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Created by theselkie > 9 months ago, 21 Nov 2018
BeamReach
SA, 167 posts
8 May 2023 12:39PM
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I remember that Roberts, you posted.
That's a great buy, with a mooring!!
I would think the hull is would have bad osmosis, requiring stripping right back.. That would be a weeks work for 2 guys.. Costly getting a contractor to do, but you still would be way infront..
Plus you have an operating engine...
Cheers

Ramona
NSW, 7722 posts
8 May 2023 5:31PM
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BeamReach said..
I remember that Roberts, you posted.
That's a great buy, with a mooring!!
I would think the hull is would have bad osmosis, requiring stripping right back.. That would be a weeks work for 2 guys.. Costly getting a contractor to do, but you still would be way infront..
Plus you have an operating engine...
Cheers


No osmosis. The hull is excellent. I wanted him to just use the local slip for a couple of days. He has found a broken bottle screw on the main shrouds that was wrapped and has crevice corrosion that led to the failure.

Ramona
NSW, 7722 posts
8 May 2023 5:34PM
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For Adelaide people. Couple of ex military Corsairs!

www.pickles.com.au/trucks/item/-/details/CP--CIRCA-undefined-Corsair-Single-Axle-Boat-Trailer/258161/


I have one for sale too.

MAGNESIUM
220 posts
8 May 2023 6:24PM
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Ramona said..
For Adelaide people. Couple of ex military Corsairs!

www.pickles.com.au/trucks/item/-/details/CP--CIRCA-undefined-Corsair-Single-Axle-Boat-Trailer/258161/


I have one for sale too.


As a matter of interest is the Corsair Similar in any way to a Wayfarer Dinghy?
would it be suitable as a serious cruising dinghy?

BeamReach
SA, 167 posts
8 May 2023 8:07PM
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Ramona said..
For Adelaide people. Couple of ex military Corsairs!

www.pickles.com.au/trucks/item/-/details/CP--CIRCA-undefined-Corsair-Single-Axle-Boat-Trailer/258161/


I have one for sale too.





Thanks for Spotting !! Possibly another good buy!
Although Pickles prices are always over the top here.
Especially Ex- Govt Trailers and Trucks.
I already have a collection of boats, I don't get the time to use..!!!
I have seen these hulls before.
I didn't know they were called Corsairs.
You learn everyday on this forum...
Cheers

BeamReach
SA, 167 posts
8 May 2023 8:17PM
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Ramona said..
For Adelaide people. Couple of ex military Corsairs!

www.pickles.com.au/trucks/item/-/details/CP--CIRCA-undefined-Corsair-Single-Axle-Boat-Trailer/258161/


I have one for sale too.


Thanks for Spotting !! Possibly another good buy!
Although Pickles prices are always over the top here.
Especially Ex- Govt Trailers and Trucks.
I already have a collection of boats, I don't get the time to use..!!!
Cheers
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Ramona said..

BeamReach said..
I remember that Roberts, you posted.
That's a great buy, with a mooring!!
I would think the hull is would have bad osmosis, requiring stripping right back.. That would be a weeks work for 2 guys.. Costly getting a contractor to do, but you still would be way infront..
Plus you have an operating engine...
Cheers



No osmosis. The hull is excellent. I wanted him to just use the local slip for a couple of days. He has found a broken bottle screw on the main shrouds that was wrapped and has crevice corrosion that led to the failure.


Another well spotted, excellent buy !!!

Cheers

r13
NSW, 1712 posts
8 May 2023 9:35PM
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MAGNESIUM said..

Ramona said..
For Adelaide people. Couple of ex military Corsairs!

www.pickles.com.au/trucks/item/-/details/CP--CIRCA-undefined-Corsair-Single-Axle-Boat-Trailer/258161/


I have one for sale too.



As a matter of interest is the Corsair Similar in any way to a Wayfarer Dinghy?
would it be suitable as a serious cruising dinghy?


Very similar dinghies - see the wikipedia articles on them. Corsair a bit lighter but still hefty at 136kg - which is good for a serious cruising dinghy. Very well built.

Andrew68
VIC, 433 posts
8 May 2023 10:01PM
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Magic Dragon is up for Auction, bidding starts 24 May

marineauctions.nextlot.com/public/sales/103433/lots/20851856

I recall this was a very tidy boat when it was sold last time and might have been owned by one of our members previously, but not sure.





lydia
1920 posts
9 May 2023 3:47AM
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Yep did the full Reno about 2004
sold to lovely guy who raced it a lot then on sold
not much could go wrong with it although standing rigging might need replacing and the engine might need work
be an excellent Hobart two handed and was also measured for IMS back then so has proof of stability
was also the fastest of the currawongs even when new and then we pulled heaps of weight out of the deck gear and rig.
I can remember pulling the mast base out was a prick of a job as it is put in before the furniture, had it re galvanised but that would need re visiting.

i should have kept that one to use as I now use Defiance

Ramona
NSW, 7722 posts
9 May 2023 8:36AM
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MAGNESIUM said..

