Select to expand quotealty said..
Sorry to hear of this accident Pete. Hope you recover quickly. Will we be seeing you at the LOC?
Yes mate already registered.
wow, like everyone else... gobsmacked. completely. glad to hear that the injured party is ok (whilst monitoring still).
Can't believe that you got hit from behind by a vessel of that size, I work closely with VMR and Water Police regularly (I work on a rescue helicopter) and have never heard of an accident of this nature.
I agree they do a great job, but someone has been negligent with this accident and dare I say it this has been a great outcome, could have been very very different 
. I would certainly be contacting the water police and going through the appropriate channels to see what comes of it before hitting any media.
Like has been mentioned if people can learn from this and prevents another event happening then all the better, it's just a shame that a fellow kiter was run over for this to happen.
Best wishes mate, get well soon and buy a lotto ticket.
Select to expand quotearchie00 said..
When an accident results in:
serious injury or death; or
the vessel has been damaged enough to make it un-seaworthy or unsafe
the owner or skipper must report full particulars of the incident to the Department within seven days.
You can pick up a special Incident Report form from:
the Department???s offices,
download it from our website: www.dpi.wa.gov.au/imarine/1282.asp or
phone (08) 9216 8999 for one to be sent to you.
I am sure this would apply to the rescue vessel as well and there is no question it is reportable when an incident results in a head injury requiring hospital admission.
It is not about blame. Data collected from incidents like this help to mould policy, improvements and education to reduce future risk - to us all. I had an incident one year ago with a boat reversing over me, lines in propeller and my foot jammed with lines around it against the guard (very lucky it had one) surrounding the propeller. Lucky escape - never reported or discussed. My view is take the time and do the forms in a simple factual list.
Glad you ok Pete, what a horror story!!!
Cant wait to read the report and skippers report. Especially them running over you from the back i cannot understand.
maybe should be a bit more aware of your surroundings also..
Except no one has said it here...
Right, must remember to keep looking behind myself for a fifty foot boat that's about to run me over!
Select to expand quotesomeawe said...
Right, must remember to keep looking behind myself
Spot on dude 
you know, it's good idea to keep an eye out for things that might kill you 
Ever heard of the "swiss cheese model/effect"?
Measured response is definitely good advice on this one.
We need these guys - everyone on the water does.
One freak accident (regardless of the cause) is reason to sour what is currently a very good relationship.
Im sure the incident wont be pushed under the carpet. They will do a full internal examination.
As freakishly unlikely it is to ever happen again they will see it as cause to review all procedures.
Suggest that helmets with ears uncovered are the way to go.
Cant understand how anyone can tolerate the ear covered variety in any case.
So glad to hear you are OK Pete!!! Agree with Juddy - someone up there was looking out for you.
Could have been so much worse its scary.
I am sure if there is anything to be learnt from this they will investigate it and anything I say on here is speculation anyway but if you were hit from behind and your lines got caught on the anchor the boat must have gone over you and ended up in front of you before the lines could snag on the anchor. Jeez thats go to be a close call with the reaper.
So I guess you will be easy to spot on the water now with a set of rear vision mirrors on your bar and a big radar reflector stuck to your helmet. (god I hope this isn't the answer they find to reduce the risk
)
Good luck in returning to the water and I hope you get some new lines and beers out of it with an (unofficial no doubt)apology from the skipper.
Select to expand quotedefault said..someawe said...
Right, must remember to keep looking behind myself
Spot on dude
you know, it's good idea to keep an eye out for things that might kill you
Ever heard of the "swiss cheese model/effect"?
should we rename your forum id to nobs as well ?
good one dusta..
There is only one me!
Why dont you go teach some bodydragging down at Mulla's if your bored
Each time I read one of these incident threads, and there have been several lately, it's a wake up call. No use pointing fingers. My safety is my own responsibility. As is, it goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway, the safety of others.
Select to expand quotepuppetonastring said..
Measured response is definitely good advice on this one.
We need these guys - everyone on the water does.
One freak accident (regardless of the cause) is reason to sour what is currently a very good relationship.
Im sure the incident wont be pushed under the carpet. They will do a full internal examination.
As freakishly unlikely it is to ever happen again they will see it as cause to review all procedures.
Suggest that helmets with ears uncovered are the way to go.
Cant understand how anyone can tolerate the ear covered variety in any case.
So glad to hear you are OK Pete!!! Agree with Juddy - someone up there was looking out for you.
Could have been so much worse its scary.
This guy - known here as pilotpete - is seriously freakish.
I had only just caught up with this post (several days post the incident)
The above 'reply to this post' from me was open on our shop screen - almost ready to press 'post my reply' when guess who fronted looking to replace some damaged gear ?????
Woooooooooo ... freaky coincidence you may say. Sure seems so - another one.
