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Would you give up your privacy to tackle Covid19

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Created by FormulaNova > 9 months ago, 9 Apr 2020
Spotty
VIC, 1619 posts
23 Apr 2020 7:22AM
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Off to HW we go... and if you were some kind of Dr Evil, with evil elite cohort associates and Satanist doers like GEpstien and AB well you would probable use them to promote your evil utopia

Just days after Microsoft removed the universally hated Marina Abromovic VR ad, the New York Times has presented the satanic high priestess with a rousing defense posing her as the victim.

Though Infowars would love to take credit for starting the outrage against Abramovic, the YouTube dislikes for the Microsoft ad were already over 24,000 by the time Infowars reported on it, evidence of her widespread unpopularity.

Short AJ break down video with full add that got pulled after 24000 thumbs down....

banned.video/watch?id=5e9f9136f6b77e00aa943810

Longer more detailed AJ rant for those unaccustomed to what these cockroaches are in to...
banned.video/watch?id=5e94f7c7128d7e00b3af169b



The New York Times ran cover for "Spirit Cooking" performance artist Marina Abramovic after she and Microsoft received swift online backlash over her role in a commercial promoting virtual reality headgear. The visually unsettling ad showcased Microsoft's Hololens 2 "mixed reality" device, with Abramovich explaining why the new tech appealed to her unusually dark tastes.

But Microsoft quietly removed the ad from YouTube last week after it had received over 24,000 dislikes within 24 hours and widespread disapproval of Abramovic, well-known in elite circles and pop culture as a black magic ritualist. Alex Jones breaks down why Abramovic is such an important figure in elite circles and more: Now the New York Times is running cover for the "performance artist" by portraying her as a victim in a Tuesday article called "Marina Abramovic Just Wants Conspiracy Theorists to Let Her Be. "The piece begins by justifying Abramovic's past "violent" and "bloody" work, then goes on to call the bizarre Microsoft ad about virtual reality "some P.R. fluff."


"Ms. Abramovic's work can be violent, sometimes bloody, but the Microsoft video was more innocuous: It was focused on "The Life," in which museumgoers wear special headsets so that Ms. Abramovic seems to appear before then," the Times reported. "The video was essentially some P.R. fluff for the tech company's role in the artwork, which is scheduled to be auctioned by Christie's in October. But in one corner of the internet, it was seen as something else entirely: evidence of a Satanist conspiracy.

"The Times then blames Infowars for simply pointing out Abramovic's past "performances" and her links to the Hollywood and political elite, which was revealed by WikiLeaks in Hillary Clinton campaign manager John Podesta's emails. "Soon after the film appeared, it was being discussed in those terms on Reddit and other social media platforms. An article on the conspiracy theory website Infowars accused Microsoft of working with a 'witch,' a 'black magic performer' and a 'Luciferian individual. '

""I need to open my heart," Abramovic said. "I really want to ask these people, 'Can you stop with this? Can you stop harassing me? Can't you see that this is just the art I've been doing for 50 years of my life?'"" I am an artist, not a Satanist," she added. Right.posing with a flayed goat head in a blood-red vinyl outfit and brewing blood/feces/semen/breast milk cocktails is just art!

That totally explains why convicted child trafficker and NXIVM occultist Allison Mack posted a picture of Abramovic on her social media just before fleeing to Mexico in 2018 prior to her arrest - she's just a talented "artist." Take a look at some of Abramovic's "art" and decide for yourself. A word of advice for Abramovic: If you aren't prepared to receive criticism for appearances in widely-viewed advertisements, maybe you shouldn't do them. God bless!

More AB associates...

japie
NSW, 7145 posts
23 Apr 2020 8:24AM
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Sickos

FormulaNova
WA, 15090 posts
23 Apr 2020 7:20AM
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How did we go off into a Infowars tangent with that rubbish again?

Do you have to be crazy to follow these articles, or do even the crazy people skip to the bit where someone else explains it the them? Is this why we only hear the headlines, because the rest of it is just a little bit hard to actually understand?

It's like meeting a genuinely crazy person in the street. I just don't know how to answer...

