Select to expand quotegs12 said..Subsonic said..
We're not in lockdown loto.
yes we are, we just have a really big excercise yard and can't get out
You can go where ever you want so far as wa restrictions are concerned. you'll struggle to get back though.
That's not a lockdown.
Select to expand quoteSubsonic said..gs12 said..Subsonic said..
We're not in lockdown loto.
yes we are, we just have a really big excercise yard and can't get out
You can go where ever you want so far as wa restrictions are concerned. you'll struggle to get back though.
That's not a lockdown.
that's as useful as ventilated condom
Select to expand quoteCH3MTR4IL5 said..
7 days at home if you come back in.
so I guess the official govt website is wrong?
www.wa.gov.au/government/covid-19-coronavirus/covid-19-coronavirus-interstate-travel
www.wa.gov.au/government/covid-19-coronavirus/covid-19-coronavirus-international-travel
while I'm triple vaccinated and definitely think that is the right thing to do by everyone, I don't see why I need to be approved and to come back and then undergo 2 week isolation, which by the way applies to everyone in the same household, even if they did not travel.
so yeah, life is tough 'cause this is actually pretty farked up situation in my view but hey I was not born here so maybe I have a different perspective on things like that
Select to expand quotelotofwind said.. yeah your locked in the desert, no family or friends can visit.
WA has always been the nanny state of australia.......... now its the nanny state of the world.
McClown at his finest
Thank god you don't like WA.
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..Harrow said..
Does he really believe he can avoid the inevitable? There's only one way this is going to go. I remember when the NSW graph looked pretty similar to this.
Get ready to witness the practical implication of the word 'exponential'.
I think from a political point, he would be screwed if he had just opened the floodgates on the 5th. Now, even if the same thing happened, it is not a political problem. It also gives the systems here a bit more time to ramp up. I think having the starting base lower will help.
Despite the vocal ones that insist the border should be open already, there are plenty that are happier with them closed. At the point cases here are high, it won't matter anyway and we can all be equal... unless NSW and Vic lock out WA 
Agree there was political motive here. Plus let us not forget NSW was right in the middle of their exponential omicron curve. Time will tell all including if the ludicrous mask wearing pantomime is as comical as I see it.
Select to expand quotegs12 said..CH3MTR4IL5 said..
7 days at home if you come back in.
so I guess the official govt website is wrong?
www.wa.gov.au/government/covid-19-coronavirus/covid-19-coronavirus-interstate-travel
www.wa.gov.au/government/covid-19-coronavirus/covid-19-coronavirus-international-travel
while I'm triple vaccinated and definitely think that is the right thing to do by everyone, I don't see why I need to be approved and to come back and then undergo 2 week isolation, which by the way applies to everyone in the same household, even if they did not travel.
so yeah, life is tough 'cause this is actually pretty farked up situation in my view but hey I was not born here so maybe I have a different perspective on things like that
I agree, now we're all vaccinated, the more the virus spreads, the more pointless and stupid mandates and restrictions become. But saying we're in a lockdown in WA is an insult to people living in other states where their "leaders" did half assed lock downs, then subsequently did ridiculously strict and long lockdowns when they realised their f?ck up.
not being able to travel is a first world problem.
Select to expand quoteMark _australia said..
Thank god you don't like WA.
Waaay too many rules, restrictions and red neck bogans 
Oh, and now McClown lockdowns when the rest of the worlds open??
Select to expand quotegs12 said..CH3MTR4IL5 said..
7 days at home if you come back in.
so I guess the official govt website is wrong?
www.wa.gov.au/government/covid-19-coronavirus/covid-19-coronavirus-interstate-travel
www.wa.gov.au/government/covid-19-coronavirus/covid-19-coronavirus-international-travel
while I'm triple vaccinated and definitely think that is the right thing to do by everyone, I don't see why I need to be approved and to come back and then undergo 2 week isolation, which by the way applies to everyone in the same household, even if they did not travel.
so yeah, life is tough 'cause this is actually pretty farked up situation in my view but hey I was not born here so maybe I have a different perspective on things like that
Quote your link
There are new quarantine requirements for approved travellers into WA. Travellers can self-isolate at a suitable premises for a reduced period of 7 days
.and your family doesnt have to quarantine.