Great to see our old buddy in such sound physical condition; enthusiastic about retelling the near horror story - BUT most of all - super enthusiastic about getting back on the horse. Great news all round Pete.
How about telling us the part of the story of the family watching from the holiday home balcony through binoculars as the whole sage unfolded before their very lenses - how freaky is that !!!!!!!!
Betcha they would have been the only ones on earth that could have had a private box to this show!!! And they happened to be seated & watching for the whole performance to play out !!!
You wouldnt believe it if you read it in a Barbara Cartland penny-dreadful. Understandably.
Select to expand quotepuppetonastring said..puppetonastring said..
Measured response is definitely good advice on this one.
We need these guys - everyone on the water does.
One freak accident (regardless of the cause) is reason to sour what is currently a very good relationship.
Im sure the incident wont be pushed under the carpet. They will do a full internal examination.
As freakishly unlikely it is to ever happen again they will see it as cause to review all procedures.
Suggest that helmets with ears uncovered are the way to go.
Cant understand how anyone can tolerate the ear covered variety in any case.
So glad to hear you are OK Pete!!! Agree with Juddy - someone up there was looking out for you.
Could have been so much worse its scary.
This guy - known here as pilotpete - is seriously freakish.
I had only just caught up with this post (several days post the incident)
The above 'reply to this post' from me was open on our shop screen - almost ready to press 'post my reply' when guess who fronted looking to replace some damaged gear ?????
Woooooooooo ... freaky coincidence you may say. Sure seems so - another one.
Great to see our old buddy in such sound physical condition; enthusiastic about retelling the near horror story - BUT most of all - super enthusiastic about getting back on the horse. Great news all round Pete.
How about telling us the part of the story of the family watching from the holiday home balcony through binoculars as the whole sage unfolded before their very lenses - how freaky is that !!!!!!!!
Betcha they would have been the only ones on earth that could have had a private box to this show!!! And they happened to be seated & watching for the whole performance to play out !!!
You wouldnt believe it if you read it in a Barbara Cartland penny-dreadful. Understandably.
Yes very spooky puppet and thanks for your help with the harness. Got back out for the first time since, had to blow away the images in my head. Foot still sore but I can work with that and given what could have been I feel like I've won the lotto!
PS, I do use the vented ear covers on the helmet, if you have ever smashed out at speed onto the side of your head that ear drums going to get a real shock if not blown out!
Select to expand quotepilotpete said..
I do use the vented ear covers on the helmet
And there's the problem. ^^^
Your sense of hearing was drastically compromised.
I don't bother with trying to speak with folks on the beach who wear helmets.
They can never hear what I'm talking about,
repeatedly saying "What, what ?"
lol.
And the golden rule of road and sea applies. Treat all others as idiots watch out for yourself and never expect anyone else to give way
waveslave you may well be correct but as with most safety equipment its use can sometimes be a compromise in practise. Certainly without a helmet it would have been curtains but to judge the effect the vented ear covers had is not easy, first my speed 30kmh, the head wind 11-14knt (say 20kmh), giving 50kmh over the ears, this would make hearing the boat harder and the boat speed unknown as yet but say 20knt (37kmh). If someone can compute some rough idea how sound would travel in this dynamic situation?
Add to this wind rush and board slap there???s lots to consider before making any assumptions as to how much of an effect this had on this particular situation.
Select to expand quotewaveslave said..
I don't bother with trying to speak with folks on the beach who wear helmets.
They can never hear what I'm talking about,
repeatedly saying "What, what ?"
lol.
But Pete - thats what everyone says to you whether they can hear you or not 
Select to expand quotepilotpete said..
waveslave you may well be correct but as with most safety equipment its use can sometimes be a compromise in practise. Certainly without a helmet it would have been curtains but to judge the effect the vented ear covers had is not easy, first my speed 30kmh, the head wind 11-14knt (say 20kmh), giving 50kmh over the ears, this would make hearing the boat harder and the boat speed unknown as yet but say 20knt (37kmh). If someone can compute some rough idea how sound would travel in this dynamic situation?
Add to this wind rush and board slap there???s lots to consider before making any assumptions as to how much of an effect this had on this particular situation.
... maybe shoulda turned on the TCAS!! 
Select to expand quotePuetz said...pilotpete said..
waveslave you may well be correct but as with most safety equipment its use can sometimes be a compromise in practise. Certainly without a helmet it would have been curtains but to judge the effect the vented ear covers had is not easy, first my speed 30kmh, the head wind 11-14knt (say 20kmh), giving 50kmh over the ears, this would make hearing the boat harder and the boat speed unknown as yet but say 20knt (37kmh). If someone can compute some rough idea how sound would travel in this dynamic situation?
Add to this wind rush and board slap there???s lots to consider before making any assumptions as to how much of an effect this had on this particular situation.
... maybe shoulda turned on the TCAS!!
