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kiterboy
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6 Aug 2021 7:31PM
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psychomub said..
Anyone who still thinks we aren't being deceived and lied to about covid...

www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/twist-in-death-of-27yearold-covid19-patient-aude-alaskar/news-story/41af00b4dfc3eabdaaecb933402c9c93

This story started out as a perfectly healthy man who succumbed to the Rona, along with calls for everyone under 40 to be jabbed immediately.

So..it turns out he returned a negative C19 test the day before he died and had a history of heart conditions.

Still, he is listed as a Covid victim, and the headline still refers to him as a Covid patient despite the negative test.
















The article you refer to says "his family" had a history of heart problems, no mention of his heart situation.
He would have had previous tests as positive, that's why he was being treated for covid. Your article also explains the negative result.
The story started out about a man with covid, not someone "perfectly healthy"

But you are right on one point, we are being "deceived and lied to"...













'Mr Alaskar was being followed up daily by nursing staff and had relatively mild symptoms until he "suddenly deteriorated" around lunchtime on Tuesday...'

Why do you suppose he was being cared for by nursing staff if he only had relatively mild symptoms?












"He was being cared for by southwestern Sydney Local Health District during his isolation period and he'd reached day 13," Dr Chant said on Wednesday."He was being followed up daily by nursing staff and suddenly deteriorated. He was being checked daily and he did complain of feeling a little fatigued but the deterioration happened suddenly, is my understanding."

Apparently he was in the care of the district and obviously was getting daily follow up checks while isolating at home(phone calls etc).

But as this is main stream media, shouldn't everyone be dismissing the article outright instead of arguing about it. I mean isn't the whole story fabricated?









So how many other otherwise fully healthy people are getting daily nursing follow ups when they are at home with mild symptoms?








I don't know , how about you tell us captain innuendo....or does that ruin your narrative,being able to make a statement without some facts to back it up

You do that so well boi




Oh boi oh boi oh boi. You clearly don't know much.
Have you found out what nurses are for yet?



Kiterfraud still has nothing


Oh boi, sorry that you can't think for yourself, wispy.

chrispy
WA, 9675 posts
6 Aug 2021 7:36PM
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chrispy said..


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psychomub said..
Anyone who still thinks we aren't being deceived and lied to about covid...

www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/twist-in-death-of-27yearold-covid19-patient-aude-alaskar/news-story/41af00b4dfc3eabdaaecb933402c9c93

This story started out as a perfectly healthy man who succumbed to the Rona, along with calls for everyone under 40 to be jabbed immediately.

So..it turns out he returned a negative C19 test the day before he died and had a history of heart conditions.

Still, he is listed as a Covid victim, and the headline still refers to him as a Covid patient despite the negative test.

















The article you refer to says "his family" had a history of heart problems, no mention of his heart situation.
He would have had previous tests as positive, that's why he was being treated for covid. Your article also explains the negative result.
The story started out about a man with covid, not someone "perfectly healthy"

But you are right on one point, we are being "deceived and lied to"...














'Mr Alaskar was being followed up daily by nursing staff and had relatively mild symptoms until he "suddenly deteriorated" around lunchtime on Tuesday...'

Why do you suppose he was being cared for by nursing staff if he only had relatively mild symptoms?













"He was being cared for by southwestern Sydney Local Health District during his isolation period and he'd reached day 13," Dr Chant said on Wednesday."He was being followed up daily by nursing staff and suddenly deteriorated. He was being checked daily and he did complain of feeling a little fatigued but the deterioration happened suddenly, is my understanding."

Apparently he was in the care of the district and obviously was getting daily follow up checks while isolating at home(phone calls etc).

But as this is main stream media, shouldn't everyone be dismissing the article outright instead of arguing about it. I mean isn't the whole story fabricated?










So how many other otherwise fully healthy people are getting daily nursing follow ups when they are at home with mild symptoms?









I don't know , how about you tell us captain innuendo....or does that ruin your narrative,being able to make a statement without some facts to back it up

You do that so well boi





Oh boi oh boi oh boi. You clearly don't know much.
Have you found out what nurses are for yet?




