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japie
NSW, 7145 posts
26 Aug 2021 3:00PM
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As it says in the link, questions now being asked in the MSM.

Great news. (Well for some of us.)

Contained within:

Here's how the very unexpected Bloomberg article, which was published this past weekend, began:Anecdotes tell us what the data can't: Vaccinated people appear to be getting the coronavirus at a surprisingly high rate.But exactly how often isn't clear, nor is it certain how likely they are to spread the virus to others. Though it is evident vaccination still provides powerful protection against the virus, there's growing concern that vaccinated people may be more vulnerable to serious illness than previously thought.
And the same day as the BBG headline, there was this from UK government-funded BBC..."Is catching Covid now better than more vaccine?"

Even The Daily Beast, which has spent much of the pandemic shaming the 'vaccine hesitant' is now admitting that "ultra-vaxxed" Israel is now seeing numbers of infections skyrocket...

www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/even-mainstream-media-now-asking-big-questions-about-covid-vaccines

D3
WA, 1506 posts
26 Aug 2021 1:11PM
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D3 said..




kiterboy said..
Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34145166/

Conclusions: Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.




'Therapeutic advances: Meta-analysis of 15 trials found that ivermectin reduced risk of death compared with no ivermectin'

That's 15 out of 24 trials that they included in their review.

What did the other 9 show?




Well the authors stated they used the GRADE approach.
The GRADE approach (Grading of Recommendations Assessment, Development and Evaluation) is a method of assessing the certainty in evidence (also known as quality of evidence or confidence in effect estimates) and the strength of recommendations in health care.

Perhaps those 9 trials were lacking/not robust enough in their data collection or smaller sample sizes etc, to not warrant inclusion in the meta-analysis.


I'm not the person to figure that bit out.

However I did read the bit where they say they included 3 prophylaxis trials.
One of those prophylaxis trials was the Elgazzar trial that has been pulled from pre-print due to ethical concerns.

Just doesn't change the lack confidence I have in some of the data you guys keep quoting

D3
WA, 1506 posts
26 Aug 2021 1:19PM
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japie said..
As it says in the link, questions now being asked in the MSM.

Great news. (Well for some of us.)

Contained within:

Here's how the very unexpected Bloomberg article, which was published this past weekend, began:Anecdotes tell us what the data can't: Vaccinated people appear to be getting the coronavirus at a surprisingly high rate.But exactly how often isn't clear, nor is it certain how likely they are to spread the virus to others. Though it is evident vaccination still provides powerful protection against the virus, there's growing concern that vaccinated people may be more vulnerable to serious illness than previously thought.
And the same day as the BBG headline, there was this from UK government-funded BBC..."Is catching Covid now better than more vaccine?"

Even The Daily Beast, which has spent much of the pandemic shaming the 'vaccine hesitant' is now admitting that "ultra-vaxxed" Israel is now seeing numbers of infections skyrocket...

www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/even-mainstream-media-now-asking-big-questions-about-covid-vaccines


Yep, but in the last two weeks or so in Israel, vaccinated cases started declining while unvaccinated are still increasing. They started 3rd dose at end of July.

eppo
WA, 9759 posts
26 Aug 2021 1:30PM
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eppo said..




lotofwind said..
Did your missus let you write that eppo, lol







Bhahahahaa ha

When i make a decision - and talk it gets done. Otherwise i STFU at all costs. Little secret for marriage for you all.





So are you going to let your missus tell your son he has to partake in the world wide government culling of humans. lol
Havent you seen the massive evidence that this has all been coordinated to kill everyone that gets the jab?
I can understand you let the missus get it, but not your son.
I guess your problem now is, whos going to make your sandwiches?


My point is nobody really knows. That is the middle grey ground we are in.

kiterboy
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26 Aug 2021 1:52PM
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D3 said..

japie said..
As it says in the link, questions now being asked in the MSM.

Great news. (Well for some of us.)

Contained within:

Here's how the very unexpected Bloomberg article, which was published this past weekend, began:Anecdotes tell us what the data can't: Vaccinated people appear to be getting the coronavirus at a surprisingly high rate.But exactly how often isn't clear, nor is it certain how likely they are to spread the virus to others. Though it is evident vaccination still provides powerful protection against the virus, there's growing concern that vaccinated people may be more vulnerable to serious illness than previously thought.
And the same day as the BBG headline, there was this from UK government-funded BBC..."Is catching Covid now better than more vaccine?"

