I was thinking... what if the mRNA vax makes your cells produce prions 3-4 years after vaccination and 40% of Australia dies?
www.deagel.com/forecast has our population falling by 40% in the next 5 years and every country where mRNA vaccines are being deployed falling by 25-70% (read the disclaimer). It took years for people to develop spongiform encephalopathy symptoms after consuming bovine spongiform encephalopathy tainted products.
Cases worldwide are still going up even decades after banning the practice of feeding the dead to the living www.cdc.gov/prions/cjd/occurrence-transmission.html www.cjd.ed.ac.uk/sites/default/files/figs.pdf (Just deaths not disablement).
Btw if you didn't watch the 2013 mini series Utopia (www.imdb.com/title/tt2384811/) I suggest you do so, for its excellent presentation... way better than the hollywood nonsense, they actually have individual characters.
Flysurfer, I'd be much more concerned about the larger quantities of self-replicating mRNA in the virus itself
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Flysurfer, I'd be much more concerned about the larger quantities of self-replicating mRNA in the virus itself
But the virus, while concerning, has only infected a minute part of the population and is replicating a virus and not a protein which could be used as a building block elsewhere. Any malformation of the spike protein would result in a prion and what are the consequence of this... I'm just posing the question I have no idea, it was just something that crossed my mind which made me think of CJD.
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Flysurfer, I'd be much more concerned about the larger quantities of self-replicating mRNA in the virus itself
But the virus, while concerning, has only infected a minute part of the population and is replicating a virus and not a protein which could be used as a building block elsewhere. Any malformation of the spike protein would result in a prion and what are the consequence of this... I'm just posing the question I have no idea, it was just something that crossed my mind which made me think of CJD.
I'm not an expert on protein chemistry, and neither are you, I expect, but I do know that there are way beyond trillions of possible proteins that can be built from 20 amino acids. For a protein dimer, 20 X 20 =400 possibilities. A trimer would be 8 000. A qute small chain of 100 amino acid units would be 2 to the power 100, which is more than 1M times a googol.
Why would you think it likely that the spike protein would acquire the necessary changes to become a very rare prion disease protein?
After being forced to have the vaccine I wouldn't worry about dying from Mad Cow Disease.
I mean the HIV/ Aids it also causes you will get you first.
I also heard they have now modified the secret military grade nano-chip technology in the vaccine so that it turns 98% of recipients gay.
I am still doing some research on reddit and facebook to find out if that means 98% of people turn fully gay or if each person becomes 98% gay. I'll get back to you with the confirmed results.
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I also heard they have now modified the secret military grade nano-chip technology in the vaccine so that it turns 98% of recipients gay.
I am still doing some research on reddit and facebook to find out if that means 98% of people turn fully gay or if each person becomes 98% gay. I'll get back to you with the confirmed results.
No only 88%
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I also heard they have now modified the secret military grade nano-chip technology in the vaccine so that it turns 98% of recipients gay.
I am still doing some research on reddit and facebook to find out if that means 98% of people turn fully gay or if each person becomes 98% gay. I'll get back to you with the confirmed results.
No only 88%
He should take a leaf out of the PM's book and just say its someone else's problem.
A coordinated national approach to quarantine? A central facility for returned travelers? You must be barking mad, that's something the states need to worry about. I am just here for the next election.
Roll out of the Aussie AstraZeneca vaccine halted as it is only 10% effective against the new South African strain. Not good.
www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-08/south-africa-will-suspend-use-of-the-astrazeneca-vaccine/13131142
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Roll out of the Aussie AstraZeneca vaccine halted as it is only 10% effective against the new South African strain. Not good.
www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-08/south-africa-will-suspend-use-of-the-astrazeneca-vaccine/13131142
Where did you get that number from? I can't find it in those articles.
To me, it still sounds like its up in the air in that they don't really know what its effectiveness is against severe forms of the disease in older/more susceptible patients.
"However, we have not been able to properly ascertain its effect against severe disease and hospitalisation given that subjects were predominantly young healthy adults"
Dr at work was discussing it and said 10%.
