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Interesting boats for sale

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Created by theselkie > 9 months ago, 21 Nov 2018
r13
NSW, 1712 posts
19 Aug 2022 9:26PM
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Yes they are from the long in business French Alubat range as per the advert and as you would be aware, and have a top shelf reputation. Rigging 2014 has 2 years to go before replacement. It is a centreboarder - what is "on the hard" got to do with it.

www.alubat.com/about-alubat/

julesmoto
NSW, 1569 posts
20 Aug 2022 5:35PM
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r13 said..
Yes they are from the long in business French Alubat range as per the advert and as you would be aware, and have a top shelf reputation. Rigging 2014 has 2 years to go before replacement. It is a centreboarder - what is "on the hard" got to do with it.

www.alubat.com/about-alubat/



Just found it interesting because I didn't know they existed before. When I see on the hard I wonder whether it has been unused for a considerable period of time and if so why.

DrogueOne
215 posts
20 Aug 2022 9:28PM
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julesmoto said

Just found it interesting because I didn't know they existed before. When I see on the hard I wonder whether it has been unused for a considerable period of time and if so why.


On of my all time favorite designs. It seems that europeans often cruise over a number of years and leave their Ovni on the hard until the next year's cruising season. Just saw this one a few days ago. You can see the centre board in the second photo and the rudder in the first. The bottom of the rudder pivots for shallow water access.




r13
NSW, 1712 posts
25 Aug 2022 8:25PM
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Cripes sorry someone just posted on this thread wondering what a yacht for sale by tender was in Perth and I responded that it was the below but i inadvertently responded to the above post not the one 5 mins ago and when I realised and deleted my post it deleted both posts so the whole lot. Great apologies. Please re-post yours again to get more responses?




Pretty sure it is a Viking 30 designed by Ben Lexcen when he was Bob Miller. Based on the legendary Gingko design - sort of cods head and mackeral tail shape but in 30' and a wider tail than Gingko relatively speaking. Apparently about 50 built. Google for numerous links. Reasonably honest yacht as far as I know.

www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1980-viking-30-8337067/

Ramona
NSW, 7722 posts
2 Sep 2022 9:00AM
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Unusually cheap Noelex 30!

www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/cowes/sail-boats/noelex-30-1982-fiberglass-yacht-9-4m/1300468977

DrogueOne
215 posts
2 Sep 2022 8:19AM
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I saw that also, I would say extremely cheap, they do seem to be a premium TS though perhaps the 25 is more desirable with a lower tow weight. I would be heading to Phillip Is to have a look at this if I was looking for a 30ft anything!

Woylie
WA, 42 posts
2 Sep 2022 7:27PM
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Sorry r13, it was me. You didn't delete my post but I took it down at the request of the person who I made it on behalf of. They decided not to pursue it in the end.

It was for this yacht on emergency mooring:
m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0Crhn39pBPLsAwFYT8wFsYRZiyi492RSB8z14Hf4gRf9Ew8bLUaf6v1C2fFprT2JCl&id=100064659760554

MorningBird
NSW, 2698 posts
3 Sep 2022 9:50AM
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Seems a good boat for $25K, or maybe less with an offer.

john24
84 posts
3 Sep 2022 1:06PM
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I don't think I have seen a more choreographed listing for a boat. Even the slips shot looks staged. www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/herreshoff-34-sloop/274641
Nice boat if you have the money to maintain it.

UncleBob
NSW, 1295 posts
3 Sep 2022 4:52PM
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I don't think I have seen a more choreographed listing for a boat. Even the slips shot looks staged. www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/herreshoff-34-sloop/274641
Nice boat if you have the money to maintain it.


Definitely presented for sale by someone that understands the concept that presentation counts, therefore sells.
Agree, nice boat but much maintenance needed to keep it so.

r13
NSW, 1712 posts
3 Sep 2022 8:34PM
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Woylie said..
Sorry r13, it was me. You didn't delete my post but I took it down at the request of the person who I made it on behalf of. They decided not to pursue it in the end.