Spotty
VIC, 1619 posts
24 Apr 2020 6:24AM
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..you'd be crazy not to understand the big picture

AquaPlow
QLD, 1064 posts
27 Apr 2020 5:45PM
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Well that is a fail.. 24 hours (almost after launch) - unless something stops me I will try again tomorrow...
Installed.. The play store bit worked well
Answered the Qu's and waited for a PIN from them - this has a 5 minute time out..
Well it timed out.. So the government and partners bit bombed...

So await developments - in the mean time it was uninstalled.. I do not like limbo and partial installs..

Cheers
AP

AHA - this is an update - just received the app PIN a modest 75 odd minutes after applying - since I tried twice I now have two pins
which both arrived within seconds of each other - Log Jam - removed..

Observations IURI...
I did not see the need for setting up browser internet sockets... - was planning on testing to disable this aspect...
I could identify where it was planning to store the data - does it have multiple copies?? Well there is a limit to the point of WOTIF conspiracies I am interested in.
It always wants to be running from boot. Did not get to the point where I could test if it had super user level control over settings.. Would be unlikely.. So if you play with your blue tooth (or have an app do it for U) You can turn off till you want it on - so SUPERMARKET or other high volume sites.. But although I can I will not dis-able this - as long as it does not interfere with my regular Bluetooth equipment..

Essentially the story provided was per first reports - it stated it stored all the information it picked up on your phone.
It records other people's app ID if you overlapped with their Bluetooth signal (So at best 10 meters line of site) - it would need to write on contact regardless of time of contact.. - just throw-away data for COVID tracking if under the time frame set...
If you or anyone else with the App gets tested positive they access (with permissions implied to be granted at install) the data,
x-reference all the ID's in the data to a mobile number and cast the fishing net. It indicates the assumption is a green light for every data set it needs to hit-up.

So what is not clear is if U are in a COVID trace fishing net- then once notified are you in breach of recent laws if you... move.
1) What if you have tested for anti-bodies (not readily available yet) and are immune - how do you prove it??
2) What if you test negative after x number of days (is it 7??) Do U receive a get out of jail card - if so where from?
3) Did not find out if I could verify the concept of FIFO (First In First Out) data handling on a rolling 14 day basis.
4) Does the app's use include being punitive - so you can be proven to have gone to XYZ after being contacted and quarantined?? Because app is likely to be deleted or phone left at home by a reasonable number of people...

What I am bemused by is the benefits of doing the publicity about this app right first time, taking second place to who thinks they should be promoting this APP.
If you are suspicious or swayed by popular media noise then you are not sticking your hand out saying - give-me
If you did not vote for the Liberals or do not like Morrison there is a fair chance you are not sticking your hand out saying Give-me either
and there are others... you just have to wonder...

Paddles B'mere
QLD, 3586 posts
27 Apr 2020 5:51PM
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We all installed it earlier today on Android and it worked fine.

kato
VIC, 3510 posts
27 Apr 2020 7:02PM
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Done, no issues

kk
WA, 953 posts
27 Apr 2020 5:32PM
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It's a shame the government feels the need to lie to the public so much, why can't they just tell the truth?

Then people would trust them when it is really quite important.

FormulaNova
WA, 15090 posts
27 Apr 2020 5:35PM
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AquaPlow said..

What I am bemused by is the benefits of doing the publicity about this app right first time, taking second place to who thinks they should be promoting this APP.
If you are suspicious or swayed by popular media noise then you are not sticking your hand out saying - give-me
If you did not vote for the Liberals or do not like Morrison there is a fair chance you are not sticking your hand out saying Give-me either
and there are others... you just have to wonder...



I only saw that it was released when I read reports of heaps of people already installing it.

Weird that I never seemed to notice advertising for it, but maybe I was watching the wrong shows?

The thing that surprised me that even after typing exactly the correct name into the play store, it couldn't find it first go. I had to find an online ad for it, and then kick the install off from there.

Either way, it installed fine, and I hope the govt don't find out that I didn't vote for them at the last election. That will break their hearts!

I think these apps have the chance of catching small outbreaks quickly, which means the chance of us going back to a normalish economy is much more likley. I don't care who released it, I don't care about the politics, just do it.