Ramona said..
For Adelaide people. Couple of ex military Corsairs!

www.pickles.com.au/trucks/item/-/details/CP--CIRCA-undefined-Corsair-Single-Axle-Boat-Trailer/258161/


I have one for sale too.



As a matter of interest is the Corsair Similar in any way to a Wayfarer Dinghy?
would it be suitable as a serious cruising dinghy?


The Corsair is a bit longer at 16 feet. Designed by Alan Payne and designed for construction in fibreglass only. The Wayfarer was originally a hard chine plywood boat just a bigger version of an Enterprise [from a different designer]. We had lots of Enterprises in Australia but very few Wayfarers. At the time they were about the only dinghy designed for a crew of three apart from the light weight sharpie. The armed forces selected the Corsair to replace the Bosun dinghy in about 1970 because they are just about bullet proof and pleasant to sail. The Bosun dinghy was basically a round bilge version of a Wayfarer built very heavily in fibreglass by apprentices at the navy dockyard in Sydney.
The Corsair has very comfortable seating but as far as cruising goes I would think it would be the same as a stock Wayfarer. The Wayfarers that did ocean crossings where highly modified.

Kinora
VIC, 185 posts
9 May 2023 9:19AM
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lydia said..
Yep did the full Reno about 2004
sold to lovely guy who raced it a lot then on sold
not much could go wrong with it although standing rigging might need replacing and the engine might need work
be an excellent Hobart two handed and was also measured for IMS back then so has proof of stability
was also the fastest of the currawongs even when new and then we pulled heaps of weight out of the deck gear and rig.
I can remember pulling the mast base out was a prick of a job as it is put in before the furniture, had it re galvanised but that would need re visiting.

i should have kept that one to use as I now use Defiance


"I should have kept that one to use as I now use Defiance".

Interesting comment, Lydia. I'd be very keen to hear why you'd choose the Currawong over your S&S 30.

Also, I'm going to have to pull the ring frame out of Kinora at some stage (you advised me to do it when we re-rigged the boat immediately after purchase, should have listened). Any tips? Maybe a question for another thread ...

Cheers,
Kinora

lydia
1920 posts
11 May 2023 5:22AM
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Kinora said..

lydia said..
Yep did the full Reno about 2004
sold to lovely guy who raced it a lot then on sold
not much could go wrong with it although standing rigging might need replacing and the engine might need work
be an excellent Hobart two handed and was also measured for IMS back then so has proof of stability
was also the fastest of the currawongs even when new and then we pulled heaps of weight out of the deck gear and rig.
I can remember pulling the mast base out was a prick of a job as it is put in before the furniture, had it re galvanised but that would need re visiting.

i should have kept that one to use as I now use Defiance



"I should have kept that one to use as I now use Defiance".

Interesting comment, Lydia. I'd be very keen to hear why you'd choose the Currawong over your S&S 30.

Also, I'm going to have to pull the ring frame out of Kinora at some stage (you advised me to do it when we re-rigged the boat immediately after purchase, should have listened). Any tips? Maybe a question for another thread ...

Cheers,
Kinora


K
will post a proper reply when I get a chance
L

Kinora
VIC, 185 posts
13 May 2023 8:49AM
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lydia said..

Kinora said..


lydia said..
Yep did the full Reno about 2004
sold to lovely guy who raced it a lot then on sold
not much could go wrong with it although standing rigging might need replacing and the engine might need work
be an excellent Hobart two handed and was also measured for IMS back then so has proof of stability
was also the fastest of the currawongs even when new and then we pulled heaps of weight out of the deck gear and rig.
I can remember pulling the mast base out was a prick of a job as it is put in before the furniture, had it re galvanised but that would need re visiting.

i should have kept that one to use as I now use Defiance




"I should have kept that one to use as I now use Defiance".

Interesting comment, Lydia. I'd be very keen to hear why you'd choose the Currawong over your S&S 30.

Also, I'm going to have to pull the ring frame out of Kinora at some stage (you advised me to do it when we re-rigged the boat immediately after purchase, should have listened). Any tips? Maybe a question for another thread ...

Cheers,
Kinora



K
will post a proper reply when I get a chance
L


Thanks, Lydia. I'm going through a low point with Kinora right now and looking for a reason to persevere!

