I'm just trying to get over the jealousy of kozzie having a skate park on his own private tropical island that he kites 20kms offshore from
Select to expand quotedusta said..Kozzie said..
whats with all you guys suggesting being 3kms out is a stupid thing?!?! thats literally bloody nothing. ive lost count the amount of times ive been 20+k's off the coast. 3 is bloody nothing. just give the coastguard a heads up and take a waterproof uhf with you some water and lunch. ment to be a bloody adventure sport and all you all do is mow lawn and boost jumps for retirees on the beach. second you do something outside of that you try to throw the book at them for being dangerous etc etc this sport was a bit more fun before it became the new toy to have for your midlife crisis.
cool story bro
+1
If you go 3kms out to sea or any distance that you can't actually swim back in by yourself (especially un assisted or alone) you are a****** moron.
Should have left him out there... he will probably be the same guy down the beach tomorrow kiting through the flags at your local then telling off the life guards when they get angry at him for it.
we arrived in Cottesloe today and drove down the beach and i swear i saw that dude/kite riding out there, lol
Good luck swimming 3km with all your gear in swell, you'd be rooted in no time. Use your kite as a sail & self rescue.
gmd I always mow the lawn 1-3 km's off the coast and with L2L training I'm out to 5-7 km but 20K is out the back of Rotto & that my friend is along way out even with the right safety gear.
after dropping marvin and the crew off at their accomodation i saw this guy landing at the exact spot coldshot passed away .
And saw many other people kiting at that particular spot . You would think people would know better but obviously not .
On the ferry over to Rotto on Saturday morning, there is going to be a few quiet words said behind his back...
Pssssssst, thats the guy
! hehehe
^^oh no don't say things behind peoples backs^^
Thanks for all your concern and mis-information. Nothing like a Media/Forum Beat up.
Had a crash 1.9 km off shore. lost my board and some how managed to crash through the bar into my lines. Had lines tangled on lifevest and kite was death looping out to sea. Last time this happened I let the kite go and swam in. Took my 1 hour 40 min to swim in from further. Some how it happened again line was twisted/caught on bar and not much I could do. Once its twisted up and inverted good luck.
This time I held onto my kite to try and save it but kept on looping. Managed to pull the front lines and get into the kite. Was all wrapped up in lines from swimming over them. For some reason the kite did not want to self rescue and kept on falling into the water. So I just sat in it and waited for a mate.
Marker show's where I had stopped being dragged down wind by looping, blue dot but other line is point where met by boat.
What were you doing 1.9km offshore to begin with? There's no beat up here, that's pretty stupid, as you can see from what happened... People don't know what situation you are in (no matter what safety gear you have), so any time someone ****s up the rescue guys are going to be called which is terrible for the sport in general.
I did swimming training my whole youth, swum at least 2kms a day and still I don't go out that far for a reason.
Everyone should take note of what happened here, even if you feel you are prepared it doesn't stop other people thinking you aren't.
p.s.
Everyone should learn to rescue a mate if his kite is down like this, it's not actually that hard and would have saved you all this trouble.
^^^ the rescue guys love getting called, that's what they train for! They get to put their skills to use.
The guy had an unforeseen stuff up, and sounds like he took way more precautions then a lot of kiters.
Picker, that's an adventure! We have been 2km+ offshore a few times with similar safety equipment. You did well to handle and recover from the situation. The tangle sounds like it was nasty. Great to hear it was all resolved safely.
Select to expand quotepicker said..
^^oh no don't say things behind peoples backs^^
Thanks for all your concern and mis-information. Nothing like a Media/Forum Beat up.
For all concerned I was only 1.9 km offshore, fit and willing to swim in. ** happens some times. I am sorry if I have brought the sport into disrepute.
I was wearing a lifevest, had flare, e-flare (broken from crash) water proof phone in waterproof case, and PLB (epirb). Also had mates watching from close by. Was able to check into facebook and see how Tindr was going. Should have brought lunch or a fishing line.
If you see me out and about, come and say hi, I am more than happy to appologise for it, give you a beer and take/share some advise for the future. If you would like to play where's wally and post my daily location great - I'll be at Safety bay - teaching four mates with a North Rhino today.
hey picker
turns out i was right - you were on your phone!
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/General/Best-caption-competition/
personally, i think down winder crew blasting through swimmers/surfers, and nearly dropping kites on kids and dog walkers near shore line do a far worse job of bringing the sport into disrepute, then what your saga has entailed. all the best to you mate - plus your comments about sets on beach and north rhinos (did a self rescue from little island, about um, 2km offshore back in 07 or something on the ol'rhino) brought a chuckle from me! haha
happy winds...
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Not at all mate, in my opinion you are perfectly ok (more than that even). The disrepute comes from all the ignorant and uneducated comments. It is important that we show that we can handle emergencies, are prepared and informed about the risks and risk management. There is no shame in calling the rescue guys when you need it, the problem is the press sensationalising a minor event and brainless people commenting without knowledge of the subject and/or minimal or no experience in the matter. How many boats, swimmers, bush walkers get in trouble and we hear nothing about and don't bother.
Good on ya .. hope you got your board back.
regards
gmd
Select to expand quotesir ROWDY said...
So you guys are fine with paying the bill for the chopper???
Why do you bother to comment when you obviously have so little knowledge about the localities ?
Move along, it will be more productive.
