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DEEP Oceanboards 7'2" Minion // Review

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Created by Casso > 9 months ago, 4 Jun 2014
rodriguez
VIC, 883 posts
26 Jul 2014 11:09AM
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Tang said..
At the risk of left fielding here, I would just say that my 2012 and 2013 SB 8'5" pros with c drive fins have never spun out through a bottom turn, and I have given it a red hot go, I can assure you.

and I get my new minion on Sunday, yeehar.


Tang,please lots of pics and commentary.

Casso
NSW, 3775 posts
26 Jul 2014 3:43PM
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Kami said..

Casso said..


If anyone wants to try the 7'2" Minion - get to Warriewood Beach this Sunday (27 July 2014) between 10am and 12pm. I'll be there with a few DEEPs you are welcome to have a go on:

- 7'2" x 26 7/8" x 3 15/16" x 92L
- 8'0" x 27 1/2" x 3 3/4" x 91L
- 8'4" x 28" x 3 3/4" x 97L
- 11'0" x 29" x 4 1/4" x 150L

Casso.




is the black stripe a mark to step around to find quickly the good feet position to paddle on


It wasn't actually - but that IS a good idea.

Kami
1566 posts
26 Jul 2014 4:12PM
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Casso said..



Kami said..




Casso said..


If anyone wants to try the 7'2" Minion - get to Warriewood Beach this Sunday (27 July 2014) between 10am and 12pm. I'll be there with a few DEEPs you are welcome to have a go on:

- 7'2" x 26 7/8" x 3 15/16" x 92L
- 8'0" x 27 1/2" x 3 3/4" x 91L
- 8'4" x 28" x 3 3/4" x 97L
- 11'0" x 29" x 4 1/4" x 150L

Casso.







is the black stripe a mark to step around to find quickly the good feet position to paddle on





It wasn't actually - but that IS a good idea.






After use of the foot mark, you may find 2 positions away from each other ones, away around a toe's length.
First one for waiting period and second one a bit further back, this last one is to paddle for taking off.

And my last tip on these shortSUP is how to lift up from prone position to stand up:
Jump on the board (straight on the foot mark)when the first wave is passing you upon the back face of this wave , like you do when you take off on a shortboard on the wave facing the beach. This way you stand up easily and fast for the wave action

I would like so much to have a go with your board

colas
5364 posts
26 Jul 2014 4:48PM
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TheGoodDr said..
Also I was very surprised at the drop in stability during the take-off. The trad board tended to pearl away from whatever rail was lower in the water.


Very true, that's the problem with narrow noses in SUP, the asymmetry of our body forces on takeoff...

highvolume
TAS, 208 posts
26 Jul 2014 7:07PM
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HI

Has anyone worked out a good boardbag for this shape board?
I have a round nose one that is doing the job ok with a bit of duct tape work, but wonder if a modern sailboard slalom board bag would fit better.

Hey colas you should ask those short board mates of yours from that American forum ( the one that boots people off it for liking the wrong brand of boards) to come over here for a chat instead. I am sure their opinions would be much appreciated. They had some great discussions on short board design before the threads got deleted.

Cheers Chris

Tang
VIC, 580 posts
27 Jul 2014 12:36AM
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rodriguez said..

Tang said..
At the risk of left fielding here, I would just say that my 2012 and 2013 SB 8'5" pros with c drive fins have never spun out through a bottom turn, and I have given it a red hot go, I can assure you.

and I get my new minion on Sunday, yeehar.



Tang,please lots of pics and commentary.


I'll do my best, but my lovely wife will be in the water with me (dropping in on me, most likely) and doesnt do the photo thing much. Last year we got a few photos with an SLR from the surf guide but most of the time he was off with the boats during the day and we stayed behind and surfed the resort wave so he missed almost all the good surfs there. At least I'll be able to send in a lineup shot.....

and I'm hoping I'll just be doing a big +1 for Casso's original review!