If you live in shared accommodation, those who usually reside in the suitable premises can still live with you. They can continue their daily activities as normal. They must not enter your allocated bedroom and you must not enter a bathroom or common area while they are present.
not born here either but pretty happy to have spent my time here rather than home state of vic.
Select to expand quoteCH3MTR4IL5 said..
.and your family doesnt have to quarantine.
If you live in shared accommodation, those who usually reside in the suitable premises can still live with you. They can continue their daily activities as normal. They must not enter your allocated bedroom and you must not enter a bathroom or common area while they are present.
not born here either but pretty happy to have spent my time here rather than home state of vic.
So how many kitchens you have at home sir?
Cant even walk the corridor? What if you dont have an ensuite in the bedroom and a maid service to slide food under the door?
Lock the family up
Actually its a good thing...helps spread this farce faster.
Select to expand quotelotofwind said..Mark _australia said..
Thank god you don't like WA.
Waaay too many rules, restrictions and red neck bogans
Oh, and now McClown lockdowns when the rest of the worlds open??
Again what lockdowns ? Interstate travel restrictions are different to lockdowns. Then again it's like talking to a lot of teenagers I teach - they hold onto certain lines of arguments that have no rational basis. WA has the same stratification of certain "personality"types as anywhere else also. NSW just has far more rats in the cage.
International pre approved arrivals doubled from 250 to 500 pp per week...WOW
Looks like pretty much closed to me
Select to expand quoteSubsonic said..
You can go where ever you want so far as wa restrictions are concerned. you'll struggle to get back though.
That's not a lockdown.
But only because nowhere else has the same requirements. If every other state matched WA then very few could go anywhere.
It is only not a lockdown if you only see it from inside the particular sized box you are locked in. Make the box bigger and it is a lockdown. Would you argue its not a lockdown if you can go from the bedroom to the living room to the garden, and only a lockdown if you are confined to a single room ?
Australia had the fortunate benefit of being 6 months behind many other parts of the world with this.
WA had the very fortunate benefit of being able to sit 12 to 18 months behind everywhere else. But the notion WA can do this forever is absurd.
And from that fortunate benefit McGowan appears to have learnt nothing from anyone else. As others have said above, things like :
What idiot decided I have to be double vaxxed to go thru a drive thru bottleshop - but don't have to be vaxxed to queue up with hordes at Subway - but if dining in at Subway, even as the sole dine-in customer I have to be double vaxxed?
... but it's okay to cram 32 kids and a teacher in a 7x7 classroom oh and the year 12 ball is going ahead. there is little rhyme and reason to any of it. Absolute non sensical rubbish that changes from day to day mind you.
And then things like the ever changing quarantine period, flipping international students requirements three time in 5 days..
Do you think WA is the first to bumble these exact issues ?
Having no idea what to do when you have numerous other people in front of you showing you exactly what to do and what not to do seems like nothing but incompetence to me.
I still fail to see how 5th Feb was a bad day to open the borders. No day will ever be perfect. But I have no idea how any other day will be better than 5th Feb. Lots of reasons why other days will be worse, but any why they will be better ?
Perhaps we could see the reasoning and advice behind the decision to pick another (as yet unknown) day rather than 5th Feb ?
Oh, yeah that's right it's secret.... Not allowed to see it, just have to blindly have faith in irrational decisions made by somebody who displays nothing but the air of incompetence. Maybe that swings for some people, but meehhh, not so sure myself.
Select to expand quoteCH3MTR4IL5 said..
.and your family doesnt have to quarantine.
If you live in shared accommodation, those who usually reside in the suitable premises can still live with you. They can continue their daily activities as normal. They must not enter your allocated bedroom and you must not enter a bathroom or common area while they are present.
not born here either but pretty happy to have spent my time here rather than home state of vic.
When did that come in?
Any links to support?
Select to expand quoteCarantoc said..
