I guess it is the same old story, "How do you tell someone is an antivaxer, don't worry, they will tell you"
Select to expand quotehashbrown said..
Singing we are the 99 percent 
The same protest over here would have centrelink empty. What is the equivalent of centrelink over there Peter?
Select to expand quotehashbrown said..
Singing we are the 99 percent
...and this is why they are dropping like flies.
There is being ****ing stupid and then there is being a patriot.
There will be blue skies when the chemtrails are all gone
Id rather be a human than a slave
My turn.
there's being a patriot then there's painting your face & wearing horns not realising you are reenacting a Simpsons episode thus turning Matt Groening into Nostradamus.
Who's next?
im getting my popcorn ready to see what some of the gun wielding right wing christian hillbilly militia groups think they are going to do in the USA in the next few days. There are some stupid people in that group.
www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/berejiklian-vaccination-incentive-could-cause-economic-carnage/ar-BB1cR3uR?ocid=msedgntp
"Clearly opportunities to travel overseas or opportunities to enter certain workplaces or venues might be enhanced if you have the vaccine," she said.
Mr Latham said such an approach does "not accord with the national policy" of voluntary vaccination, and could result in millions of the state's citizens being banned from certain venues.
"Gladys Berejiklian is potentially banning hundreds of thousands maybe millions of people in New South Wales from going to the pub, the club, restaurants, cafes; the list will go on," he said.
"The economic carnage on those venues will be huge. Does anyone in that government think through the economic consequences of what they say? Gladys ought to drop that line immediately."
Select to expand quotePoida said..
im getting my popcorn ready to see what some of the gun wielding right wing christian hillbilly militia groups think they are going to do in the USA in the next few days. There are some stupid people in that group.
I think Trump has lathered them all up into a belief that they are the majority and somehow they were cheated out of the election. The people that voted against Trump are probably sitting there shocked that the Trump supporters believe this, but as you said, there are some stupid people in that group.
Trump has to be the number 1 sore loser. Its good to have confidence in yourself, but when you lose why try and take the country down with you?
Select to expand quotehashbrown said..
www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/berejiklian-vaccination-incentive-could-cause-economic-carnage/ar-BB1cR3uR?ocid=msedgntp
"Clearly opportunities to travel overseas or opportunities to enter certain workplaces or venues might be enhanced if you have the vaccine," she said.
Mr Latham said such an approach does "not accord with the national policy" of voluntary vaccination, and could result in millions of the state's citizens being banned from certain venues.
"Gladys Berejiklian is potentially banning hundreds of thousands maybe millions of people in New South Wales from going to the pub, the club, restaurants, cafes; the list will go on," he said.
"The economic carnage on those venues will be huge. Does anyone in that government think through the economic consequences of what they say? Gladys ought to drop that line immediately."
This makes no sense if it only stops you from getting it, but not from spreading it. You'll be a greater danger to the public if you've had the jab since you won't feel sick if you are carrying it.
Select to expand quoteHarrow said..hashbrown said..
www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/berejiklian-vaccination-incentive-could-cause-economic-carnage/ar-BB1cR3uR?ocid=msedgntp
"Clearly opportunities to travel overseas or opportunities to enter certain workplaces or venues might be enhanced if you have the vaccine," she said.
Mr Latham said such an approach does "not accord with the national policy" of voluntary vaccination, and could result in millions of the state's citizens being banned from certain venues.
"Gladys Berejiklian is potentially banning hundreds of thousands maybe millions of people in New South Wales from going to the pub, the club, restaurants, cafes; the list will go on," he said.
"The economic carnage on those venues will be huge. Does anyone in that government think through the economic consequences of what they say? Gladys ought to drop that line immediately."
This makes no sense if it only stops you from getting it, but not from spreading it. You'll be a greater danger to the public if you've had the jab since you won't feel sick if you are carrying it.
I've heard that before, 'not getting it, but being able to spread it'. How does that work in reality?
If you don't have it, you are not coughing, not shedding it, so how can you pass it on? Hand contact? Sure, but what are the chances of that being an issue if no one there has it?