Even The Daily Beast, which has spent much of the pandemic shaming the 'vaccine hesitant' is now admitting that "ultra-vaxxed" Israel is now seeing numbers of infections skyrocket...

www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/even-mainstream-media-now-asking-big-questions-about-covid-vaccines



Yep, but in the last two weeks or so in Israel, vaccinated cases started declining while unvaccinated are still increasing. They started 3rd dose at end of July.


That's not what I've heard.

Pugwash
WA, 7729 posts
26 Aug 2021 3:21PM
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kiterboy said..


D3 said..



japie said..
As it says in the link, questions now being asked in the MSM.

Great news. (Well for some of us.)

Contained within:

Here's how the very unexpected Bloomberg article, which was published this past weekend, began:Anecdotes tell us what the data can't: Vaccinated people appear to be getting the coronavirus at a surprisingly high rate.But exactly how often isn't clear, nor is it certain how likely they are to spread the virus to others. Though it is evident vaccination still provides powerful protection against the virus, there's growing concern that vaccinated people may be more vulnerable to serious illness than previously thought.
And the same day as the BBG headline, there was this from UK government-funded BBC..."Is catching Covid now better than more vaccine?"

Even The Daily Beast, which has spent much of the pandemic shaming the 'vaccine hesitant' is now admitting that "ultra-vaxxed" Israel is now seeing numbers of infections skyrocket...

www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/even-mainstream-media-now-asking-big-questions-about-covid-vaccines





Yep, but in the last two weeks or so in Israel, vaccinated cases started declining while unvaccinated are still increasing. They started 3rd dose at end of July.




That's not what I've heard.



Well, why not look at the data yourself... you know, DYOR... the information is publicly available: datadashboard.health.gov.il/COVID-19/general

kiterboy
2614 posts
26 Aug 2021 3:40PM
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Pugwash said..

kiterboy said..


D3 said..



japie said..
As it says in the link, questions now being asked in the MSM.

Great news. (Well for some of us.)

Contained within:

Here's how the very unexpected Bloomberg article, which was published this past weekend, began:Anecdotes tell us what the data can't: Vaccinated people appear to be getting the coronavirus at a surprisingly high rate.But exactly how often isn't clear, nor is it certain how likely they are to spread the virus to others. Though it is evident vaccination still provides powerful protection against the virus, there's growing concern that vaccinated people may be more vulnerable to serious illness than previously thought.
And the same day as the BBG headline, there was this from UK government-funded BBC..."Is catching Covid now better than more vaccine?"

Even The Daily Beast, which has spent much of the pandemic shaming the 'vaccine hesitant' is now admitting that "ultra-vaxxed" Israel is now seeing numbers of infections skyrocket...

www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/even-mainstream-media-now-asking-big-questions-about-covid-vaccines





Yep, but in the last two weeks or so in Israel, vaccinated cases started declining while unvaccinated are still increasing. They started 3rd dose at end of July.




That's not what I've heard.



Well, why not look at the data yourself... you know, DYOR... the information is publicly available: datadashboard.health.gov.il/COVID-19/general


I wasn't asking a question.

Pugwash
WA, 7729 posts
26 Aug 2021 3:57PM
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Pugwash said..



kiterboy said..




D3 said..





japie said..
As it says in the link, questions now being asked in the MSM.

Great news. (Well for some of us.)

Contained within:

Here's how the very unexpected Bloomberg article, which was published this past weekend, began:Anecdotes tell us what the data can't: Vaccinated people appear to be getting the coronavirus at a surprisingly high rate.But exactly how often isn't clear, nor is it certain how likely they are to spread the virus to others. Though it is evident vaccination still provides powerful protection against the virus, there's growing concern that vaccinated people may be more vulnerable to serious illness than previously thought.
And the same day as the BBG headline, there was this from UK government-funded BBC..."Is catching Covid now better than more vaccine?"

