Looks like that cute little Mini Transat made it across from WA to VIC, only to go up for sale again : www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/2009-transat-mini-prototype/SSE-AD-7469367/?Cr=33
Adams 31 project still available. Interior timber will never be much good with a varnish finish but it still has good bones.
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/ulladulla/sail-boats/adams-31-yacht/1285401892
She sat on the bottom for a while, if it wasn't for the fresh that sunk her it would of had barnicals on the mast
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She sat on the bottom for a while, if it wasn't for the fresh that sunk her it would of had barnicals on the mast
Doesn't matter. Fibreglass is fairly waterproof and while that rear bulkhead timber will need replacing it's still a lot of boat for two grand!
It must have a fair amount of solid timber or marine ply in the fitout? For being completely submerged for a while it doesn't look to have the level of cabinetry disintegration you'd expect? Apart from that rear bulkhead??
I can only imagine what a modern boat filled with chipboard would look like after a dunk : p
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It must have a fair amount of solid timber or marine ply in the fitout? For being completely submerged for a while it doesn't look to have the level of cabinetry disintegration you'd expect? Apart from that rear bulkhead??
I can only imagine what a modern boat filled with chipboard would look like after a dunk : p
Yes, I agree. looking at the interior shots again more carefully a lot of the timber would come up well after a pull scraper on the surface. The brass hinges and catches on the cabinets will be stuffed and they date the boat a bit. SS Chinese stuff is cheap and of excellent quality. There is a two-blade folding propeller and these boats have a lead keel. There is a free diesel on Facebook market place in Sydney that would suit [needs a gearbox]. This is a good boat going ridiculously cheap.
Great boats I got the same. TASMAN 26. The only issue I got is to match engine 8hp yanmar and a propeller otherwise very stable boats. Been sailing a lot around heads ( Sydney Harbour) and no issues at all. Handles well big waves. A lot of space inside. If strong wind use only Genoa... you will like it. I payed 15k for mine and its worth every and each penny.
Any questions please ask.
Swarbick S111 yachts. Big and fast! Take your pick. Those Tasers in WA are good value too. The Tasers built for the navy were just plain GRP construction.
www.pickles.com.au/optimisedsearch/-/optimisedsearch/afm#!/search-result?q=ProductType.Boats.
Select to expand quoteRamona said..
Swarbick S111 yachts.
Those used to do all the ocean races when I was in Victoria. Seemed like a good training idea. Rumour was that the Navy offshore sailing program ended when someone decided the minimum times off watch etc needed to be adhered to, and it wasn't possible to get enough crew on board to cater for this. Good solid design.
I really like the aft cockpit ones of these. Particularly with the tiller.
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/torquay/sail-boats/carter-33-cruising-yacht/1286200007
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I really like the aft cockpit ones of these. Particularly with the tiller.
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/torquay/sail-boats/carter-33-cruising-yacht/1286200007
Looked at a few of those last year. That one looks to have a better chainplate arrangement than the couple I looked at which had a weird painted (and in my opinion inadequately sized) regular steel triangular knee setup on the port side although a totally different more conventional set up on starboard much as depicted on this boat. Quite liked the rest of the boat but I agree that rear cockpit is the way to go. Keen price if there is nothing wrong with it.
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Swarbick S111 yachts. Big and fast! Take your pick. Those Tasers in WA are good value too. The Tasers built for the navy were just plain GRP construction.
www.pickles.com.au/optimisedsearch/-/optimisedsearch/afm#!/search-result?q=ProductType.Boats.
I did the Melbourne to Hobart on Charlotte of Cerberus around 1993 I think. Not normally a privilege given to a recruit (as I was at the time) but I was lucky enough to get a ride based on my experience of having done the '91 Sydney to Hobart before joining the Navy. We got a good result, mainly because not many finished. The start was postponed because of breaking waves across the heads of Port Phillip Bay, and we had a nasty bash into it all the way down the west coast. But the S111 was built like a tank and smashed through (airborne in an offwatch bunk if you didn't strap in). Much of the fleet didn't even get across Bass Strait. I think there were 38 starters and only 4 finished. Wikipedia says of the 104 starters in the '93 Sydney to Hobart, 38 finished. So high attrition rate on both coasts that year.
This photo was us after we had turned the corner. And before any armchair hero comments on the sail trim, literally minutes before the helicopter flew past to get this shot (pre-drone days), I was up the mast retrieving the blown out head of our last remaining spinnaker (my second time up the mast in the race - yep, send the young, skinny bloke up). So we were still sorting things out. With me up the mast: now THAT would have been a brag photo to show the kiddies :-) Bugger!
If you can/want-to, buy one of these boats - I can personally attest to the fact that they won't let you down when it gets nasty.
Select to expand quoteduncansayers said..Ramona said..
Swarbick S111 yachts. Big and fast! Take your pick. Those Tasers in WA are good value too. The Tasers built for the navy were just plain GRP construction.
www.pickles.com.au/optimisedsearch/-/optimisedsearch/afm#!/search-result?q=ProductType.Boats.
