The 1.8M is pretty amazing in strong wind. Had a great session yesterday in 25-40mph+ winds with Ha880 and 55L ML. I've never been that comfortable going upwind in those conditions. Maybe the strongest gusts I've been out in.
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The 1.8M is pretty amazing in strong wind. Had a great session yesterday in 25-40mph+ winds with Ha880 and 55L ML. I've never been that comfortable going upwind in those conditions. Maybe the strongest gusts I've been out in.
That's great to hear. Just about to pull the trigger on the 1.8m. Here in Perth I've been managing to hold an edge to shoot upwind on the 2.9 in 27 knots but it's a struggle. Super windy season so far. Just an epic time I can't miss out any of it! Happy days!
When getting super powered up I'm learning to harness in and use a high angle of attack. The Parawing will compress and become more high aspect and handle the overpowered conditions better. It is a fine line between being in control and totally losing it. Definitely need to use harness to hold it down. Doing some of this in ugly Lake Ontario weather, the face shield comes in handy:
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When getting super powered up I'm learning to harness in and use a high angle of attack. The Parawing will compress and become more high aspect and handle the overpowered conditions better. It is a fine line between being in control and totally losing it. Definitely need to use harness to hold it down. Doing some of this in ugly Lake Ontario weather, the face shield comes in handy:?si=b9-6DtsSgFXuFHN-
Things get dicey real quick if super powered up and you accidentally turn slightly downwind haha. I've had a few really fun hooked in catapult fails.
Select to expand quoteMidAtlanticFoil said..foilthegreats said..
When getting super powered up I'm learning to harness in and use a high angle of attack. The Parawing will compress and become more high aspect and handle the overpowered conditions better. It is a fine line between being in control and totally losing it. Definitely need to use harness to hold it down. Doing some of this in ugly Lake Ontario weather, the face shield comes in handy:?si=b9-6DtsSgFXuFHN-
Things get dicey real quick if super powered up and you accidentally turn slightly downwind haha. I've had a few really fun hooked in catapult fails.
I've just started getting a super high angle of attack after using a smaller Armstrong HA. Riding toeside can be interesting if you lose that angle and have to suddenly go downwind. Probably then fastest I've ever been on a foil ha ha. One of the benefits of parawings is just how easy it is to go upwind on toeside. Having just one hand on the bar allowing you to open the shoulders and fully turn to look upwind far more than standard wing. I'm not needing to foot change and still crack upwind. My focus has been to try and match a local session that I do with standard wing, being to do mini downwind runs and then go upwind and repeat. It's going well until I make a few mistake or hit weed and get gassed. It's at that stage I find it hard to maintain the angle of anttack needed annd lose my edge when well powered and thus struggle the upwind ride home. Nice excuse for a leisurely walk home!
Select to expand quoteSheps said..MidAtlanticFoil said..foilthegreats said..
When getting super powered up I'm learning to harness in and use a high angle of attack. The Parawing will compress and become more high aspect and handle the overpowered conditions better. It is a fine line between being in control and totally losing it. Definitely need to use harness to hold it down. Doing some of this in ugly Lake Ontario weather, the face shield comes in handy:?si=b9-6DtsSgFXuFHN-
Things get dicey real quick if super powered up and you accidentally turn slightly downwind haha. I've had a few really fun hooked in catapult fails.
I've just started getting a super high angle of attack after using a smaller Armstrong HA. Riding toeside can be interesting if you lose that angle and have to suddenly go downwind. Probably then fastest I've ever been on a foil ha ha. One of the benefits of parawings is just how easy it is to go upwind on toeside. Having just one hand on the bar allowing you to open the shoulders and fully turn to look upwind far more than standard wing. I'm not needing to foot change and still crack upwind. My focus has been to try and match a local session that I do with standard wing, being to do mini downwind runs and then go upwind and repeat. It's going well until I make a few mistake or hit weed and get gassed. It's at that stage I find it hard to maintain the angle of anttack needed annd lose my edge when well powered and thus struggle the upwind ride home. Nice excuse for a leisurely walk home!
Right on! Which HA wing are you on? The smallest I've gone is 880.
Spot on about the toeside riding.
At least the walk of shame is super manageable only carrying the board!
Absolutely agree about the walk back afterwards with only the board. My set up with the 680 HA comes in under 7.5kgs (I'm 70kgs). It's a nice way to wind down before going home or contemplate another run with the opportunity to tweak set up. Thinking the 780 with 2.9m be the nicest combo for most sessions but when a bit hard to get up go the 4m? Still trying combos but man I'm enjoying the learning process.Have to say the AFS Enduro looks like a nice foil. Love to try one but demo booked out for weeks Anyway I'm totally stoked with the HA in how well I can keep edge and get up so easily. The profile seems perfect for parawing.
Looks really promising. Please show us upwind/downwind and the 3m in action.
2025 looks to be the year of the Parawing as more brands come on board. Really exciting times!
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Looks really promising. Please show us upwind/downwind and the 3m in action.
2025 looks to be the year of the Parawing as more brands come on board. Really exciting times!
This vid has him going upwind and downwind www.facebook.com/share/v/193J2DKdyh/ they claim it goes upwind as well as a wing.
Where did that come from? Have you a link? I'm tossing up new injectors for the cruiser or a new D wing...