Even The Daily Beast, which has spent much of the pandemic shaming the 'vaccine hesitant' is now admitting that "ultra-vaxxed" Israel is now seeing numbers of infections skyrocket...

www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/even-mainstream-media-now-asking-big-questions-about-covid-vaccines







Yep, but in the last two weeks or so in Israel, vaccinated cases started declining while unvaccinated are still increasing. They started 3rd dose at end of July.






That's not what I've heard.





Well, why not look at the data yourself... you know, DYOR... the information is publicly available: datadashboard.health.gov.il/COVID-19/general




I wasn't asking a question.



There was no suggestion you were asking a question. You were provided with a link to the information to which you referred. It shows (clearly) that you are wrong.

If the information isn't aligned with the voices you hear or what you want to believe, well, that's up to you.

Harrow
NSW, 4521 posts
26 Aug 2021 6:03PM
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Is this guy saying his business doesn't qualify for JobSaver because he ran a cash business and didn't declare all his profits in 2019?

www.news.com.au/finance/business/retail/sydney-covid-hot-spots-how-businesses-and-people-are-coping-with-tough-restrictions/news-story/613f6b6255c54bd97768d96a1b4af7da

psychojoe
WA, 2239 posts
26 Aug 2021 4:13PM
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When Japie talks about the long term side effects of the Vax I haven't really been concerned but this new study about antibiotics serves as a cautionary tale-------
Previous studies in humans have linked antibiotics to a litany of long-term health effects; but have often shown varying results between different individuals and different studies.

And then the bottom link is a potential short term side effect of the Vax.
I'm trying to remain provax all the way but unless you have Alpha circulating in your area, by which time it might be too late, then it's getting harder to see the point.

medicalxpress.com/news/2021-08-microbiome-antibiotics-early-life-shown.html

www.australiannationalreview.com/covid-19-deaths-and-injuries/louie-knuxx-42-year-old-new-zealand-hip-hop-artist-mocks-lockdown-protesters-dead-28-days-after-second-pfizer-mrna-injection/

kiterboy
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26 Aug 2021 4:38PM
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Pugwash said..

kiterboy said..



Pugwash said..




kiterboy said..





D3 said..






japie said..
As it says in the link, questions now being asked in the MSM.

Great news. (Well for some of us.)

Contained within:

Here's how the very unexpected Bloomberg article, which was published this past weekend, began:Anecdotes tell us what the data can't: Vaccinated people appear to be getting the coronavirus at a surprisingly high rate.But exactly how often isn't clear, nor is it certain how likely they are to spread the virus to others. Though it is evident vaccination still provides powerful protection against the virus, there's growing concern that vaccinated people may be more vulnerable to serious illness than previously thought.
And the same day as the BBG headline, there was this from UK government-funded BBC..."Is catching Covid now better than more vaccine?"

Even The Daily Beast, which has spent much of the pandemic shaming the 'vaccine hesitant' is now admitting that "ultra-vaxxed" Israel is now seeing numbers of infections skyrocket...

www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/even-mainstream-media-now-asking-big-questions-about-covid-vaccines








Yep, but in the last two weeks or so in Israel, vaccinated cases started declining while unvaccinated are still increasing. They started 3rd dose at end of July.







That's not what I've heard.






Well, why not look at the data yourself... you know, DYOR... the information is publicly available: datadashboard.health.gov.il/COVID-19/general





I wasn't asking a question.




There was no suggestion you were asking a question. You were provided with a link to the information to which you referred. It shows (clearly) that you are wrong.

If the information isn't aligned with the voices you hear or what you want to believe, well, that's up to you.


Thanks Brainwash.

First of all, it's not a link.
Second, are you aware of who they classify as unvaxxed over there now?

FlySurfer
NSW, 4460 posts
26 Aug 2021 6:45PM
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FlySurfer
NSW, 4460 posts
26 Aug 2021 6:51PM
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Correspondent and Producer for Australia's Channel Seven Network Denham Hitchcock, who had last year interviewed several anti-lockdown protestors and delved deep down into the 'resistance movement', is now in hospital with heart inflammation following his first dose of Pfizer. He is warned recovery could now take months and his life may never be the same.