Do these vaccines somehow allow you to carry the virus but not being substantially affected by it? I would have thought it would be a very simple thing. You get the virus, your body fights it, and you are free of it. During the time your body is fighting it, you will feel sick, probably the same as any cold as your body heats up trying to eliminate it.
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..Harrow said..hashbrown said..
www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/berejiklian-vaccination-incentive-could-cause-economic-carnage/ar-BB1cR3uR?ocid=msedgntp
"Clearly opportunities to travel overseas or opportunities to enter certain workplaces or venues might be enhanced if you have the vaccine," she said.
Mr Latham said such an approach does "not accord with the national policy" of voluntary vaccination, and could result in millions of the state's citizens being banned from certain venues.
"Gladys Berejiklian is potentially banning hundreds of thousands maybe millions of people in New South Wales from going to the pub, the club, restaurants, cafes; the list will go on," he said.
"The economic carnage on those venues will be huge. Does anyone in that government think through the economic consequences of what they say? Gladys ought to drop that line immediately."
This makes no sense if it only stops you from getting it, but not from spreading it. You'll be a greater danger to the public if you've had the jab since you won't feel sick if you are carrying it.
I've heard that before, 'not getting it, but being able to spread it'. How does that work in reality?
If you don't have it, you are not coughing, not shedding it, so how can you pass it on? Hand contact? Sure, but what are the chances of that being an issue if no one there has it?
Do these vaccines somehow allow you to carry the virus but not being substantially affected by it? I would have thought it would be a very simple thing. You get the virus, your body fights it, and you are free of it. During the time your body is fighting it, you will feel sick, probably the same as any cold as your body heats up trying to eliminate it.
You have it you just dont have symptoms. You don't know you have it so you are not careful and spread it.
Another school in France has 26 confirmed cases and they still havnt closed the school??
We need to keep the schools open so parents can go to work!
Emeritus Professor Robert Clancy, AM, MBBS(Hons), BSc(Med), PhD, FRACP, FRCPA, one of Australia's leading clinical immunologist and a pioneer in the field of mucosal immunology (with 260 Publications), who was awarded an Order of Australia (AM) for his services to Immunology and Medicine, expressed his opinion in an article published in Quadrant
quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2021/01/covid-19-a-realistic-approach-to-community-management/
They didnt walk on the moon, chemtrails, the earth is flat, corona virus is a hoax, the government is listening to us on our phones, 4g/5g will kill you.
Why are the people who believe any one of the above is true, believe all of them are true??
Yet they have never, even once, ever, actually proved any of them.??
I guess the governments of the world must be absolutely awesome at covering up these truths,,,,,, but yet they cant even seem to cover up their own sexual affairs from the public ?? 
but manage to somehow keep all these other things secret??
I read this line in that article and the alarm bell started ringing.
"Typical data for high risk subjects (over 50 years of age with one or more co-morbidities) in the US is currently 18-20 per cent hospitalisation, with mortality around 1 per cent. "
Today's figures say the US has had 24.3M cases with a bit over 400K deaths. That's about 1.7% deaths in ALL cases, not just "high risk subjects"
So I wondered why at was in the article that caused Japie to post it. I read on and, sure enough, Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine got a recommendation.
Do you own shares in the manufacturer, Japie?
Select to expand quoteMr Milk said..
I read this line in that article and the alarm bell started ringing.
"Typical data for high risk subjects (over 50 years of age with one or more co-morbidities) in the US is currently 18-20 per cent hospitalisation, with mortality around 1 per cent. "
Today's figures say the US has had 24.3M cases with a bit over 400K deaths. That's about 1.7% deaths in ALL cases, not just "high risk subjects"
So I wondered why at was in the article that caused Japie to post it. I read on and, sure enough, Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine got a recommendation.
Do you own shares in the manufacturer, Japie?
The alarming number here is 20 per cent hospitalisation. This is the the problem. Hospitals at capacity and abmbulances queing up with sick people that cant even get into the hospital.