TheGoodDr
SA, 216 posts
27 Jul 2014 12:10AM
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highvolume said..
HI

Has anyone worked out a good boardbag for this shape board?
I have a round nose one that is doing the job ok with a bit of duct tape work, but wonder if a modern sailboard slalom board bag would fit better.

Hey colas you should ask those short board mates of yours from that American forum ( the one that boots people off it for liking the wrong brand of boards) to come over here for a chat instead. I am sure their opinions would be much appreciated. They had some great discussions on short board design before the threads got deleted.

Cheers Chris


Hi Chris,
Balin are doing two sizes for the minions.

Contact Simon at Dolphin Industries, I'm sure he'll point you in the right direction.

Cheers, Bob

colas
5364 posts
27 Jul 2014 2:20PM
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highvolume said..
Hey colas you should ask those short board mates of yours from that American forum ( the one that boots people off it for liking the wrong brand of boards) to come over here for a chat instead.


Well, since my account have been closed, I cannot even PM them there anymore, and I don't feel like recreating a fake account. But a lot of them have migrated to a new friendly place, http://www.soulsup.com I encourage you to also look there if you want discussions about progressive Surf SUP shapes. Normally centered on southern California, but boards discussed there are quite interesting. A good complement to seabreeze.

Too bad Soulsup uses a quite weird forum system, not as usable in my opinion than the classic ones like seabreeze.

Piros
QLD, 7213 posts
29 Jul 2014 6:33PM
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Thanks Colas your input is always well received

Tang
VIC, 580 posts
30 Jul 2014 11:45PM
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Got my new 7'8" minion on Monday and have had it out in 1-2ft and 25kts yesterday and today in well overhead with 15kts. I'll take it to the maldives in 2 weeks before posting a proper review, but for now I have to say I cant believe how tight the turning arcs are, and how much squirt there is thru turns. or how well it paddles into waves for its size. Or how stable it is.

even got a hoot doing my first real reo in 10 years. Stoked.

mags
SA, 124 posts
31 Jul 2014 12:51AM
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Yes Tang they make ya want to go surfing soooooo much fun to ride !!! simon has hit the nail on the head with this little design. have had one for 6 month with the fang tail, just got another with a dropped swallow tail yet to surf it.

Piros
QLD, 7213 posts
31 Jul 2014 9:55AM
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Tang said:- "and how much squirt there is thru turns"

That's sums these boards up in a nut shell and that's what makes them so much fun to ride .

marcus
WA, 219 posts
31 Jul 2014 10:38AM
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I'm coming over to pick up a 6'10 x 25 3/4 75litres in a couple of weeks. All these posts are getting me super excited! Are the board bags previously mentioned made to order or are they of the shelf things. Cheers.

windara
QLD, 256 posts
31 Jul 2014 7:27PM
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Tang said..
Got my new 7'8" minion on Monday and have had it out in 1-2ft and 25kts yesterday and today in well overhead with 15kts. I'll take it to the maldives in 2 weeks before posting a proper review, but for now I have to say I cant believe how tight the turning arcs are, and how much squirt there is thru turns. or how well it paddles into waves for its size. Or how stable it is.

even got a hoot doing my first real reo in 10 years. Stoked.


Im guessing that's with the stock fins. You tried it with the C-Drives ? Got me looking forward to mine :)

MickMc
VIC, 456 posts
31 Jul 2014 7:42PM
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Tang said..
Got my new 7'8" minion on Monday and have had it out in 1-2ft and 25kts yesterday and today in well overhead with 15kts. I'll take it to the maldives in 2 weeks before posting a proper review, but for now I have to say I cant believe how tight the turning arcs are, and how much squirt there is thru turns. or how well it paddles into waves for its size. Or how stable it is.

even got a hoot doing my first real reo in 10 years. Stoked.