And from that fortunate benefit McGowan appears to have learnt nothing from anyone else. As others have said above, things like :
What idiot decided I have to be double vaxxed to go thru a drive thru bottleshop - but don't have to be vaxxed to queue up with hordes at Subway - but if dining in at Subway, even as the sole dine-in customer I have to be double vaxxed?
I think they are doing this to encourage the drinkers to also get vaxxed. Food? Anyone can get by without food, but beer... no way!
I got asked for my vaccination certificate for the first time yesterday in a bottleshop. I can imagine that there are a few people buying grog for others right now, but for some it would probably give them a bit of an incentive.
For those who are here still supporting McGowan's lockdown (or not criticizing it) could you inform us when you believe it should be removed ?
Not a date, but under what circumstances ?
If you answer something like "When WA has as more daily cases reported than any other state / territory", then that isn't a solution.
That is just an illogical reason to extend the pain until you get to the inevitable and have exactly the same outcome, just with a much longer period of pain before it.
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..
I think they are doing this to encourage the drinkers to also get vaxxed. Food? Anyone can get by without food, but beer... no way!
I got asked for my vaccination certificate for the first time yesterday in a bottleshop. I can imagine that there are a few people buying grog for others right now, but for some it would probably give them a bit of an incentive.
So 11 1/2 months after the vax program to combat Delta began the WA authorities have worked out they need to encourage people to get vaxxed (with something that is now much less effective against Omicron) ?
94% of West Australians are double vaxxed, according to WA Government.
And 100% had the opportunity to be.
What are you waiting for ? Magical unicorn **** to bless you with immortality ?
Look at the incompetence of the MSM. Headline this morning :
WA sits idle as Tassie makes bid for Comm Games
thewest.com.au/news/wa/commonwealth-games-mark-mcgowan-urged-to-reconsider-call-not-to-nominate-as-host-city--c-5648681
Don't they realize WA is currently preparing its bid for the 2004 games ?
Select to expand quotegoofy said..CH3MTR4IL5 said..
.and your family doesnt have to quarantine.
If you live in shared accommodation, those who usually reside in the suitable premises can still live with you. They can continue their daily activities as normal. They must not enter your allocated bedroom and you must not enter a bathroom or common area while they are present.
not born here either but pretty happy to have spent my time here rather than home state of vic.
When did that come in?
Any links to support?
www.healthywa.wa.gov.au/Articles/A_E/Coronavirus/Quarantine-and-isolation
Select to expand quoteCH3MTR4IL5 said..goofy said..CH3MTR4IL5 said..
.and your family doesnt have to quarantine.
If you live in shared accommodation, those who usually reside in the suitable premises can still live with you. They can continue their daily activities as normal. They must not enter your allocated bedroom and you must not enter a bathroom or common area while they are present.
not born here either but pretty happy to have spent my time here rather than home state of vic.
When did that come in?
Any links to support?
www.healthywa.wa.gov.au/Articles/A_E/Coronavirus/Quarantine-and-isolation
Looks like that's the old restrictions.
If you click on the link at the top of that page (the one stating "new testing and iso requirement from 8 Feb") it goes to the wa covid site which does shows 7day iso for all household members.
Been watching that situation for while as my missus will going east soon and we've had to arrange somewhere for her to isolate so I can still work.
I believe that's only for close contacts of cases, if you're isolating but not a positive case then the household members aren't restricted.
they sure don't make it clear though- new directions are on the wa.gov site haven't waded through them, but i dug deep on it last week as i'm off overseas in couple of weeks.
Certainly alot of info to wade through, this is the link I was looking at
www.wa.gov.au/government/publications/covid-19-coronavirus-was-new-hard-border-settings#self-quarantine
If you've got a granny flat your ok.
Select to expand quoteCarantoc said..FormulaNova said..
I think they are doing this to encourage the drinkers to also get vaxxed. Food? Anyone can get by without food, but beer... no way!
I got asked for my vaccination certificate for the first time yesterday in a bottleshop. I can imagine that there are a few people buying grog for others right now, but for some it would probably give them a bit of an incentive.
So 11 1/2 months after the vax program to combat Delta began the WA authorities have worked out they need to encourage people to get vaxxed (with something that is now much less effective against Omicron) ?