I just assumed it was in the article because people at the meeting were talking about the news and all seemed in agreeance when it was said.
Hi FN,
I did a quick google search and the Australian has an article but I can't open it as I'm not a subscriber but you can see the screenshot below states 10%.
Big kick in the teeth to all that worked so hard to get it across the line. Fingers crossed ??
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Hi FN,
I did a quick google search and the Australian has an article but I can't open it as I'm not a subscriber but you can see the screenshot below states 10%.
Big kick in the teeth to all that worked so hard to get it across the line. Fingers crossed ??
I've seen that too, but stopped reading when I got to "a very small study"....
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Dr at work was discussing it and said 10%.
I just assumed it was in the article because people at the meeting were talking about the news and all seemed in agreeance when it was said.
Yeah, it could be an interesting journey. Make a vaccine that specifically targets a particular variant, and then another variant comes along. I guess the longer the virus circulates in the community, the more chance it has to establish a new variant.
Just wondering to myself, can a person have multiple variants of the same virus? Do people naturally become immune to one if they have the other? I guess we will find out in full time.
If Flysurfer's site is correct, I should be selling my house and be ready to buy it back cheaper when I am one of the 40% left 
If I am not, who cares!
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....If Flysurfer's site is correct...
yeah right.... and If the moon is made of cheese. and If bears don't **** in the woods. and If the Pope isn't Catholic. and If.... If the world is fla......
oh wait....
.....Hey FN - Do you know any good real estate agents ???
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....If Flysurfer's site is correct...
yeah right.... and If the moon is made of cheese. and If bears don't **** in the woods. and If the Pope isn't Catholic. and If.... If the world is fla......
oh wait....
.....Hey FN - Do you know any good real estate agents ???
No mate Carantoc, I don't use real estate agents anymore. I was really talking about selling my spot under the bridge where I doss down each night with my cache of silver. I will prevail!
Silver will be what everyone wants to eat once we are dead from Covid.
You can't pull the wool over my eyes Comrade FormulaNova, of the Nova Corp. I know your game.
References to bridges and silver, umpph - thinking us great mass of unwashed plebs don't know your game.
Lucky these forums have people who are of superior intellect on them. For the sheeple that don't know :
The Silver Bridge was a giant structure that famously collapsed under its own weight, into its own footprint due to displacement of a crack only 2mm long. Yeah right. As if. When has that sort of thing ever happened ?
And it was covered in aluminium ! - Can it be more obvious ? If only an architect had done the engineering it would still be standing today.
Sounds to me like the covid19 jab is like the flu jab. It needs to be modified each year to be up to date with the latest mutation of the virus. This probably means by the time Australia finally gets a supply of AstraZeneca vaccine it will be useless against the new versions of the virus.
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You can't pull the wool over my eyes Comrade FormulaNova, of the Nova Corp. I know your game.
References to bridges and silver, umpph - thinking us great mass of unwashed plebs don't know your game.
Lucky these forums have people who are of superior intellect on them. For the sheeple that don't know :
The Silver Bridge was a giant structure that famously collapsed under its own weight, into its own footprint due to displacement of a crack only 2mm long. Yeah right. As if. When has that sort of thing ever happened ?
And it was covered in aluminium ! - Can it be more obvious ? If only an architect had done the engineering it would still be standing today.
Yes, its true. I intend to wait for 40% of the population to go and then I am going to buy up! Properties will be so cheap that I can have one for each of my Elgrands. This is my way to achieve world domination, one house and pandemic at a time.
Architects? What happens to those guys? Do they just draw themselves into a corner they can't get out of and they forget to connect to the NBN so cannot talk to others?
You may be onto my other scheme. While sheeple are looking at buying up silver, I am investing heavily in aluminium. Much lighter than silver, it's more useful and I have a good supply.
Back to vaccines, it could be a moving target. I am intrigued by the Astrazeneca vaccine suggestion that it doesn't help mild cases, inferring that it does or may help serious cases. Is that correct or just that they have only tested it on mild cases? A vaccine that only helps bad cases sounds sort of okay, and at least better than no vaccine.