Hey Tang, interested on your take on how your new minion compares to your 8'5 Starboard pro (think that's what I've seen you riding at the point and at supertubes?) and the 7'11 airborn .... glide, stability and on the wave.

ghost4man
408 posts
31 Jul 2014 6:33PM
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marcus said...
I'm coming over to pick up a 6'10 x 25 3/4 75litres in a couple of weeks. All these posts are getting me super excited! Are the board bags previously mentioned made to order or are they of the shelf things. Cheers.


Marcus what are you height and weight wise. As a reference I am 73kg and 184cm in height. That is one seriously small board mate.

ghost4man
408 posts
31 Jul 2014 6:38PM
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Tang said...
Got my new 7'8" minion on Monday and have had it out in 1-2ft and 25kts yesterday and today in well overhead with 15kts. I'll take it to the maldives in 2 weeks before posting a proper review, but for now I have to say I cant believe how tight the turning arcs are, and how much squirt there is thru turns. or how well it paddles into waves for its size. Or how stable it is.

even got a hoot doing my first real reo in 10 years. Stoked.


What is increasingly obvious to even the casual observer is how well these boards get on the wave in a very efficient manner.

Piros
QLD, 7213 posts
31 Jul 2014 9:44PM
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You need to think outside the square on these boards , litres just go out the window .It's the door shape that make them stable , 6ft & 90kg can ride a sub 100 litre board.

marcus
WA, 219 posts
31 Jul 2014 8:45PM
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Hi ghost4man. I'm 5'7 and 67 kgs. Small foam for small human:) Can't wait to get it!

Tang
VIC, 580 posts
31 Jul 2014 11:21PM
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Gday Windara and Mick,

I've only ridden it twice and that was on the fins Simon provided - I thought it best to have a go on the fins recommended by the man who shaped the board first (a darc drive, shapers S7 on the front and shapers MGX1 rears) and get the feel of it so I could compare properly. I'm still getting the hang of it, but I did a few turns on Wednesday that surprised me, and it hung on pretty well on a couple of bigger ones where I thought there was a good chance I was going to lose it through a bumpy bottom turn. If my neck improves I'll have a paddle tomorrow and then transition over to cdrives over the weekend.

At this stage, the starby pro 8'5" with cdrives still seems to have the edge off the bottom - it just feels really secure into a bottom turn - but the minion has this speed thing going on when you do a proper hook/cutty and the turning arc is so tight. The smaller size seems to make it easier to bring it up into a good section and hit the lip. It seems to me that the two of them are a great travel combo for the moment - I'm taking them both away, with the minion for sub-4ft and the pro for 4ft +. The thing that I notice is how easy it is to get your back foot right down the back of the tail, and once you do it just comes alive. Might have to tell Simon to put a big G in that spot for your foot......

I need to ride it in some good 2-3ft waves to see how it compares to the airborne - I found the airborne went really well in the small stuff, but it's a different way of surfing. And the airborn is 3.3" thick and a lot lighter. It's 98litres, and I'm already wondering how far down I can go around that volume on my next minion.

In short, it gets into waves really well - I caught a couple of overhead waves that I wouldnt have gotten into on the 8'5". The glide is good but not great, as you;d expect for the length, but the wave catching makes up for it (and the 25kt offshore had me powering back out), and stability is as good as the 8'5" and possibly a bit better front to back. It doesn;t yaw much either, I can do 4-6 strokes a side no worries, often more. Do bear in mind that this is my first custom board since 1998, so I've got a bit of froth going on.

And Mick, come say gday next time we're in the water together.

I reckon Piros is right about volume - mine sits pretty high in the water at 110litres with my 85-90kg on it, and I was already wondering whether I should have gone thinner from 4 1/4" and down to 100 litres or so. Have to do that for the next one.

Marcus, I reckon your 6'10 will be unreal - that's almost the size shortboard I used to ride!