Why did he take it? Well in a lengthy Instagram caption, he truly thought there is no other way to reclaim the freedoms the government has taken from us. He even admitted that this isn't an isolated case, and that there are several just in the hospital where he is at.


source: www.instagram.com/p/CTBCWyyBhaI/

denhamhitchcock
I've battled over whether to send this post from hospital or not.
But decided after 27 years of being a journalist who's primary goal is to discover the truth - it would be hypocritical not to.
disclaimer first - I'm NOT anti vax. But I'm really not pro vax either. I'm pro choice - and pro information to make that choice.
above all I'm PRO opening the bloody country up and to do that I don't see any way around getting the majority of Australia vaccinated.
So I got the Pfizer shot.
The first week was like any vaccine. Feeling off.
But nearing the end of the second week my heart started to race, I was getting pins and needles in the arms, extreme fatigue and a very strange sensation of dizziness. I took nurofen, and I kept working.
By the end of the third week i was getting steadily worse - sharp chest pain - cold shivers and chills - and the dizziness was intense.
25 days after the shot and probably a little late to hospital - but here I am - diagnosed with pericarditis - or inflammation of the heart due to the Pfizer vaccine.
Since being here I've contacted health professionals I know in Sydney and while It's rare - it's certainly not isolated. One hospital has had well over a dozen cases like me.
This is not a post for sympathy - the hospital and staff at the Gold Coast uni hospital have been beyond great and although it's all new territory I'm told I'll make a full recovery although I could be like this for months.
Thankfully I have the worlds smallest nurse keeping an eye on my ever present ECG.
But my present thought would be - in the current vaccine frenzy, no one is talking about this but it's clearly happening - and if you want the vaccine and have any heart history it would be worth talking to your GP about your vaccine choice, especially as AZ is readily available and does not have this side effect.
If you don't want the vaccine - i don't have a problem with that either - but life and travel will get difficult for you.
The only thing for me that's dead certain - if they don't open Australia up when we reach their milestone of 70% - then there will be a lot more people marching in the street. You want the trust ? Keep your damn promise.

Pugwash
WA, 7729 posts
26 Aug 2021 5:01PM
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kiterboy said..

Pugwash said..


kiterboy said..




Pugwash said..





kiterboy said..






D3 said..







japie said..
As it says in the link, questions now being asked in the MSM.

Great news. (Well for some of us.)

Contained within:

Here's how the very unexpected Bloomberg article, which was published this past weekend, began:Anecdotes tell us what the data can't: Vaccinated people appear to be getting the coronavirus at a surprisingly high rate.But exactly how often isn't clear, nor is it certain how likely they are to spread the virus to others. Though it is evident vaccination still provides powerful protection against the virus, there's growing concern that vaccinated people may be more vulnerable to serious illness than previously thought.
And the same day as the BBG headline, there was this from UK government-funded BBC..."Is catching Covid now better than more vaccine?"

Even The Daily Beast, which has spent much of the pandemic shaming the 'vaccine hesitant' is now admitting that "ultra-vaxxed" Israel is now seeing numbers of infections skyrocket...

www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/even-mainstream-media-now-asking-big-questions-about-covid-vaccines









Yep, but in the last two weeks or so in Israel, vaccinated cases started declining while unvaccinated are still increasing. They started 3rd dose at end of July.








That's not what I've heard.







Well, why not look at the data yourself... you know, DYOR... the information is publicly available: datadashboard.health.gov.il/COVID-19/general






I wasn't asking a question.





There was no suggestion you were asking a question. You were provided with a link to the information to which you referred. It shows (clearly) that you are wrong.

If the information isn't aligned with the voices you hear or what you want to believe, well, that's up to you.



Thanks Brainwash.

First of all, it's not a link.
Second, are you aware of who they classify as unvaxxed over there now?


Oops, it appears that you have become upset... I am sorry... It's OK, I'm not upset by your petty insults and I know that it is just an attempted diversion now that you have seen the data and know you are wrong...

japie
NSW, 7145 posts
26 Aug 2021 7:02PM
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^^^Likely there's a few who said last year that this was an attempt at control through mass vaccination might be saying I told you so.

psychojoe
WA, 2239 posts
26 Aug 2021 5:11PM
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Has anyone told her these vaccines are looking more and more pointless every day
www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.22.457114v1

FlySurfer
NSW, 4460 posts
26 Aug 2021 7:15PM
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japie said..^^^Likely there's a few who said last year that this was an attempt at control through mass vaccination might be saying I told you so.