Kiterfraud still has nothing



Oh boi, sorry that you can't think for yourself, wispy.


Says the boi who relies on memes for their education bahahaha

It is time for your nappy change kiterfraud

TonyAbbott
924 posts
6 Aug 2021 7:42PM
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snoidberg
QLD, 517 posts
6 Aug 2021 10:24PM
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I choose eating healthy, vitamin D3, K2, C, Quercetin and Zinc, mask exemption so i get plenty of oxygen, exercise and sunlight and as a precaution i have Ivermectin on hand.
I will pass on the so called vaccine the government, media and bill gates are so desperate to force us all to have because i don't think graphene oxide is a safe ingredient and turning my body into a spike protein factory dose not seem like a good thing considering the fact that the spike protein is a toxin.

If everyone just got on with their lives, took some steps to be healthier and we protected the vulnerable this could of passed by like an average flu season and we would have natural immunity to the next strain.

FormulaNova
WA, 15090 posts
6 Aug 2021 8:43PM
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I choose eating healthy, vitamin D3, K2, C, Quercetin and Zinc, mask exemption so i get plenty of oxygen, exercise and sunlight and as a precaution i have Ivermectin on hand.
I will pass on the so called vaccine the government, media and bill gates are so desperate to force us all to have because i don't think graphene oxide is a safe ingredient and turning my body into a spike protein factory dose not seem like a good thing considering the fact that the spike protein is a toxin.

If everyone just got on with their lives, took some steps to be healthier and we protected the vulnerable this could of passed by like an average flu season and we would have natural immunity to the next strain.


Wow. The spike protein is a toxin?

Are you going to have your Ivermectin with icecream? Apple flavor... yum!

You do know that the Ivermectin is meant to be used BEFORE you catch the SARS Cov2 virus, don't you?

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
6 Aug 2021 10:52PM
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Wow. The spike protein is a toxin?


Here I go again

www.aap.com.au/toxic-spike-protein-claims-misinterpret-vaccine-study/

TonyAbbott
924 posts
6 Aug 2021 8:56PM
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Good advice. In the early days of covid there was discussions about deficiencies of vitD in the people dying of covid. It made sense, as many of the elderly and sick people are bed bound, therefore low in vitD.

It's a pity that it isn't allowed to be discussed further. Well, atleast not unless saint fauci or some other social media ordained expert accepts healthy living, vitD, zinc etc and other nutrients are important fighting in preventing covid death and not just vaccines.

kiterboy
2614 posts
6 Aug 2021 10:15PM
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chrispy said..

kiterboy said..


chrispy said..



kiterboy said..




chrispy said..





kiterboy said..









bobajob said..










kiterboy said..













sgo said..














psychomub said..
Anyone who still thinks we aren't being deceived and lied to about covid...

www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/twist-in-death-of-27yearold-covid19-patient-aude-alaskar/news-story/41af00b4dfc3eabdaaecb933402c9c93

This story started out as a perfectly healthy man who succumbed to the Rona, along with calls for everyone under 40 to be jabbed immediately.

So..it turns out he returned a negative C19 test the day before he died and had a history of heart conditions.

Still, he is listed as a Covid victim, and the headline still refers to him as a Covid patient despite the negative test.


















The article you refer to says "his family" had a history of heart problems, no mention of his heart situation.
He would have had previous tests as positive, that's why he was being treated for covid. Your article also explains the negative result.
The story started out about a man with covid, not someone "perfectly healthy"

But you are right on one point, we are being "deceived and lied to"...















'Mr Alaskar was being followed up daily by nursing staff and had relatively mild symptoms until he "suddenly deteriorated" around lunchtime on Tuesday...'

Why do you suppose he was being cared for by nursing staff if he only had relatively mild symptoms?














"He was being cared for by southwestern Sydney Local Health District during his isolation period and he'd reached day 13," Dr Chant said on Wednesday."He was being followed up daily by nursing staff and suddenly deteriorated. He was being checked daily and he did complain of feeling a little fatigued but the deterioration happened suddenly, is my understanding."

Apparently he was in the care of the district and obviously was getting daily follow up checks while isolating at home(phone calls etc).