SUPSMURF
NSW, 164 posts
31 Jul 2014 11:50PM
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Jeez marcus that thing is a tooth pick at 75 litres! I am 5'6" at 65 kegs and I thought going sub 7' was impossible on a Minion. Would be great to get your feedback mate if you could spare the time re stability in chop And general surfing performance. I've left a message on FB for the Deep guys to get the ball rolling.

MickMc
VIC, 456 posts
31 Jul 2014 11:50PM
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Thanks for that comparison mate. I'm Mick on the red JL striker just in case you're wondering. Can't believe you've been out in that wind over the last couple of days. If you can catch waves in these conditions you can catch them in anything. I've been thinking of getting one of these boards as well so it's really good to get some feedback which will help me decide how wide and long to go. Looking forward to having a chat in the water next time you're out.

windara
QLD, 256 posts
31 Jul 2014 11:58PM
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Yeh thanks Tang for the info. Have fun in indo!!

Tang
VIC, 580 posts
1 Aug 2014 12:00PM
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No worries, boys. See you in the water, Mick.

I timed it pretty well on Wednesday, the wind was only about 20 on the gusts unlike yesterday/today with gusts around 40-50kts. We'll be trying for a not-so-secret spot on high tide today so there won;t be any need to paddle back out with the wind like it is (though I note that the apparent temp is -5.5 at Aireys now). I saw on swellnet that they recorded gusts off the south coast of tassie of 92kts on Weds night I think.....shame it was all going NW or we'd have a 15ft swell.

Having seen boardbumps' post on the SUP thread and his 6'10" it's already making my 7'8" seem like a mal.

And I'm off to the maldives in a fortnight, have to wait til next year for Indo! Yahoo!

lookielookie
QLD, 347 posts
1 Aug 2014 3:11PM
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The DOOR ; it was originally Red, but now i want to paint it black!

Simon - you know you want to??








pumpnjump
WA, 264 posts
1 Aug 2014 4:15PM
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Tang said..
Got my new 7'8" minion on Monday and have had it out in 1-2ft and 25kts yesterday and today in well overhead with 15kts. I'll take it to the maldives in 2 weeks before posting a proper review, but for now I have to say I cant believe how tight the turning arcs are, and how much squirt there is thru turns. or how well it paddles into waves for its size. Or how stable it is.

even got a hoot doing my first real reo in 10 years. Stoked.


Very interested in your comparison with the SB Pro 8'5" as I am familiar with that, and the fact you say its as stable, what width did you go for? Do you mind measuring the front of the board for width, trying to get an idea of wide point of board to nose width proportion. Cheers.

marcus
WA, 219 posts
1 Aug 2014 4:36PM
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Hi supgman. Yeah I'll put up a little run down after I spend some time on it. A week till I get over there and simon says it'll be ready or close to ready for pick up:)

SUPSMURF
NSW, 164 posts
1 Aug 2014 10:27PM
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Thanks marcus that would be great.

Tang
VIC, 580 posts
2 Aug 2014 12:02AM
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Tang said..
Got my new 7'8" minion on Monday and have had it out in 1-2ft and 25kts yesterday and today in well overhead with 15kts. I'll take it to the maldives in 2 weeks before posting a proper review, but for now I have to say I cant believe how tight the turning arcs are, and how much squirt there is thru turns. or how well it paddles into waves for its size. Or how stable it is.

even got a hoot doing my first real reo in 10 years. Stoked.



Very interested in your comparison with the SB Pro 8'5" as I am familiar with that, and the fact you say its as stable, what width did you go for? Do you mind measuring the front of the board for width, trying to get an idea of wide point of board to nose width proportion. Cheers.


Too late for a tape, but the original design was 27 7/8 wide and it had a nose at 12" of 23 1/2 and a tail at 12" of 21 1/16. So I assume the refined board at 28 1/4" will be pretty close to that give or take 1/4".

ellemenophee
SA, 68 posts
3 Aug 2014 7:48PM
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Front & Rear.





Contact Simon at Dolphin Industries.




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