I did the Melbourne to Hobart on Charlotte of Cerberus around 1993 I think. Not normally a privilege given to a recruit (as I was at the time) but I was lucky enough to get a ride based on my experience of having done the '91 Sydney to Hobart before joining the Navy. We got a good result, mainly because not many finished. The start was postponed because of breaking waves across the heads of Port Phillip Bay, and we had a nasty bash into it all the way down the west coast. But the S111 was built like a tank and smashed through (airborne in an offwatch bunk if you didn't strap in). Much of the fleet didn't even get across Bass Strait. I think there were 38 starters and only 4 finished. Wikipedia says of the 104 starters in the '93 Sydney to Hobart, 38 finished. So high attrition rate on both coasts that year.
This photo was us after we had turned the corner. And before any armchair hero comments on the sail trim, literally minutes before the helicopter flew past to get this shot (pre-drone days), I was up the mast retrieving the blown out head of our last remaining spinnaker (my second time up the mast in the race - yep, send the young, skinny bloke up). So we were still sorting things out. With me up the mast: now THAT would have been a brag photo to show the kiddies :-) Bugger!
If you can/want-to, buy one of these boats - I can personally attest to the fact that they won't let you down when it gets nasty.
The S111 are a great yacht. I looked after some of the Navy fleet for a few years including one currently for sale on Pickles. Layout below is not the best for cruising having been fitted out for recruit training. Very solid yachts built to a high standard for the RAN
Select to expand quotetroubadour said..duncansayers said..Ramona said..
Swarbick S111 yachts. Big and fast! Take your pick. Those Tasers in WA are good value too. The Tasers built for the navy were just plain GRP construction.
www.pickles.com.au/optimisedsearch/-/optimisedsearch/afm#!/search-result?q=ProductType.Boats.
I did the Melbourne to Hobart on Charlotte of Cerberus around 1993 I think. Not normally a privilege given to a recruit (as I was at the time) but I was lucky enough to get a ride based on my experience of having done the '91 Sydney to Hobart before joining the Navy. We got a good result, mainly because not many finished. The start was postponed because of breaking waves across the heads of Port Phillip Bay, and we had a nasty bash into it all the way down the west coast. But the S111 was built like a tank and smashed through (airborne in an offwatch bunk if you didn't strap in). Much of the fleet didn't even get across Bass Strait. I think there were 38 starters and only 4 finished. Wikipedia says of the 104 starters in the '93 Sydney to Hobart, 38 finished. So high attrition rate on both coasts that year.
This photo was us after we had turned the corner. And before any armchair hero comments on the sail trim, literally minutes before the helicopter flew past to get this shot (pre-drone days), I was up the mast retrieving the blown out head of our last remaining spinnaker (my second time up the mast in the race - yep, send the young, skinny bloke up). So we were still sorting things out. With me up the mast: now THAT would have been a brag photo to show the kiddies :-) Bugger!
If you can/want-to, buy one of these boats - I can personally attest to the fact that they won't let you down when it gets nasty.
The S111 are a great yacht. I looked after some of the Navy fleet for a few years including one currently for sale on Pickles. Layout below is not the best for cruising having been fitted out for recruit training. Very solid yachts built to a high standard for the RAN
I have never sailed an S111 but I did go for a ride on one to test the prop pitch and I can report that they will motor at 6 knots!
The CO of the squadron in the navy I used to fly with unfortunately got cancer and was posted off to Canberra. He was part of the team that selected the Swarbick S111 for purchase by the navy. It was definitely the correct choice of vessel.
Interesting way to secure a mooring line on this yacht with a asking price of $150,000 
www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/2017-adams-45/SSE-AD-3331213/?Cr=2
Can anyone here estimate on what it would cost to complete this project? Professional job rather than DIY
Select to expand quotePhoney said..
www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/2017-adams-45/SSE-AD-3331213/?Cr=2
Can anyone here estimate on what it would cost to complete this project? Professional job rather than DIY
150 grand.
Select to expand quotePhoney said..
www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/2017-adams-45/SSE-AD-3331213/?Cr=2
Can anyone here estimate on what it would cost to complete this project? Professional job rather than DIY
Professionally, well over $500k.
Depends a lot on the internal finish - you could add another $150k for nice timber work. Electronic packages can also get rather expensive.
Work on at least 2500 hrs.
Powered sail handling/ carbon spars etc can add on as well.
Downsides:
1./ It has been "heavily built". This is supposed to be a lightish boat,so you will need a trick lightweight interior to compensate. You will end up with minimal tankage and cruising luxuries
2./ Balsa core is not ideal.
3./ Deck is bonded on. Will have to be cut off to do job properly.
4./ It's a dated design. It was , and still would be quick, but modern boats have much more volume.
With changes , upgrades and cost blowouts, budget on $750k, and you will get a nice cruising boat you may be able to sell for $300k.
Ouch! That was rather a lot more than I was expecting
If I had $500k to drop I would get something like a 10 year old Lagoon 450 and be done with it.