Ski fields are closed here because lots of people end up in hospital when skiing. Not because they think its going to spread in the ski fields. They keep explaining this on the news but people still dont get it.
Prof Didier Raoul is seen as a hero in Marseille because he has helped so many lives using Hydroxychloroquine. The rest of France and the world think's he's a nutter.
Select to expand quoteMr Milk said..
I read this line in that article and the alarm bell started ringing.
"Typical data for high risk subjects (over 50 years of age with one or more co-morbidities) in the US is currently 18-20 per cent hospitalisation, with mortality around 1 per cent. "
Today's figures say the US has had 24.3M cases with a bit over 400K deaths. That's about 1.7% deaths in ALL cases, not just "high risk subjects"
So I wondered why at was in the article that caused Japie to post it. I read on and, sure enough, Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine got a recommendation.
Do you own shares in the manufacturer, Japie?
It's off patent.
I posted it because there is now irrefutable evidence that one it works.
The longer the hide truth is kept from the public the more dire the consequences.
I said at the outset when the faulty mortality projections became obvious and they switched from deaths to "cases" that it would be the integrity of the medical fraternity that would shine the light of truth on this. Not bureaucrats and not the press.
The longer they ignore it the larger the class action.
Select to expand quotejapie said..
Emeritus Professor Robert Clancy, AM, MBBS(Hons), BSc(Med), PhD, FRACP, FRCPA, one of Australia's leading clinical immunologist and a pioneer in the field of mucosal immunology (with 260 Publications), who was awarded an Order of Australia (AM) for his services to Immunology and Medicine, expressed his opinion in an article published in Quadrant
quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2021/01/covid-19-a-realistic-approach-to-community-management/
Interesting and good info. Didnt read all of it!
He mentions the lung problems. This is what my wife's friend that is a doctor is dealing with. Having to explain to people that their lungs are farked and they aren't going to get better. Healthy young people that can't do any sort of sport anymore , people that can't go back to work full time.
Select to expand quotetarquin1 said..FormulaNova said..Harrow said..hashbrown said..
www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/berejiklian-vaccination-incentive-could-cause-economic-carnage/ar-BB1cR3uR?ocid=msedgntp
"Clearly opportunities to travel overseas or opportunities to enter certain workplaces or venues might be enhanced if you have the vaccine," she said.
Mr Latham said such an approach does "not accord with the national policy" of voluntary vaccination, and could result in millions of the state's citizens being banned from certain venues.
"Gladys Berejiklian is potentially banning hundreds of thousands maybe millions of people in New South Wales from going to the pub, the club, restaurants, cafes; the list will go on," he said.
"The economic carnage on those venues will be huge. Does anyone in that government think through the economic consequences of what they say? Gladys ought to drop that line immediately."
This makes no sense if it only stops you from getting it, but not from spreading it. You'll be a greater danger to the public if you've had the jab since you won't feel sick if you are carrying it.
I've heard that before, 'not getting it, but being able to spread it'. How does that work in reality?
If you don't have it, you are not coughing, not shedding it, so how can you pass it on? Hand contact? Sure, but what are the chances of that being an issue if no one there has it?
Do these vaccines somehow allow you to carry the virus but not being substantially affected by it? I would have thought it would be a very simple thing. You get the virus, your body fights it, and you are free of it. During the time your body is fighting it, you will feel sick, probably the same as any cold as your body heats up trying to eliminate it.
You have it you just dont have symptoms. You don't know you have it so you are not careful and spread it.
Another school in France has 26 confirmed cases and they still havnt closed the school??
We need to keep the schools open so parents can go to work!
I think this is different though. Its one thing to have it and not show symptoms, clearly you can spread it although probably not as much as someone who is coughing all over the place.
If you have the vaccine though and it stops you from getting the disease, how can you pass it on other than passing it via physical contact from someone else?
edit: okay, I understand now. It seems that most of these vaccines can stop the virus from attacking the lungs but it can still grow in the back of the nose. Yikes!