Last year? I know somebody who's been ridiculed about his "vaccine conspiracy theories" for the past 22yrs.

kiterboy
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26 Aug 2021 5:20PM
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Pugwash said..

kiterboy said..


Pugwash said..



kiterboy said..





Pugwash said..






kiterboy said..







D3 said..








japie said..
As it says in the link, questions now being asked in the MSM.

Great news. (Well for some of us.)

Contained within:

Here's how the very unexpected Bloomberg article, which was published this past weekend, began:Anecdotes tell us what the data can't: Vaccinated people appear to be getting the coronavirus at a surprisingly high rate.But exactly how often isn't clear, nor is it certain how likely they are to spread the virus to others. Though it is evident vaccination still provides powerful protection against the virus, there's growing concern that vaccinated people may be more vulnerable to serious illness than previously thought.
And the same day as the BBG headline, there was this from UK government-funded BBC..."Is catching Covid now better than more vaccine?"

Even The Daily Beast, which has spent much of the pandemic shaming the 'vaccine hesitant' is now admitting that "ultra-vaxxed" Israel is now seeing numbers of infections skyrocket...

www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/even-mainstream-media-now-asking-big-questions-about-covid-vaccines










Yep, but in the last two weeks or so in Israel, vaccinated cases started declining while unvaccinated are still increasing. They started 3rd dose at end of July.









That's not what I've heard.








Well, why not look at the data yourself... you know, DYOR... the information is publicly available: datadashboard.health.gov.il/COVID-19/general







I wasn't asking a question.






There was no suggestion you were asking a question. You were provided with a link to the information to which you referred. It shows (clearly) that you are wrong.

If the information isn't aligned with the voices you hear or what you want to believe, well, that's up to you.




Thanks Brainwash.

First of all, it's not a link.
Second, are you aware of who they classify as unvaxxed over there now?



Oops, it appears that you have become upset... I am sorry... It's OK, I'm not upset by your petty insults and I know that it is just an attempted diversion now that you have seen the data and know you are wrong...


Don't play with yourself just yet, you've go to do better than the nothing you just did.

You still have no idea about what is 'unvaxxed' over there.

Still waiting for a link.

MickPC
8266 posts
26 Aug 2021 5:27PM
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I'm far more fearful of the vaccines than of c19 given I'm not obese, not immune system compromised or have respiratory system issues...

Popped in to find a link some legend shared a few days back but was unable to find it here. Buried or another censored post, we really need far more transparency on this topic.

But anyway I was able to find it again, here ya go people.

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rumble.com/vllnya-freedom-rally-darwin-nt-extended-footage.html
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psychojoe
WA, 2239 posts
26 Aug 2021 5:43PM
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MickPC said..
I'm far more fearful of the vaccines than of c19 given I'm not obese, not immune system compromised or have respiratory system issues...

Popped in to find a link some legend shared a few days back but was unable to find it here. Buried or another censored post, we really need far more transparency on this topic.

But anyway I was able to find it again, here ya go people.

***********************************************************************
rumble.com/vllnya-freedom-rally-darwin-nt-extended-footage.html
***********************************************************************


48minutes?!
Something probably happened, I don't know, I felt myself get older watching it.

D3
WA, 1506 posts
26 Aug 2021 5:45PM
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eppo said..
So a real life anecdotal insight. Wife has my 13yr old son booked to get the jab. He is immunio compromised hence qualifies. So as usual i sit there quietly and say nothing (because shes knows i dont talk unless necessary - I think then make a decision).

so i did and eventually came to the conclusion "i just dont know!". There is no way with the current information/ data out there to know what isnt corrupted (on both sides) and even if it is not, there is no conclusive positions that can be taken.




so i kept quiet.


Hey Eppo, I've been reading some of the stuff 'your local epidemiologist' has been compiling.

She covers a lot of info about young people and immuno-compromised.

Take it or leave it. She doesn't sugar coat the data to lean one way or the other

japie
NSW, 7145 posts
26 Aug 2021 7:48PM
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FlySurfer said..


Correspondent and Producer for Australia's Channel Seven Network Denham Hitchcock, who had last year interviewed several anti-lockdown protestors and delved deep down into the 'resistance movement', is now in hospital with heart inflammation following his first dose of Pfizer. He is warned recovery could now take months and his life may never be the same.