94% of West Australians are double vaxxed, according to WA Government.
And 100% had the opportunity to be.
What are you waiting for ? Magical unicorn **** to bless you with immortality ?
Well, NSW seemed to need actual infections to encourage people to get vaxxed. That's what I saw. The reluctant waited until they saw lots of people around them get Covid before they pulled their fingers out and ignored the rubbish on facebook and went for the jab. Till then lots of people seemed to think it didn't apply to them.
What makes you think WA is any different? It will be the same minority that are reluctant.
Making a restriction like this affect their social life is going to encourage a few.
I don't even understand why anyone outside of WA cares. Its not like that many people visit.
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..
What makes you think WA is any different? ..
It isn't different, that's my whole point. No different to anywhere else, So why is it acting differently ?
Don't you recall that national cabinet meeting that agreed that at 90% double vaxed then no more restrictions. At 80% double vaxed no more state borders, no more lockdowns etc. It was the national plan. 90% in that state and 80% nationally was the trigger.
Gotta be honest I didn't believe them when they said it, I didn't believe they would stick to it. I got jabbed in the main to prove they were liars and that they wouldn't stick to that plan when 80% / 90% got jabbed.
But - quite amazingly they did.
NSW did (not much surprise, I figured the most likely). two weeks before reaching the milestones they forecast forward and set the dates. Stuck to the plan 99.9%.
Very soon after Vic stuck to the plan and pretty well aligned NSW and Vic - good on Dan, he certainly had an about turn from absolute zero and abusing everyone else to living with it at 90% vaxxed and trying to get everyone aligned.
SA stuck to the plan. They appeared to look forward a bit further than others and experimented with home quarantine before anyone else was talking about it.
Hell, even Qld eventually came around. It took them a while after reaching the milestones to reluctantly forget about their Premier's statement that the policies would be set so that nobody (or maybe it was no child ?) would ever die in Qld from covid, ever. It was a slow two steps forward, one step back for them but they got there.
Yet WA is still holding out. Ignoring the plan. Doing nothing but delaying the inevitable for no benefit. Not having another plan, just ignore the plan everyone agreed on.
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..
I don't even understand why anyone outside of WA cares
'cause it affects my ability to work and is against the principals of the federation.
With that attitude one might as well say 'why does any bloke care if women generally earn less for the same job, not like they are women', or why care about racial abuse if I am never the victim of it. Why do I care about mental health if I am healthy. Why care about paying my taxes if they go somewhere else. Why do I care about anyone or anything but me.
Society is a complex thing FN. You think it doesn't affect you but a small butterfly flaps its wings far away and .....
Besides, if you don't care either way then why would you chose the side which is most restrictive to everyone else ?
And if you think WA will never get much above 90% (fully!! what a joke) vaxxed then how can you support a delayed opening until more people are (fully!!!!) vaxxed ?
What conditions do you think will be in place when the border opens that weren't in place on 5th Feb ??
I'm suggesting whatever they are they won't have a net beneficial position over those there were in place on 5th Feb.
Winter, flu season, school holidays, new variant, tourism operators gone broke, hospitals understaffed with no new recruits versus state election over for another 3 years.
Select to expand quoteCarantoc said..
What conditions do you think will be in place when the border opens that weren't in place on 5th Feb ??
I'm suggesting whatever they are they won't have a net beneficial position over those there were in place on 5th Feb.
I am only replying as I feel you need someone to rail against. You could just state your opinions, but you need an adversary it seems.
No! Keep the borders closed! Down with the rest of the federation!
I don't think there is any good reason not to open up, but personally pretty happy with another few weeks to enjoy summer and kids to settle in to a new school.
personally, the decision to extend i think it has nothing to do with vax levels etc etc, more govt fear that the health system is going to fall over.
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..
I am only replying as I feel you need someone to rail against. ..
Thankyou very much.
Your selfless benevolence is duly appreciated.
- and smart as well. You managed to admit you actually agree with my argument and accept that your previous stance of blind support of the ineptitude was incorrect, without having to admit you stood corrected. Very clever. Dunno where you learnt that from.