It was for this yacht on emergency mooring:
m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0Crhn39pBPLsAwFYT8wFsYRZiyi492RSB8z14Hf4gRf9Ew8bLUaf6v1C2fFprT2JCl&id=100064659760554



Ok great thanks for letting me know I am not an IT guru and thought I mucked it up. Be interesting to know what the winning tender bid was. I bought a tender listed written off Santana 22 hull off an insurance company in the early 2000s and put a cut-down E22 mast on, J24 jib and Spider 28 cut-down main. For someone who wants to put the work in this boat should be good value assuming no structural damage just usual age based cosmetic stuff.

BeamReach
SA, 167 posts
4 Sep 2022 1:30PM
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UncleBob said..

john24 said..
I don't think I have seen a more choreographed listing for a boat. Even the slips shot looks staged. www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/herreshoff-34-sloop/274641
Nice boat if you have the money to maintain it.



Definitely presented for sale by someone that understands the concept that presentation counts, therefore sells.
Agree, nice boat but much maintenance needed to keep it so.


A nicely stocked Bar, with a range of freshly made breads, anti-pesto. cheeses and crackers !

Anyone for a Martini and laze around on the fancy cushions?

Nice, but not practical....Lol...

welsh
NSW, 87 posts
4 Sep 2022 5:19PM
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Lovely looking craft though.

MichaelR
NSW, 862 posts
5 Sep 2022 1:20PM
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UncleBob said..


john24 said..
I don't think I have seen a more choreographed listing for a boat. Even the slips shot looks staged. www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/herreshoff-34-sloop/274641
Nice boat if you have the money to maintain it.




Definitely presented for sale by someone that understands the concept that presentation counts, therefore sells.
Agree, nice boat but much maintenance needed to keep it so.



A nicely stocked Bar, with a range of freshly made breads, anti-pesto. cheeses and crackers !

Anyone for a Martini and laze around on the fancy cushions?

Nice, but not practical....Lol...


Imagine the time it would take to stow all that stuff to get under way, then the ruckus all that glass would make rattling around in even the smallest of chops in the harbour?
Negroni sir? Yes, don't mind if I do...

Ramona
NSW, 7722 posts
7 Sep 2022 7:38AM
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Seems a good boat for $25K, or maybe less with an offer.


The Nicholson is down to 22 grand this morning! That's a lot of boat for the money!

BeamReach
SA, 167 posts
7 Sep 2022 11:10AM
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Ramona said..

MorningBird said..






Seems a good boat for $25K, or maybe less with an offer.



The Nicholson is down to 22 grand this morning! That's a lot of boat for the money!


Yes...Good value, well built and maintained.

A Yanmar 30hp would push it along..

Well set up and a capable cruiser...

I wish it was in SA... Lol..
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Planeray
NSW, 216 posts
7 Sep 2022 11:56AM
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UncleBob said..

john24 said..
I don't think I have seen a more choreographed listing for a boat. Even the slips shot looks staged. www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/herreshoff-34-sloop/274641
Nice boat if you have the money to maintain it.



Definitely presented for sale by someone that understands the concept that presentation counts, therefore sells.
Agree, nice boat but much maintenance needed to keep it so.


Certainly makes a nice change from seeing someones jocks hanging round in the background!

Bushdog
SA, 312 posts
7 Sep 2022 2:36PM
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BeamReach said..

Ramona said..


MorningBird said..








Seems a good boat for $25K, or maybe less with an offer.




The Nicholson is down to 22 grand this morning! That's a lot of boat for the money!



Yes...Good value, well built and maintained.

A Yanmar 30hp would push it along..

Well set up and a capable cruiser...

I wish it was in SA... Lol..
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A lovely boat, but the teak deck looks pretty gnarly in places. That'd be a lot of work or money to fix.

BeamReach
SA, 167 posts
7 Sep 2022 6:15PM
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Bushdog said..

BeamReach said..


Ramona said..



MorningBird said..










Seems a good boat for $25K, or maybe less with an offer.





The Nicholson is down to 22 grand this morning! That's a lot of boat for the money!




Yes...Good value, well built and maintained.

A Yanmar 30hp would push it along..

Well set up and a capable cruiser...

I wish it was in SA... Lol..
..



A lovely boat, but the teak deck looks pretty gnarly in places. That'd be a lot of work or money to fix.