Why did he take it? Well in a lengthy Instagram caption, he truly thought there is no other way to reclaim the freedoms the government has taken from us. He even admitted that this isn't an isolated case, and that there are several just in the hospital where he is at.


source: www.instagram.com/p/CTBCWyyBhaI/

denhamhitchcock
I've battled over whether to send this post from hospital or not.
But decided after 27 years of being a journalist who's primary goal is to discover the truth - it would be hypocritical not to.
disclaimer first - I'm NOT anti vax. But I'm really not pro vax either. I'm pro choice - and pro information to make that choice.
above all I'm PRO opening the bloody country up and to do that I don't see any way around getting the majority of Australia vaccinated.
So I got the Pfizer shot.
The first week was like any vaccine. Feeling off.
But nearing the end of the second week my heart started to race, I was getting pins and needles in the arms, extreme fatigue and a very strange sensation of dizziness. I took nurofen, and I kept working.
By the end of the third week i was getting steadily worse - sharp chest pain - cold shivers and chills - and the dizziness was intense.
25 days after the shot and probably a little late to hospital - but here I am - diagnosed with pericarditis - or inflammation of the heart due to the Pfizer vaccine.
Since being here I've contacted health professionals I know in Sydney and while It's rare - it's certainly not isolated. One hospital has had well over a dozen cases like me.
This is not a post for sympathy - the hospital and staff at the Gold Coast uni hospital have been beyond great and although it's all new territory I'm told I'll make a full recovery although I could be like this for months.
Thankfully I have the worlds smallest nurse keeping an eye on my ever present ECG.
But my present thought would be - in the current vaccine frenzy, no one is talking about this but it's clearly happening - and if you want the vaccine and have any heart history it would be worth talking to your GP about your vaccine choice, especially as AZ is readily available and does not have this side effect.
If you don't want the vaccine - i don't have a problem with that either - but life and travel will get difficult for you.
The only thing for me that's dead certain - if they don't open Australia up when we reach their milestone of 70% - then there will be a lot more people marching in the street. You want the trust ? Keep your damn promise.


Poor bastard.

"If you don't have the vaccine life and travel will get difficult for you"

Kiting in his case is now impossible.

MickPC
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26 Aug 2021 5:55PM
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psychojoe said..

MickPC said..
I'm far more fearful of the vaccines than of c19 given I'm not obese, not immune system compromised or have respiratory system issues...

Popped in to find a link some legend shared a few days back but was unable to find it here. Buried or another censored post, we really need far more transparency on this topic.

But anyway I was able to find it again, here ya go people.

***********************************************************************
rumble.com/vllnya-freedom-rally-darwin-nt-extended-footage.html
***********************************************************************



48minutes?!
Something probably happened, I don't know, I felt myself get older watching it.


www.webmd.com/add-adhd/short-attention-spans I wish you well

japie
NSW, 7145 posts
26 Aug 2021 7:58PM
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FlySurfer said..

japie said..^^^Likely there's a few who said last year that this was an attempt at control through mass vaccination might be saying I told you so.


Last year? I know somebody who's being ridiculed about his "vaccine conspiracy theories" for the past 22yrs.


Well so do I but I meant on here!

See that press update makes no mention of family which they usually do.

Which probably means that people includes family.

Or more importantly excludes them if they are not vaccinated.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
26 Aug 2021 8:00PM
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FlySurfer said..


Correspondent and Producer for Australia's Channel Seven Network Denham Hitchcock, who had last year interviewed several anti-lockdown protestors and delved deep down into the 'resistance movement', is now in hospital with heart inflammation following his first dose of Pfizer. He is warned recovery could now take months and his life may never be the same.