Hopefully a lot of people feel the same about it, and install it. PM33 doesn't need to, as he has neither a phone nor reception as I am sure he is now moving to Coober Pedy to escape the watchful eye of the govt.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
27 Apr 2020 7:52PM
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Over a million have downloaded in the first few hours.

busterwa
3782 posts
27 Apr 2020 11:55PM
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Yeah im worried about internet security and giving the goverment secure protected pesonal information about myself , so i thought i just join facebook and upload my fambily photos phone number email address and the location of the last place i took a **** at to multiple multinational private business insted.

petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
28 Apr 2020 12:13AM
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I am just so surprised FN choose to download the app

He would jump off a cliff if they said its for our benefit.

FormulaNova
WA, 15090 posts
28 Apr 2020 8:05AM
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petermac33 said..
I am just so surprised FN choose to download the app

He would jump off a cliff if they said its for our benefit.



FN approach to jumping off a cliff:

Look down cliff. Understand how high up you are and what to look out for. Attach parachute. Jump off cliff and steer to safety.

PM approach to jumping off a cliff:

Watch youtube video about what a cliff is. Watch more youtube videos about how dangerous cliffs are. Watch more youtube videos about how cliffs are probably not real. Make sure not to visit cliff to check it out for real. Don't jump from cliff, but make sure to tell everyone else that they are sheep for jumping off the cliff. Sit at home and ponder if you know what a cliff actually is.

mazdon
1198 posts
28 Apr 2020 9:51AM
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FormulaNova said..

petermac33 said..
I am just so surprised FN choose to download the app

He would jump off a cliff if they said its for our benefit.




FN approach to jumping off a cliff:

Look down cliff. Understand how high up you are and what to look out for. Attach parachute. Jump off cliff and steer to safety.

PM approach to jumping off a cliff:

Watch youtube video about what a cliff is. Watch more youtube videos about how dangerous cliffs are. Watch more youtube videos about how cliffs are probably not real. Make sure not to visit cliff to check it out for real. Don't jump from cliff, but make sure to tell everyone else that they are sheep for jumping off the cliff. Sit at home and ponder if all the sheeple will ever realise that they don't actually know what a cliff actually is, and feel smug about being so insightful and knowledgable. then turn back to you tube...


fixed it for you!

Paddles B'mere
QLD, 3586 posts
28 Apr 2020 12:15PM
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Name, age bracket and other app users in proximity to me ....................................... it's hardly an invasion of privacy. If they'd branded it as "Pokemon" even Barnaby may have signed up for it

Harrow
NSW, 4521 posts
28 Apr 2020 12:41PM
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You're asking the wrong question. The COVID-19 app needs you to leave Bluetooth turned on all the time. The real question is then "Would you give up mobile battery life to tackle COVID-19?"

FormulaNova
WA, 15090 posts
28 Apr 2020 11:03AM
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Harrow said..
You're asking the wrong question. The COVID-19 app needs you to leave Bluetooth turned on all the time. The real question is then "Would you give up mobile battery life to tackle COVID-19?"


You won't be that far from a charger!

In fact for a lot of people, they may as well leave it plugged in all the time.

nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
28 Apr 2020 11:26AM
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It would be great if it worked properly on iOS -- as it is, it needs to be in the foreground all the time. This is due to iOS not wanting weird 3rd party apps to kill your battery life by interrogating bluetooth all the time.
So you do the right thing by installing the app, then, say, use your phone to browse the web, go on facebook, whatever... and now the covid app is not recording bluetooth ids.

Apple are working on a solution to this, but right now, the app doesn't work properly on iOS.

Strange that this information isn't more widespread.

Paddles B'mere
QLD, 3586 posts
28 Apr 2020 1:47PM
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Isn't it fairly normal to leave bluetooth on?

woko
NSW, 1768 posts
4 May 2020 7:06PM
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Testing testing. I thought to down load the app to help get the numbers up so they would open the pubs up again and after an afternoon of frustration I've got the the internet working again but still no app ! I tried !

petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
14 Jun 2020 10:30PM
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EPL fans may have to agree to take a blood test to be allowed entry.

You cant possibly make this stuff up.

www.thisisanfield.com/2020/06/premier-league-could-use-covid-19-passports-to-get-fans-back-into-games/

Subsonic
WA, 3374 posts
14 Jun 2020 10:49PM
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petermac33 said..
EPL fans may have to agree to take a blood test to be allowed entry.

You cant possibly make this stuff up.

www.thisisanfield.com/2020/06/premier-league-could-use-covid-19-passports-to-get-fans-back-into-games/



Its a choice. You want to go watch the footy in person, you do the test.