I received a shipment of 200 Ivermectin tablets on Friday.
I do know that it works and I also know that the medicine is safer than aspirin.
I'll give the vaccine a miss.
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I received a shipment of 200 Ivermectin tablets on Friday.
I do know that it works and I also know that the medicine is safer than aspirin.
I'll give the vaccine a miss.
No fleas on you!
Flysurfer, I imagine the chances of your cells producing a proteinaceous infective particle or prion instead of the covid 19 spike protein would be much the same as when you make pretty much any other protein
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I received a shipment of 200 Ivermectin tablets on Friday.
I do know that it works and I also know that the medicine is safer than aspirin.
I'll give the vaccine a miss.
Sooo....
How many of those 200 are you going to take ? and at what intervals ?
Do you think they will :
a) stop you catching covid
b) stop you transmitting covid to others
c) stop the symptoms of covid occurring if you catch it
d) some combination of a), b) and c)
or e) who cares, if I take enough of them with some e) I am hoping everything will be all happy and trippy
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I received a shipment of 200 Ivermectin tablets on Friday.
I do know that it works and I also know that the medicine is safer than aspirin.
I'll give the vaccine a miss.
Sooo....
How many of those 200 are you going to take ? and at what intervals ?
Do you think they will :
a) stop you catching covid
b) stop you transmitting covid to others
c) stop the symptoms of covid occurring if you catch it
d) some combination of a), b) and c)
or e) who cares, if I take enough of them with some e) I am hoping everything will be all happy and trippy
I've given a third of them away to friends who've caught the fear bug.
I won't take any unless I get crook.
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I received a shipment of 200 Ivermectin tablets on Friday.
I do know that it works and I also know that the medicine is safer than aspirin.
I'll give the vaccine a miss.
No fleas on you!
Don't laugh! I took some veterinary grade a while back and a patch of skin on my forehead diagnosed by the skin cancer clinician as Solar Keratosis,(whatever that means), disappeared. Have to assume it was parasitic. I'm rapt! No burning off!
Select to expand quotejapie said..FormulaNova said..japie said..
I received a shipment of 200 Ivermectin tablets on Friday.
I do know that it works and I also know that the medicine is safer than aspirin.
I'll give the vaccine a miss.
No fleas on you!
Don't laugh! I took some veterinary grade a while back and a patch of skin on my forehead diagnosed by the skin cancer clinician as Solar Keratosis,(whatever that means), disappeared. Have to assume it was parasitic. I'm rapt! No burning off!
Interesting. I wonder how many things are affected by this medicine?
Apparently we have a huge number of organisms living on our body. Some good, some bad.
I guess until someone notices these effects there will not be a study on them to see if there is any other benefits.
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Isn't ivermectin suggested as a prophylaxis?
It is. According to the trials thoroughly effective. Works all through the stages of disease progression.
800 health workers in Argentina dosed and 200 not. Of the 800 zero infection. 57 % of the un-dosed got the disease.
It is a fascinating medicine. Derived from bacteria found in a soil sample next to a gold course in Japan.
It has literally been taken by billions worldwide to combat tropical parasites and viruses including dengue. Wish I'd known about it last year when I had Ross River!
The mechanisms that ivermectin employs are explained by the doctor in this video lecture:
Select to expand quotejapie said..FormulaNova said..
Isn't ivermectin suggested as a prophylaxis?
It is. According to the trials thoroughly effective. Works all through the stages of disease progression.
800 health workers in Argentina dosed and 200 not. Of the 800 zero infection. 57 % of the un-dosed got the disease.
It is a fascinating medicine. Derived from bacteria found in a soil sample next to a gold course in Japan.
It has literally been taken by billions worldwide to combat tropical parasites and viruses including dengue. Wish I'd known about it last year when I had Ross River!
The mechanisms that ivermectin employs are explained by the doctor in this video lecture:
And it's off patent so cheap as chips!
