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Interesting boats for sale

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Created by theselkie > 9 months ago, 21 Nov 2018
Ramona
NSW, 7722 posts
17 Mar 2020 5:29PM
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Zzzzzz said..
One for the true enthusiast if you love classic wooden vessels
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-36/216451


That sort of wooden vessel requires someone that is a little crazy about painting. Inside and out and gets off on the fumes. Not good value compared to "Tina of Melbourne" which is the sort of wooden vessel that appeals to me.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-37-timber-classic/240193

Lets hear the stories on Tina.

Zzzzzz
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17 Mar 2020 3:33PM
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Ramona said..

Zzzzzz said..
One for the true enthusiast if you love classic wooden vessels
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-36/216451



That sort of wooden vessel requires someone that is a little crazy about painting. Inside and out and gets off on the fumes. Not good value compared to "Tina of Melbourne" which is the sort of wooden vessel that appeals to me.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-37-timber-classic/240193

Lets hear the stories on Tina.


That is a gorgeous yacht , but if you don't like painting you won't like the varnish work

Chris249
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17 Mar 2020 6:41PM
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Ramona said..


Zzzzzz said..
One for the true enthusiast if you love classic wooden vessels
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-36/216451




That sort of wooden vessel requires someone that is a little crazy about painting. Inside and out and gets off on the fumes. Not good value compared to "Tina of Melbourne" which is the sort of wooden vessel that appeals to me.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-37-timber-classic/240193

Lets hear the stories on Tina.



Tina seems to be becoming sadly neglected. Her splines or caulking is showing and I think the varnish is on its way out. Strange considering how much money seems to have gone into her. She could be a wonderful buy, however.

Ramona
NSW, 7722 posts
18 Mar 2020 8:19AM
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Ramona said..





That is a gorgeous yacht , but if you don't like painting you won't like the varnish work



There is a big difference between painting a carvel planked boat above and varnishing. Varnishing attracts a different sort of nutter that will bore you to death discussing paintbrush bristles! The SS36 would require lots of brush painting single pot paint and inside amongst those frames, it would soon become a pain. "Tina" would most likely be sprayed painted in a two-pot polyurethane. No cabin windows would be to keep the varnish work good. Definitely a boat for wood enthusiasts though with the beech decks.
I won't be buying her though, does not seem to have an anchor well.

Ramona
NSW, 7722 posts
18 Mar 2020 8:41AM
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Older ad for "Tina". Note the asking price! Hope the tiller is still there.

www.boatersresources.com/bfs_detail.php?adid=488074

Zzzzzz
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18 Mar 2020 6:20AM
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Ramona said..
Older ad for "Tina". Note the asking price! Hope the tiller is still there.

www.boatersresources.com/bfs_detail.php?adid=488074


Wow that is a huge drop, I am not a fan of that small main , I wonder how much better she would go with full length boom and main ?

garymalmgren
1343 posts
18 Mar 2020 6:51AM
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All around the world (Italy, Spain, Germany, UK, the US.) there are preservation societies or woodworking schools that take on projects and apprentices.
I visited the Marine Museum in Barcelona and there were 3 or 4 projects underway in the workshop.
These recent wooden boat seen here would be perfect candidates, not too big, historic, attractive, etc.
What is happening in this area in Australia.?
Are we actually doing anything?

Volunteer groups?

Gary

EC31
NSW, 490 posts
18 Mar 2020 12:26PM
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There is a volunteer group on Lake Macquarie (Rathmines I think) that is restoring timber craft. I don't think they have the facilities for storing a 30 something foot boat, although there seems to be lots of space in the parking lot around where the hangers used to be.

Ramona
NSW, 7722 posts
18 Mar 2020 6:09PM
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Ramona said..
Older ad for "Tina". Note the asking price! Hope the tiller is still there.

www.boatersresources.com/bfs_detail.php?adid=488074



Wow that is a huge drop, I am not a fan of that small main , I wonder how much better she would go with full length boom and main ?


Tina was built to the One ton rule. At the time the rule encouraged headsail driven yachts. This is an early one tonner and the mainsail is quite moderate. Later they got to be more extreme. I certainly would not change her sail plan.

www.histoiredeshalfs.com/One%20Tonner/Tina%20Stephens.htm

r13
NSW, 1712 posts
18 Mar 2020 6:13PM
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Gary - see here and other state groups under the wba banner............heaps of activity going on...................

www.wbansw.asn.au/

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
18 Mar 2020 6:22PM
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garymalmgren said..
All around the world (Italy, Spain, Germany, UK, the US.) there are preservation societies or woodworking schools that take on projects and apprentices.
I visited the Marine Museum in Barcelona and there were 3 or 4 projects underway in the workshop.
These recent wooden boat seen here would be perfect candidates, not too big, historic, attractive, etc.
What is happening in this area in Australia.?
Are we actually doing anything?

Volunteer groups?

Gary


Hi Gary

Both the wooden boat centre www.woodenboatcentre.com and the living boat trust lbt.rforster.org at Franklin here in Tassie are doing courses and new build & restoration work on wooden boats

Regards Don

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
18 Mar 2020 7:15PM
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Ramona said..
Older ad for "Tina". Note the asking price! Hope the tiller is still there.

www.boatersresources.com/bfs_detail.php?adid=488074


note the ropeolene hull construction !! I dont think i have ever seen that in a larger type hull before ?

r13
NSW, 1712 posts
18 Mar 2020 9:24PM
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To make the discussion factual the spelling in the boatersresources advert was Roplene................which I have never heard of before assume most others would not have either............see roplene here..........

www.thehulltruth.com/boating-forum/449892-roplene.html

Suggest the boatersresources advert be shelved and Tina be viewed on its merits as it is - being a classic timber yacht of good pedigree, requiring a suitable refurbishment by an enthusiast including local recaulking as needed.......................