Im not for enforced population wide big brother type surveillance of any level for any reason. But there's nothing wrong with asking people to in the interests of public safety, and nothing wrong with setting some rules if people want to participate in an organised event like going to a footy match. You can simply choose not to go.

FormulaNova
WA, 15090 posts
15 Jun 2020 1:12PM
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Subsonic said..

petermac33 said..
EPL fans may have to agree to take a blood test to be allowed entry.

You cant possibly make this stuff up.

www.thisisanfield.com/2020/06/premier-league-could-use-covid-19-passports-to-get-fans-back-into-games/




Its a choice. You want to go watch the footy in person, you do the test.

Im not for enforced population wide big brother type surveillance of any level for any reason. But there's nothing wrong with asking people to in the interests of public safety, and nothing wrong with setting some rules if people want to participate in an organised event like going to a footy match. You can simply choose not to go.


Yeah, easy choice to make. Want to watch football and not get Covid19, take a blood test and reduce your chances.

Want to avoid a bloodtest, stay at home and watch it on TV.

I think people are quickly forgetting we are still in a pandemic and that we are still risking things if we do not take precautions. Attending a football match is hardly a necessity, so its the indvidual's choice.

Paddles B'mere
QLD, 3586 posts
15 Jun 2020 3:28PM
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I can see a brave new world where you may need to be using the COVID-19 app to be able to enter an entertainment venue or fly on a plane

petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
15 Jun 2020 1:43PM
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Giving up your freedom - 2 minutes


FormulaNova
WA, 15090 posts
15 Jun 2020 2:18PM
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Paddles B'mere said..
I can see a brave new world where you may need to be using the COVID-19 app to be able to enter an entertainment venue or fly on a plane


They put in place legislation specifically to prevent people getting worried about that... which is a shame as I think it has merit. I would much prefer being able to mingle freely knowing that any outbreak should be able to track those at risk much quicker.

Instead, what we get is a half conceived app, people paranoid about the government knowing that they went to Oportos twelve times in one week, and that we have a situation where some people are using, but some are not.

I wouldn't even mind if some places had the ability to insist that when you enter a place that you provide them a snapshot of your credentials so that they can contact you if needed, and then tracked exactly who you were near in that place and passed that information along on request, and told you when it was requested. This would mean you could go to larger gatherings but still have some certainty that everyone can be traced if needed.

FormulaNova
WA, 15090 posts
15 Jun 2020 2:22PM
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Giving up your freedom - 2 minutes




Wow, I would hate to be in NZ under this 'regime'. Virus free for the moment and able to return to an almost 100% normal society.

Poor bastards.

They should be like the land of the free and home of the brave.

petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
15 Jun 2020 2:46PM
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I wouldn't even mind if some places had the ability to insist that when you enter a place that you provide them a snapshot of your credentials so that they can contact you if needed, and then tracked exactly who you were near in that place and passed that information along on request, and told you when it was requested. This would mean you could go to larger gatherings but still have some certainty that everyone can be traced if needed.

FormulaNova
WA, 15090 posts
15 Jun 2020 4:29PM
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petermac33 said..

I wouldn't even mind if some places had the ability to insist that when you enter a place that you provide them a snapshot of your credentials so that they can contact you if needed, and then tracked exactly who you were near in that place and passed that information along on request, and told you when it was requested. This would mean you could go to larger gatherings but still have some certainty that everyone can be traced if needed.




When checking this on my work machine where they filter all Youtube content, it looks like you have nothing to say on the topic... or any topic, ever.

FormulaNova
WA, 15090 posts
15 Jun 2020 5:14PM
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FormulaNova said..

petermac33 said..


I wouldn't even mind if some places had the ability to insist that when you enter a place that you provide them a snapshot of your credentials so that they can contact you if needed, and then tracked exactly who you were near in that place and passed that information along on request, and told you when it was requested. This would mean you could go to larger gatherings but still have some certainty that everyone can be traced if needed.






When checking this on my work machine where they filter all Youtube content, it looks like you have nothing to say on the topic... or any topic, ever.


Sorry, I just used my personal machine to check it again, and now I can see the Youtube.

I see you are quoting Henry Makow again.



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