But as this is main stream media, shouldn't everyone be dismissing the article outright instead of arguing about it. I mean isn't the whole story fabricated?











So how many other otherwise fully healthy people are getting daily nursing follow ups when they are at home with mild symptoms?










I don't know , how about you tell us captain innuendo....or does that ruin your narrative,being able to make a statement without some facts to back it up

You do that so well boi






Oh boi oh boi oh boi. You clearly don't know much.
Have you found out what nurses are for yet?





Kiterfraud still has nothing




Oh boi, sorry that you can't think for yourself, wispy.



Says the boi who relies on memes for their education bahahaha

It is time for your nappy change kiterfraud


Keep trying, wispy.

leto
284 posts
6 Aug 2021 11:50PM
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Main
QLD, 2338 posts
7 Aug 2021 4:11AM
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psychojoe said..

Main said..


kiterboy said..






Can I have your foiling gear WHEN you catch Covid ?



The number of people that have fully recovered from Covid is in the very high millions, with the lack of robust seroprevalence data some epidemiologists are estimating it's already reached the low billions.

That means there is literally hundreds of millions of other people you could be asking for foiling gear


He's here and now !
Hes also tempting fate. I can also get it in writing so you don't grab it before me !

Main
QLD, 2338 posts
7 Aug 2021 4:15AM
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FormulaNova said..

Main said..

FormulaNova said..


Main said..


FormulaNova said..



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psychomub said..
Anyone who still thinks we aren't being deceived and lied to about covid...

www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/twist-in-death-of-27yearold-covid19-patient-aude-alaskar/news-story/41af00b4dfc3eabdaaecb933402c9c93

This story started out as a perfectly healthy man who succumbed to the Rona, along with calls for everyone under 40 to be jabbed immediately.

So..it turns out he returned a negative C19 test the day before he died and had a history of heart conditions.

Still, he is listed as a Covid victim, and the headline still refers to him as a Covid patient despite the negative test.









But you are right on one point, we are being "deceived and lied to"...





We are being lied to by the media and then told the truth by the same media?




Yes and No !
Its the journalists job to sell papers - NOTHING else matters !




Too true. They should follow it up with a few articles of 'we were wrong' followed by 'we were right'. People would still read.



Im still stewing on the headlines of:

"Property Crash Looming - expect up to 50% depreciation"
and now its
"Boom Boom Boom - its gunna keep going up ! "

seriously these journos are a joke and never held to account.....



To be fair, no one expected the property market to do what it did. Who could have predicted it?


Thats my point. But theirs is to create hype by extreme misleading reporting that appeals to people's greed or fear.

Rails
QLD, 1371 posts
7 Aug 2021 4:57AM
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FormulaNova said..

snoidberg said..



I choose eating healthy, vitamin D3, K2, C, Quercetin and Zinc, mask exemption so i get plenty of oxygen, exercise and sunlight and as a precaution i have Ivermectin on hand.
I will pass on the so called vaccine the government, media and bill gates are so desperate to force us all to have because i don't think graphene oxide is a safe ingredient and turning my body into a spike protein factory dose not seem like a good thing considering the fact that the spike protein is a toxin.

If everyone just got on with their lives, took some steps to be healthier and we protected the vulnerable this could of passed by like an average flu season and we would have natural immunity to the next strain.



Wow. The spike protein is a toxin?

Are you going to have your Ivermectin with icecream? Apple flavor... yum!

You do know that the Ivermectin is meant to be used BEFORE you catch the SARS Cov2 virus, don't you?


Removes worms and bots... Up to 1250lbs body weight
pretty sure the covid ain't gunna kill ya'all if ya munch down on that

japie
NSW, 7145 posts
7 Aug 2021 6:38AM
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FormulaNova said..

snoidberg said..



I choose eating healthy, vitamin D3, K2, C, Quercetin and Zinc, mask exemption so i get plenty of oxygen, exercise and sunlight and as a precaution i have Ivermectin on hand.
I will pass on the so called vaccine the government, media and bill gates are so desperate to force us all to have because i don't think graphene oxide is a safe ingredient and turning my body into a spike protein factory dose not seem like a good thing considering the fact that the spike protein is a toxin.