Ramona
NSW, 7722 posts
19 Mar 2020 8:04AM
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r13 said..
To make the discussion factual the spelling in the boatersresources advert was Roplene................which I have never heard of before assume most others would not have either............see roplene here..........

www.thehulltruth.com/boating-forum/449892-roplene.html

Suggest the boatersresources advert be shelved and Tina be viewed on its merits as it is - being a classic timber yacht of good pedigree, requiring a suitable refurbishment by an enthusiast including local recaulking as needed.......................


There are differences in the ads. One has the decks as beech, the other teak. I was under the impression the planks were splined so from what we have been told there may be some remedial work required with the splines in places. And yes it's a boat that needs to be viewed and assessed close up. We all know the dangers of looking at a yacht like this! This is the only other boat built to this design and this one has mahogany planks.



Sunmaid V has the original tiller

Zzzzzz
513 posts
19 Mar 2020 8:42AM
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here we go the avalanche of sales has started incredible value
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/lane-cove/sail-boats/spacesailer-24-mooring-minder/1243963843

UncleBob
NSW, 1295 posts
19 Mar 2020 3:27PM
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here we go the avalanche of sales has started incredible value
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/lane-cove/sail-boats/spacesailer-24-mooring-minder/1243963843


Looks more like taking out the rubbish to me.

Ramona
NSW, 7722 posts
19 Mar 2020 6:04PM
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here we go the avalanche of sales has started incredible value
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/lane-cove/sail-boats/spacesailer-24-mooring-minder/1243963843


That is a good buy, especially if the outboard and mooring go with it.

It's not a Spencer though, these are part of the Swarbrick stable. Very popular in WA.

Yara
NSW, 1308 posts
19 Mar 2020 8:10PM
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Ramona said..

Zzzzzz said..
here we go the avalanche of sales has started incredible value
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/lane-cove/sail-boats/spacesailer-24-mooring-minder/1243963843



That is a good buy, especially if the outboard and mooring go with it.

It's not a Spencer though, these are part of the Swarbrick stable. Very popular in WA.


This one has had a lightning strike so may need a re-rig.

r13
NSW, 1712 posts
19 Mar 2020 9:22PM
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Not trying to micromanage or control freak anything but just wondered about putting on line that a yacht for sale has had "a lightning strike so may need a re-rig".............I am fully aware that numerous yachts since the start of time have been sold with "issues" which the buyer wasn't aware of, and the seller should have advised them of..............but didn't...........nevertheless is it cricket to go on line and trumpet such an occurrence? I suggest not but am not posting this in order to try and get a plurality of legal responses from anyone..............just wanting to make the point to the so many enthusiastic and knowledgeable persons on this forum that posting this type of comment imho is not kosher in any way shape or form. Perhaps the forum moderator can comment.

Specific inquiries...........for sure if you have factual knowledge of a particular class of yacht, and their strengths and weaknesses, please by all means respond to a specific inquiry - hundreds of inquiries have come in to the forum from prospective buyers in this manner, and the feed back responses obviously have been excellent and usefully guided the potential buyer.

I have nothing to do with the yacht in question, and have no knowledge of it or interest in it.

Jolene
WA, 1618 posts
19 Mar 2020 8:16PM
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Zzzzzz said..
here we go the avalanche of sales has started incredible value
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/lane-cove/sail-boats/spacesailer-24-mooring-minder/1243963843




Looks more like taking out the rubbish to me.




Yeah , the topic of this thread is "interesting boats for sale" not " boats for sale"

simmrr
WA, 194 posts
19 Mar 2020 9:58PM
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Probably good to start a cheap boats Ive seen for sale thread...defining cheap is going to be the hard part....

Yara
NSW, 1308 posts
20 Mar 2020 9:12AM
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Ramona said..



Zzzzzz said..
here we go the avalanche of sales has started incredible value
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/lane-cove/sail-boats/spacesailer-24-mooring-minder/1243963843





That is a good buy, especially if the outboard and mooring go with it.

It's not a Spencer though, these are part of the Swarbrick stable. Very popular in WA.




This one has had a lightning strike so may need a re-rig.



I am reporting what the seller told me. Cant see an ethical issue in that.

r13
NSW, 1712 posts
20 Mar 2020 6:28PM
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Ok I'll pull my head in............but did he reasonably expect you to put that information on line or thought he was having a private one on one conversation with a mate.

Yara
NSW, 1308 posts
20 Mar 2020 7:42PM
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Ok I'll pull my head in............but did he reasonably expect you to put that information on line or thought he was having a private one on one conversation with a mate.


Actually I got the feeling he was doing his best to explain why the boat was so cheap. That was also what I thought I was doing with my post.

r13
NSW, 1712 posts
20 Mar 2020 9:40PM
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ok

Chris 249
NSW, 3514 posts
21 Mar 2020 8:28PM
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Wow, a plank-on-edge by Burgess. Historically interesting, to be sure.

All@Sea
TAS, 233 posts
22 Mar 2020 8:11AM
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I have hardly seen this boat move further than the slip from its mooring in the last 30 years... www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/opossum-bay/sail-boats/for-sale-40ft-yacht-alathea-/1244092802



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