I contacted Flow a few days ago and got this response.Select to expand quote ...We are currently finalizing pricing as well as delivery information. Please let us get back to you as soon as we have these details confirmed. ....
The pricing shown in Hilly's post looks pretty good. Certainly more realistic than BRM.
Also very appealing is the adoption of very basic paraglider design principles (reflex profile, colour coded lines and leading edge, A-line flying and depower). It was kind of obvious that this would happen.
The D-Wing looks good but I have to say the Maliko appears to have a lot less fabric and thus easier to stow. Also, now that I'm a competent rider the issue of flapping and difficulty controlling the power doesn't seem much of an issue any more. Going upwind on a 4m the other day in 28 knots plus wasn't an issue now that I have worked out the way to ride. Essentially, when going upwind rather than control the power primarily with the wing the rider needs to change their angle of attack into the wind. By riding closer to the wind and maintaining an edge it's incredible how much power you can take. And of course when going downwind no issue with power really. The advantages of the Maliko are there. Small, minimal and more than controllable. The D -Wing looks easier to get going on but not sure about stowing and keeping small. Keen to try though.
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Where did that come from? Have you a link? I'm tossing up new injectors for the cruiser or a new D wing...
They emailed it to me after I expressed interest to sales@flowparagliders.com.au
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With a name like 'Roger'...it's gotta be good.
Roger the cabin boy 
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Dimitry Evseev giving it a good go on a parawing in Mauritius
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Pricing just dropped
Damn that looks good! I am currently holding off on parawings because I'm supposed to be working on my paddle ups but this looks just the ticket.
Really liking the look of the airfoil shape, looks like a proper wing and with good depower. I imagine something like this would sail quite nicely. Definitely appreciate the colour coding as I've untangled many many kite lines over the years and it would be a nightmare without the different colours.
I agree the colour coding for the leading edge is a good idea but after using the Maliko for about three months now I never have an issue untangling the lines. I don't want to knock the decisions made, but to me it's not necessary to have different colour lines. And even the leading edge, how hard it's it to identify the leading edge without the coulour? Not hard at all really.
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I agree the colour coding for the leading edge is a good idea but after using the Maliko for about three months now I never have an issue untangling the lines. I don't want to knock the decisions made, but to me it's not necessary to have different colour lines. And even the leading edge, how hard it's it to identify the leading edge without the coulour? Not hard at all really.
My decision was purely fiscal. 1200 v 2000 so D-wing wins.
Select to expand quotehilly said..Sheps said..
I agree the colour coding for the leading edge is a good idea but after using the Maliko for about three months now I never have an issue untangling the lines. I don't want to knock the decisions made, but to me it's not necessary to have different colour lines. And even the leading edge, how hard it's it to identify the leading edge without the coulour? Not hard at all really.
My decision was purely fiscal. 1200 v 2000 so D-wing wins.
Yep that's a good reason Aussie company too is a bonus. Enjoy!
Select to expand quoteYoungbreezy said..
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Dimitry Evseev giving it a good go on a parawing in Mauritius
Amazing footage.
Select to expand quoteSheps said..
I agree the colour coding for the leading edge is a good idea but after using the Maliko for about three months now I never have an issue untangling the lines. I don't want to knock the decisions made, but to me it's not necessary to have different colour lines. And even the leading edge, how hard it's it to identify the leading edge without the coulour? Not hard at all really.
It makes no sense to not colour code the lines and leading edge. It doesn't add to the cost and it offers a benefit. Why would you not do it?
Select to expand quoteGorgo said..Sheps said..
I agree the colour coding for the leading edge is a good idea but after using the Maliko for about three months now I never have an issue untangling the lines. I don't want to knock the decisions made, but to me it's not necessary to have different colour lines. And even the leading edge, how hard it's it to identify the leading edge without the coulour? Not hard at all really.
It makes no sense to not colour code the lines and leading edge. It doesn't add to the cost and it offers a benefit. Why would you not do it?
Well I'm just saying the advantages of doing so are pretty marginal IMHO and I wouldn't buy a parawing just because it has these features. There are other design considerations that are way more important. Personally I love the minimalist ethos of BRM and all the design outcomes that stems from it. That's why we have parawings after all. I guess other brands are needing to have a point of difference and all other things equal I guess there isn't any downside of adding the colours. Each to their own I suppose.
Select to expand quoteArthurAlston said..Youngbreezy said..
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Dimitry Evseev giving it a good go on a parawing in Mauritius
Amazing footage.
Russian parawing?? How do they have time for sh1t like that aren't they too busy bombing Ukraine?
Sheps,
Is anyone on Maui actually using the BRM for multi mile upwind then downwind sessions or is everyone just driving upwind like always? I.E. is it reasonable to expect to be able to go upwind for miles through the 3 meter+ swell I'm dealing with on a daily basis?
Not easy even with 2.5 - 3.5 wings. Everyone here has dumped their paddles because of logistics and the fact that downwinding with a 2.5 is such a non-issue (...and swing'in the big board around sucks). The parawing is the perfect solution if it actually works.
I've got a 3M Roger showing up in January regardless. The Flow really looks the most stable of all of them so far and that Russian POS the least. The Ensis is all we can get here...