Helmet with ADS-B and TCAS in a visor = bags of cash
And the golden rule of road and sea applies. Treat all others as idiots watch out for yourself and never expect anyone else to give way
Loved the article in the Sunday Times today Pete; the rescue guys claim you were stuffing around and then hit them.
Don't you know you should check your mirrors when reversing?
Excerpt from paper
"War on the waves"
"A HIGH-SPEED collision in the waves off Quinns Rocks has turned into a war of words between a volunteer sea rescue crew and a kite surfer who says he???s lucky he wasn???t killed by their 10-tonne vessel.
Compo claim: Crash victim Pete Morgan, is seeking about $3000 compensation for his kite and medical bills after a collision with a 10-tonne rescue boat. Picture: Daniel Wilkins
Kite surfer and Yanchep Beach Lagoon Cafe owner Pete Morgan, 50, is demanding about $3000 compensation for his damaged kite and ambulance and medical bills.
But the Whitfords Volunteer Sea Rescue Group, which is also out of pocket for a damaged radio tower as a result of the collision, won???t pay a cent ??? instead blaming Mr Morgan for ???stuffing around??? and trying to jump the boat wake.
The Department of Transport is investigating.
The drama unfolded on a sunny afternoon on December 30 when Mr Morgan said he was suddenly slammed ???from above and behind with a huge force??? while kite surfing in a designated area, about 400m off Quinns Rocks, north of Perth.
His GPS watch showed he accelerated from 30km/h to 118km/h in fractions of a second after the impact, which put him in hospital with concussion, a suspected broken foot and bruises.
Doctors said the crash might have been fatal if he had not been wearing a helmet.
???At first I thought it was a shark, I had visions of a great white breaking out of the water on to me. It pulled me straight down,??? he said. ???But as the aluminium hull passed over me I realised it was a boat.
???I was dragged under the water towards the rear of the boat and then I was suddenly pulled forward and up the side of the bow, hitting the anchor and the hull.??????
Mr Morgan, who is racing in today???s Lancelin Ocean Classic kite surfing event, was attached by ropes to his kite and ???luckily it pulled me away from the propellers, saving me from the possibility of horrific life-threatening injuries???.
???At this stage the boat stopped and now seemed to lurch up and down with the bow hitting me several more times around the head,?????? he said.
The boat crew pulled him aboard, administered first aid and transported him to Mindarie Marina.
Rescue group commander Roger Howell, who was not aboard at the time, said his crew were well aware of Mr Morgan, who had been ???pacing??? the boat for more than a kilometre before the crash.
Mr Howell said the skipper decided it was a dangerous situation and stopped the vessel, at which point Mr Morgan slammed into the boat."
Select to expand quotepilotpete said..
At approximately 15:23 on the 30/12/2013 I was kite surf training with a mate off Quinns Rocks WA 6030. We were both using 19m Ozone Edges on standard 27m lines.
I was heading toward the shore upwind on a SE heading at 30kmh.
I was looking in the direction of the heading for waves and obstructions when I was hit from above and behind with a huge force, at first I thought it was a shark but as the aluminium hull passed over me I realized it was a boat.
I was dragged under the water towards the rear of the boat and then I was suddenly pulled forward and up the side of the bow hitting the anchor located on the front of the boat where my kite lines had got caught and passed over the anchor (the kite had powered up as it was dragged by the boat and had pulled me forward and away from the propellers. This saved me from the possibility of horrific life threatening injuries). At this stage the boat stopped and now seemed to lurch up and down with the bow hitting me several more times around the head. I managed to kick off the side of the hull away from the boat, the first thing I noticed was the sheer size of the 40ft boat above me and in big letters the word ???RESCUE??? - how ironic!
I was eventually pulled onto the Rescue boat but was unable to do much as I was suffering with concussion. Whitford Sea Rescue called for an ambulance and took me into Mindarie Marina, but I do have to question where they were looking when they ran me down?
The Ambulance crew were great and managed my condition to the Joondalup Campus. Staff and doctors at the campus did more prodding and testing than I can recount. After a number of CT scans and X-ray???s they removed the neck collar to my great relief.
All up I have a good number of bruises a suspected broken bone in my foot and concussion. The doctor said that without the helmet I could have been dead.
The Rescue crew did cut my brand new kite lines :(
The conditions were fine and clear 11-14kts SW and 440m off shore.
Holly ** bro!! Stoked to hear that you're OK!!! An investigation into this is needed for sure!!
So according to their side of the story you hit their stationary boat whilst you were kiting backwards....interesting.........
And by that logic, they're claiming that a collision with a stationary boat resulted in an acceleration of the kiter, which the gps read out shows.
The laws of physics are not in accordance with the sea rescue story? Or is this more to this story??
The press always sensationalise stories, so lets hope it's them and not the rescue team, if it is the rescue team and Pete's story is accurate, then it is very poor form from the rescue guys and a big worry if that's the way they go about their work.....