K.

morningsun
179 posts
13 May 2023 4:01PM
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MAGNESIUM


As a matter of interest is the Corsair Similar in any way to a Wayfarer Dinghy?
would it be suitable as a serious cruising dinghy?


If you have some spare time, here is a great story from Seacraft clippings about a Corsair trip from Sydney, and ending in Cairns.
Published in 1973, by a sailmaker with a bit of adventure about him...

www.redheadsails.com/Redheadsails/Published_Articles.html

julesmoto
NSW, 1569 posts
13 May 2023 7:08PM
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morningsun said..

MAGNESIUM


As a matter of interest is the Corsair Similar in any way to a Wayfarer Dinghy?
would it be suitable as a serious cruising dinghy?



If you have some spare time, here is a great story from Seacraft clippings about a Corsair trip from Sydney, and ending in Cairns.
Published in 1973, by a sailmaker with a bit of adventure about him...

www.redheadsails.com/Redheadsails/Published_Articles.html


Fun read passing part of my four hour wait at Brisbane airport. Thanks :-).

Chris 249
NSW, 3515 posts
13 May 2023 10:11PM
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The Corsair is a good boat, but has much less freeboard than a Wayfarer and can take water over the lee gunwale surprisingly easily. It also tends to float low when filled. Canberra YC put bulkheads to make sure the whole foredeck (rather than just part of it) provided buoyancy but that meant they floated stern-down when capsized. For a cruising dinghy they'd be much better (IMHO) with bouyancy bags or bouyant storage, well distributed fore and aft.

They're still a good boat and about the only thing of their type in Oz. I got two of them for our club and they're hard to kill and easy to fix.

Chris 249
NSW, 3515 posts
13 May 2023 10:13PM
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MAGNESIUM


As a matter of interest is the Corsair Similar in any way to a Wayfarer Dinghy?
would it be suitable as a serious cruising dinghy?



If you have some spare time, here is a great story from Seacraft clippings about a Corsair trip from Sydney, and ending in Cairns.
Published in 1973, by a sailmaker with a bit of adventure about him...

www.redheadsails.com/Redheadsails/Published_Articles.html


Wow, I remember reading that in old mags but didn't realise it was Marko. He builds some very nice sails: I was looking at some old ones of his at our club and they have stood up beautifully.

r13
NSW, 1712 posts
14 May 2023 6:00PM
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The legend is on the market - not sure if still is..............
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-defiance-30-complete-refit-new-engine-mast-electrics/273798

Bananabender
QLD, 1610 posts
14 May 2023 8:17PM
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Lydia saved her , restored in Bne. and sailed to Tassie. no expense spared.

Andrew68
VIC, 433 posts
16 May 2023 10:40AM
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lydia said..
i should have kept that one to use as I now use Defiance


You could always buy here back ! The auctions are usually very good value.

r13
NSW, 1712 posts
16 May 2023 11:14PM
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These sail well upwind in light to moderate breezes as long as smaller jibs are set in the latter, but are tippy.................reaching and running they are very fast.

www.facebook.com/commerce/listing/1466729414164001/?ref=share_attachment

Ramona
NSW, 7722 posts
18 May 2023 8:58AM
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Some Metal Gleam would have this Corsair looking like new!

www.ebay.com.au/itm/166077733837

lydia
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19 May 2023 5:06AM
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Lydia saved her , restored in Bne. and sailed to Tassie. no expense spared.


Why Defiance is special!



Phil and Rohan at the AWBF 2023
They built her with Rohan starting his apprenticeship the week they started lofting.
Phil by the way is the man behind the Kingston displacement cruisers
Special boats always have associations with special people


lydia
1920 posts
19 May 2023 5:06AM
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Lydia saved her , restored in Bne. and sailed to Tassie. no expense spared.


Why Defiance is special!



Phil and Rohan at the AWBF 2023
They built her with Rohan starting his apprenticeship the week they started lofting.
Phil by the way is the man behind the Kingston displacement cruisers
Special boats always have associations with special people


lydia
1920 posts
19 May 2023 5:08AM
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lydia
1920 posts
19 May 2023 5:12AM
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lydia
1920 posts
19 May 2023 5:13AM
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Sorry if someone wants to correct the pics

garymalmgren
1345 posts
19 May 2023 7:11AM
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cisco
QLD, 12361 posts
19 May 2023 11:37AM
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Much kudos to lydia for saving her and boty for bringing her back to life. Big thumbs up.

PhilY
NSW, 157 posts
19 May 2023 1:27PM
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The only non white boat in Constitution Dock this year!



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