Yes, I did notice the timber deck and thought the same. Although an 80's Yacht next to me has a timber deck that has held up well over the years. It has a clear coat over it (not a stain} and suspended shade cloth over it, when in dock. The owner is a retired shipwright, I will have to ask him, what he has used.

Cheers

sparau
QLD, 124 posts
8 Sep 2022 12:42AM
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Is the teak only really a concern if it is screwed rather than just glued?
If the deck is glass without penetrations is a light sand, oil and sail away on the cards?

julesmoto
NSW, 1569 posts
22 Sep 2022 8:41AM
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Got to get me one of those self drainage boats like this one on Gumtree. Also also roomy 22 ft yacht as it sleeps "at least" 6!!

p3p4p5
WA, 64 posts
23 Sep 2022 8:37AM
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DrogueOne said..

julesmoto said

Just found it interesting because I didn't know they existed before. When I see on the hard I wonder whether it has been unused for a considerable period of time and if so why.



On of my all time favorite designs. It seems that europeans often cruise over a number of years and leave their Ovni on the hard until the next year's cruising season. Just saw this one a few days ago. You can see the centre board in the second photo and the rudder in the first. The bottom of the rudder pivots for shallow water access.





These Alubat boats seem very controversial. I was looking at one and the question that kept on popping up was the range of positive stability(AVS) Many of them have low numbers like 100 to 105 degree and many early designs wont even pass CE Cat A. You either believer or disbeliever in the importance of this issue. I really dont want to be sailing on a boat that wont self right or relies on the actions of the next big one to do the job for you. The Alubat company does not make the data freely available for public scrutiny which adds to the nervousness some buyers have. The Dudley Dix pilot house designs look like they have some excellent numbers and makes sense when you consider the volume of the pilot house if you can maintain its watertight integrity. I am still in the market but get buyers nerves every time I spot something decent.

julesmoto
NSW, 1569 posts
23 Sep 2022 12:57PM
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p3p4p5 said..

DrogueOne said..


julesmoto said

Just found it interesting because I didn't know they existed before. When I see on the hard I wonder whether it has been unused for a considerable period of time and if so why.




On of my all time favorite designs. It seems that europeans often cruise over a number of years and leave their Ovni on the hard until the next year's cruising season. Just saw this one a few days ago. You can see the centre board in the second photo and the rudder in the first. The bottom of the rudder pivots for shallow water access.





These Alubat boats seem very controversial. I was looking at one and the question that kept on popping up was the range of positive stability(AVS) Many of them have low numbers like 100 to 105 degree and many early designs wont even pass CE Cat A. You either believer or disbeliever in the importance of this issue. I really dont want to be sailing on a boat that wont self right or relies on the actions of the next big one to do the job for you. The Alubat company does not make the data freely available for public scrutiny which adds to the nervousness some buyers have. The Dudley Dix pilot house designs look like they have some excellent numbers and makes sense when you consider the volume of the pilot house if you can maintain its watertight integrity. I am still in the market but get buyers nerves every time I spot something decent.


That's interesting thank you. I haven't heard that

sparau
QLD, 124 posts
23 Sep 2022 4:26PM
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Re: Alubat AVS - is it just because if conditions get dodgy you pull up the board/keel so the boat slips sideways?

lydia
1920 posts
23 Sep 2022 2:48PM
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Re: Alubat AVS - is it just because if conditions get dodgy you pull up the board/keel so the boat slips sideways?


Until a wave puts you on the roof.
AVS is poorly understood.
Plenty of boats on the 120s and 130s which most people would not consider safe.

Bushdog
SA, 312 posts
25 Sep 2022 12:18PM
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Not that interested in this boat but the description is absolute truth for many a sail 'Perfect for coastal cursing'
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/columbia-34-sloop/282831

southace
SA, 4794 posts
25 Sep 2022 3:46PM
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Interesting Bluewater 40 on the market, looks as though owner fitout and possibly one of the firsts to be de-moulded. Mine is just about completely finished now once the Ronstan Dip pole is complete in November when the bearing car arrives. yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/bluewater-cruising-yachts-joe-adams-design-constructed-at-modern-yacht-tec/282712

woko
NSW, 1748 posts
25 Sep 2022 6:32PM
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South A, what's the displacement of the Bluewater 40 ?



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