Why did he take it? Well in a lengthy Instagram caption, he truly thought there is no other way to reclaim the freedoms the government has taken from us. He even admitted that this isn't an isolated case, and that there are several just in the hospital where he is at.


source: www.instagram.com/p/CTBCWyyBhaI/

denhamhitchcock
I've battled over whether to send this post from hospital or not.
But decided after 27 years of being a journalist who's primary goal is to discover the truth - it would be hypocritical not to.
disclaimer first - I'm NOT anti vax. But I'm really not pro vax either. I'm pro choice - and pro information to make that choice.
above all I'm PRO opening the bloody country up and to do that I don't see any way around getting the majority of Australia vaccinated.
So I got the Pfizer shot.
The first week was like any vaccine. Feeling off.
But nearing the end of the second week my heart started to race, I was getting pins and needles in the arms, extreme fatigue and a very strange sensation of dizziness. I took nurofen, and I kept working.
By the end of the third week i was getting steadily worse - sharp chest pain - cold shivers and chills - and the dizziness was intense.
25 days after the shot and probably a little late to hospital - but here I am - diagnosed with pericarditis - or inflammation of the heart due to the Pfizer vaccine.
Since being here I've contacted health professionals I know in Sydney and while It's rare - it's certainly not isolated. One hospital has had well over a dozen cases like me.
This is not a post for sympathy - the hospital and staff at the Gold Coast uni hospital have been beyond great and although it's all new territory I'm told I'll make a full recovery although I could be like this for months.
Thankfully I have the worlds smallest nurse keeping an eye on my ever present ECG.
But my present thought would be - in the current vaccine frenzy, no one is talking about this but it's clearly happening - and if you want the vaccine and have any heart history it would be worth talking to your GP about your vaccine choice, especially as AZ is readily available and does not have this side effect.
If you don't want the vaccine - i don't have a problem with that either - but life and travel will get difficult for you.
The only thing for me that's dead certain - if they don't open Australia up when we reach their milestone of 70% - then there will be a lot more people marching in the street. You want the trust ? Keep your damn promise.



You missed the important bit he was trying to tell you japie, Im sure that was accidental.
if you want the vaccine and have any heart history it would be worth talking to your GP about your vaccine choice, especially as AZ is readily available and does not have this side effect.

Which we all already know and has been said by every Doc and gov. since day one, talk to your GP.

But his case dosent count for anything, going by your logic, as he has a family history and an under lying history of heart problems.

waynos
TAS, 171 posts
26 Aug 2021 8:10PM
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lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
26 Aug 2021 8:23PM
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I'm far more fearful of the vaccines than of c19 given I'm not obese, not immune system compromised or have respiratory system issues...

Popped in to find a link some legend shared a few days back but was unable to find it here. Buried or another censored post, we really need far more transparency on this topic.

But anyway I was able to find it again, here ya go people.

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Aboriginal community complains they dont have to abide by Australia's laws, that are there to try to keep them safe.
Police officer agrees but asks them to make sure its non violent.

Aboriginal community gets wiped out from covid, then blames the gov. for not keeping them safe and asks for compensation.

Carantoc
WA, 7189 posts
26 Aug 2021 6:26PM
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Aboriginal community gets wiped out from covid....


nah he tweakin

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
26 Aug 2021 8:28PM
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lotofwind said..
You missed the important bit he was trying to tell you japie, Im sure that was accidental.
if you want the vaccine and have any heart history it would be worth talking to your GP about your vaccine choice, especially as AZ is readily available and does not have this side effect.

Which we all already know and has been said by every Doc and gov. since day one, talk to your GP.

But his case dosent count for anything, going by your logic, as he has a family history and an under lying history of heart problems.



Oh didn't realize you were a cardiologist or a GP...? If not, maybe you need to stay in your own lane. Like you keep telling the rest of us to do...

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
26 Aug 2021 8:32PM
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lotofwind said..
You missed the important bit he was trying to tell you japie, Im sure that was accidental.
if you want the vaccine and have any heart history it would be worth talking to your GP about your vaccine choice, especially as AZ is readily available and does not have this side effect.

Which we all already know and has been said by every Doc and gov. since day one, talk to your GP.

But his case dosent count for anything, going by your logic, as he has a family history and an under lying history of heart problems.






Oh didn't realize you were a cardiologist or a GP...? If not, maybe you need to stay in your own lane. Like you keep telling the rest of us to do...




???????? Ummmm no Im not, just quoting what this dude said ????? Seems he isnt a cardiologist or GP either, sooooo we shouldnt listen to him either

Or are you disagreeing with his advice of seeing a GP if you have a heart condition before getting a vax??

Seems pretty sound advice, but you dont think so??



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