Select to expand quotetroubadour said..duncansayers said..Ramona said..
Swarbick S111 yachts. Big and fast! Take your pick. Those Tasers in WA are good value too. The Tasers built for the navy were just plain GRP construction.
www.pickles.com.au/optimisedsearch/-/optimisedsearch/afm#!/search-result?q=ProductType.Boats.
I did the Melbourne to Hobart on Charlotte of Cerberus around 1993 I think. Not normally a privilege given to a recruit (as I was at the time) but I was lucky enough to get a ride based on my experience of having done the '91 Sydney to Hobart before joining the Navy. We got a good result, mainly because not many finished. The start was postponed because of breaking waves across the heads of Port Phillip Bay, and we had a nasty bash into it all the way down the west coast. But the S111 was built like a tank and smashed through (airborne in an offwatch bunk if you didn't strap in). Much of the fleet didn't even get across Bass Strait. I think there were 38 starters and only 4 finished. Wikipedia says of the 104 starters in the '93 Sydney to Hobart, 38 finished. So high attrition rate on both coasts that year.
This photo was us after we had turned the corner. And before any armchair hero comments on the sail trim, literally minutes before the helicopter flew past to get this shot (pre-drone days), I was up the mast retrieving the blown out head of our last remaining spinnaker (my second time up the mast in the race - yep, send the young, skinny bloke up). So we were still sorting things out. With me up the mast: now THAT would have been a brag photo to show the kiddies :-) Bugger!
If you can/want-to, buy one of these boats - I can personally attest to the fact that they won't let you down when it gets nasty.
The S111 are a great yacht. I looked after some of the Navy fleet for a few years including one currently for sale on Pickles. Layout below is not the best for cruising having been fitted out for recruit training. Very solid yachts built to a high standard for the RAN
I remember sailing these S111's out of Creswell when I was a young Midshipman! I much preferred being let loose on the Endeavour 24's to do our own thing, rather than being under the watch of a junior officer who most times had less seatime and less idea than I did!
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Ouch! That was rather a lot more than I was expecting
If I had $500k to drop I would get something like a 10 year old Lagoon 450 and be done with it.
Wouldn't go anywhere near a Lagoon 450.
Check out bulkhead issues
Select to expand quotepsychomub said..Phoney said..
Ouch! That was rather a lot more than I was expecting
If I had $500k to drop I would get something like a 10 year old Lagoon 450 and be done with it.
Wouldn't go anywhere near a Lagoon 450.
Check out bulkhead issues
Parlay Revival
Select to expand quoteEnigma1 said..psychomub said..Phoney said..
Ouch! That was rather a lot more than I was expecting
If I had $500k to drop I would get something like a 10 year old Lagoon 450 and be done with it.
Wouldn't go anywhere near a Lagoon 450.
Check out bulkhead issues
Parlay Revival
Yep, that's one of them.
The Lagoon 400 also had issues with the main bulkhead - rot as it wasn't treated or sealed.
In fact all Lagoons of that era are crap...and some earlier ones.
Select to expand quoteRamona said..Phoney said..
www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/2017-adams-45/SSE-AD-3331213/?Cr=2
Can anyone here estimate on what it would cost to complete this project? Professional job rather than DIY
150 grand.
and the rest if paying a shipwright
Select to expand quotepsychomub said..Enigma1 said..psychomub said..Phoney said..
Ouch! That was rather a lot more than I was expecting
If I had $500k to drop I would get something like a 10 year old Lagoon 450 and be done with it.
Wouldn't go anywhere near a Lagoon 450.
Check out bulkhead issues
Parlay Revival
Yep, that's one of them.
The Lagoon 400 also had issues with the main bulkhead - rot as it wasn't treated or sealed.
In fact all Lagoons of that era are crap...and some earlier ones.
BTW, I have a mate with a FP Orana 44. He says it is almost impossible to sleep on (at anchor) as there is so much creaking and groaning from the structure.
Even allowing for the fact that could be non-structural stuff creaking, I just have to say OMG.
I used to worry when my 45 year old wooden boat creaked, and that was just one creak in one place.
A lot of boat for the money.
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/buchanan-34-sloop/264609
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A lot of boat for the money.
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/buchanan-34-sloop/264609
what is that section on the back of the keel?
Trim tab. See page 85 (6th pdf page) of this;
www.ericwsponberg.com/wp-content/uploads/keel-and-rudder-design.pdf
The 1967 12m Intrepid is stated as supposedly being the first to use a trim tab but this is incorrect.
12myc.org/intrepid-us-22/
For instance according to this link the genius E G van de Stadt did a trim tab a lot earlier than 1967;
www.facebook.com/groups/storerboatplans/permalink/3473203279379907/
Lots of good links on line regarding how and why they were used but they are not used much now.
Select to expand quotecisco said..
A lot of boat for the money.
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/buchanan-34-sloop/264609
Yes and no...
Old steel boats like this really should be gutted, blasted inside and repainted, before reinstalling the interior.
That's a hell of a lot of work.