Headline from ABC news site
www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-20/uk-covid-19-crisis-worsens-london-mortuaries-struggle-to-keep-up/13059998
The dead threaten to overwhelm the living as UK sets new record for COVID deaths
ZOMBIES
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Headline from ABC news site
www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-20/uk-covid-19-crisis-worsens-london-mortuaries-struggle-to-keep-up/13059998
The dead threaten to overwhelm the living as UK sets new record for COVID deaths
ZOMBIES
I think anyone here that doesn't believe this stuff should go there. Maybe Scotland? and see for themselves whether this affects people. Plus as a bonus they could get Covid "naturally" and avoid those horrible nasty vaccines.
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..elmo said..
Headline from ABC news site
www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-20/uk-covid-19-crisis-worsens-london-mortuaries-struggle-to-keep-up/13059998
The dead threaten to overwhelm the living as UK sets new record for COVID deaths
ZOMBIES
I think anyone here that doesn't believe this stuff should go there. Maybe Scotland? and see for themselves whether this affects people. Plus as a bonus they could get Covid "naturally" and avoid those horrible nasty vaccines.
www.ft.com/content/e7cb76fc-da98-4a31-9c1f-926c58349c84?fbclid=IwAR0xuElFwE4E0oNKV2GAegT3VLEiqXtlRp-DmooViEqixMCjERvqjlP-F4w
Emeritus Professor Robert Clancy, AM, MBBS(Hons), BSc(Med), PhD, FRACP, FRCPA, one of Australia's leading clinical immunologist and a pioneer in the field of mucosal immunology (with 260 Publications), who was awarded an Order of Australia (AM) for his services to Immunology and Medicine, expressed his opinion in an article published in Quadrant, in which he stated;
* "It could be summarised that in a 'post-truth world' those with COVID-19 disease are denied safe, effective treatment which, if given early, can reduce admission to hospital and death.''
* "The data has moved on, and that science-based decisions can and must be made if lives are to be saved...."
* "Two drugs ARE effective: hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) and ivermectin (IVM), with most effective trials including nutraceutical, zinc and intracellular antibiotics."
* "Denial was reinforced by bureaucrats, media and the pharmaceutical industry (which has no interest in cheap drugs without patents).''
* "With both HCQ and IVM it is the sheer number of good observational and RCT studies consistently showing protection when used early in disease that makes an irrefutable case.''
* "From uncertain beginnings, an impressive data base has more recently accumulated that strongly supports the use of HCQ and/or IVM. Their use in concert with vaccines can no longer be denied; indeed this is the only science-based option.''
quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2021/01/covid-19-a-realistic-approach-to-community-management/
Have any studies been done to see if fluoride is effective ?
I mean fluoride and hydroxide are chemically very similar.
Maybe they could add it to drinking water to administer it very quickly and effectively without people even having to know about it ?
Select to expand quoteCarantoc said..
Have any studies been done to see if fluoride is effective ?
I mean fluoride and hydroxide are chemically very similar.
Maybe they could add it to drinking water to administer it very quickly and effectively without people even having to know about it ?
I know very little about fluoride but I do know that aluminium sulphate is very widely used in water treatment plants as a flocculant.
I also know that aluminium is the most widely suspected contributor to Alzheimer's.
So I don't drink tap water.
Select to expand quotejapie said..FormulaNova said..elmo said..
Headline from ABC news site
www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-20/uk-covid-19-crisis-worsens-london-mortuaries-struggle-to-keep-up/13059998
The dead threaten to overwhelm the living as UK sets new record for COVID deaths
ZOMBIES
I think anyone here that doesn't believe this stuff should go there. Maybe Scotland? and see for themselves whether this affects people. Plus as a bonus they could get Covid "naturally" and avoid those horrible nasty vaccines.
www.ft.com/content/e7cb76fc-da98-4a31-9c1f-926c58349c84?fbclid=IwAR0xuElFwE4E0oNKV2GAegT3VLEiqXtlRp-DmooViEqixMCjERvqjlP-F4w
I don't bother reading random links without at least some explanation. I think I was worn down my PM33s endless links that he hadn't bothered to read or watch either.
That link could be the answer I seek, but I may never know.