Have a nice day
gmd
Because you effect everyone with problems like this Australia wide... I have heard as much as I need to know about the subject to know it's not a good look.
What more do I need to know??? Fill me in seeing you seem to have some higher wisdom that I appear to be obviously oblivious to, I'm keen to learn about it.
^^
rowdy
i guess i could get p*ssed about tax payer dollars etc, but i see plenty more degrees of waste in my line of work so i am probably just de-sensitised. i just assumed it was one of the shark spotting choppers that are doing the rounds constantly on the WA metro these days that spied him and called in the clubbies or rescue boat - whhich is probably what gmd is referring too as well (i know you've spent your share of time out west, but the shark paranoia at present is beyond reason - and when the chopper hangs over any one spot for a while, most people in the water start to get a bit sketched).
anyhow, got any vids to throw up yet? haven't seen any of your cuts for a while, always liked the diversity in them...
cheers
^ Cheers mate, I understand your viewpoint and it's valid.
Personally I'm not worried about the money, more worried about using that "waste of money, or resources" against us. Over east we have enough trouble not getting kiting banned in areas and when they have ammunition (stuff like this) to use against us it only makes arguing our case harder.
I know this guy wasn't a kook or trying to f#ck up on purpose, but I just hope this serves as a wake up to those few people I see often at beaches just cruising out over the horizon with little to no idea what they are in for as most people I see would struggle to get in unassisted from only a few 100 meters behind the break let alone 2kms out. Every case recorded is a dent in our record... please think about it guys.
As for the vids Im working on a few now, trying to put together a little wave vid and a twin tip vid, lets see if I can bring something out before Chrissy... I wouldn't hold your breath though haha.
Select to expand quotesir ROWDY said..
Because you effect everyone with problems like this Australia wide... I have heard as much as I need to know about the subject to know it's not a good look.
What more do I need to know??? Fill me in seeing you seem to have some higher wisdom that I appear to be obviously oblivious to, I'm keen to learn about it.
Seems to be a perfectly plausible and reasonable explanation by "Picker".
Good luck to you picker, you were well prepared.
As for sir Rowdy, well you sure are .....
What? No need to hold back.
If you don't see a problem with scenarios like this happening (imagine if more people now think it's ok to do) then I don't know what to say really.
Select to expand quotesir ROWDY said..
So you guys are fine with paying the bill for the chopper???
Yep because its a required service in case of accidents, this was an accident.
Its not like its a pandemic mate.
You have to accept the bloke was very well prepared, i think that is the lesson to be learnt from this and his humble/grateful response for the help he recieved, much more than the usual bull++++ you get on here from some arrogant, unprepared plonkers that do believe its ok to 1k+ offshore and couldn't swim 50m in a pool.
No you're 100% right it's not a pandemic, but if everyone thinks this type of situation is totally fine then this type of thing will happen more and more and as I've raved enough about already you should know why that is bad for kiting in AUS.
Lessons to be learnt -
Major lesson that can be learn here is; F#ck up offshore and expect that a boat or Heli will be out to help you, to the rightful dismay of other kiters.
Minor lesson to be learnt; If you go further out than you can swim in be prepared for the worst (not like that isn't common sense anyway... but after some responses in this thread I'm starting to question that).
You make some good points sirROwdy.
We all need to remember though, picker is from Victoria
hahaha, oh that explains a lot, especially if he's from Melbourne, I know this one guy from there called Ewan he's totally cooked.
Hey Guys,
I was co-coordinating picker's pickup up on Saturday. Firstly, that is exactly what SLSWA services are there for - to assist anyone that gets into a bit a trouble in the ocean. We have no problem in helping anyone out who needs it. The ocean is a place of adventure and accidents will happen from time to time.
No one has ever or will ever pay for any Surf Life Saving service and that includes a Westpac Lifesaver Helicopter. Picker was well equipped with the type of safety gear we would expect for what he was doing (although if you did activate your PLB I'd double check it's working correctly as nothing came through.)
We don't publish pictures to have a go at anyone, we publish them so highlight the type of work we are doing on the beaches everyday because as a charity we always need public support.
Just keep out of the flagged areas!!
Cam
SLSWA
Maybe Picker should throw some Christmas cheer in the form of $500.00 into the SLSC kitty as a thankyou for rescuing him?
Select to expand quoteCamSLSWA said..
Hey Guys,
I was co-coordinating picker's pickup up on Saturday. Firstly, that is exactly what SLSWA services are there for - to assist anyone that gets into a bit a trouble in the ocean. We have no problem in helping anyone out who needs it. The ocean is a place of adventure and accidents will happen from time to time.
No one has ever or will ever pay for any Surf Life Saving service and that includes a Westpac Lifesaver Helicopter. Picker was well equipped with the type of safety gear we would expect for what he was doing (although if you did activate your PLB I'd double check it's working correctly as nothing came through.)
We don't publish pictures to have a go at anyone, we publish them so highlight the type of work we are doing on the beaches everyday because as a charity we always need public support.
Just keep out of the flagged areas!!
Cam
SLSWA
CamSLSWA,
Kudos to your SAR crew, job well done.
As *responsible kitesurfers* we all keep out of flagged (and yellow buoy) areas - and make sure others do as well.
Keep up your great work - its appreciated by all.
Good to hear the clubbies over there are top blokes! Well done boys and thanks for helping us out.
Still I don't think you should be reliant on this type of service happening everywhere. Play it safe guys.