If everyone just got on with their lives, took some steps to be healthier and we protected the vulnerable this could of passed by like an average flu season and we would have natural immunity to the next strain.



Wow. The spike protein is a toxin?

Are you going to have your Ivermectin with icecream? Apple flavor... yum!

You do know that the Ivermectin is meant to be used BEFORE you catch the SARS Cov2 virus, don't you?


If you take the time to have a look at the results of the many trials performed world wide you will discover that what you just wrote is not valid.

Here is a link to the FLCCC which is a consortium of frontline doctors who actually treat the disease. You will find all you need to know on there although it is by no means the only source of information:

covid19criticalcare.com

This is the British equivalent:

bird-group.org

Had our beloved government taken heed of these guys Covid 19 would now be a historical event.

psychomub
448 posts
7 Aug 2021 5:10AM
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psychojoe said..

Main said..


kiterboy said..






Can I have your foiling gear WHEN you catch Covid ?



The number of people that have fully recovered from Covid is in the very high millions, with the lack of robust seroprevalence data some epidemiologists are estimating it's already reached the low billions.

That means there is literally hundreds of millions of other people you could be asking for foiling gear


Yep, it's pretty impressive when you consider we were originally told that no one would have immunity to this virus because it was "novel".

chrispy
WA, 9675 posts
7 Aug 2021 5:17AM
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chrispy said..


kiterboy said..



chrispy said..




kiterboy said..





chrispy said..






kiterboy said..










bobajob said..











kiterboy said..














sgo said..















psychomub said..
Anyone who still thinks we aren't being deceived and lied to about covid...

www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/twist-in-death-of-27yearold-covid19-patient-aude-alaskar/news-story/41af00b4dfc3eabdaaecb933402c9c93

This story started out as a perfectly healthy man who succumbed to the Rona, along with calls for everyone under 40 to be jabbed immediately.

So..it turns out he returned a negative C19 test the day before he died and had a history of heart conditions.

Still, he is listed as a Covid victim, and the headline still refers to him as a Covid patient despite the negative test.



















The article you refer to says "his family" had a history of heart problems, no mention of his heart situation.
He would have had previous tests as positive, that's why he was being treated for covid. Your article also explains the negative result.
The story started out about a man with covid, not someone "perfectly healthy"

But you are right on one point, we are being "deceived and lied to"...
















'Mr Alaskar was being followed up daily by nursing staff and had relatively mild symptoms until he "suddenly deteriorated" around lunchtime on Tuesday...'

Why do you suppose he was being cared for by nursing staff if he only had relatively mild symptoms?















"He was being cared for by southwestern Sydney Local Health District during his isolation period and he'd reached day 13," Dr Chant said on Wednesday."He was being followed up daily by nursing staff and suddenly deteriorated. He was being checked daily and he did complain of feeling a little fatigued but the deterioration happened suddenly, is my understanding."

Apparently he was in the care of the district and obviously was getting daily follow up checks while isolating at home(phone calls etc).

But as this is main stream media, shouldn't everyone be dismissing the article outright instead of arguing about it. I mean isn't the whole story fabricated?












So how many other otherwise fully healthy people are getting daily nursing follow ups when they are at home with mild symptoms?











I don't know , how about you tell us captain innuendo....or does that ruin your narrative,being able to make a statement without some facts to back it up

You do that so well boi







Oh boi oh boi oh boi. You clearly don't know much.
Have you found out what nurses are for yet?






Kiterfraud still has nothing





Oh boi, sorry that you can't think for yourself, wispy.




Says the boi who relies on memes for their education bahahaha

It is time for your nappy change kiterfraud



Keep trying, wispy.


Kiterfraud still has nothing mwa mwa mwa

Brent in Qld
WA, 1393 posts
7 Aug 2021 5:38AM
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psychomub said..
Anyone who still thinks we aren't being deceived and lied to about covid...

www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/twist-in-death-of-27yearold-covid19-patient-aude-alaskar/news-story/41af00b4dfc3eabdaaecb933402c9c93

This story started out as a perfectly healthy man who succumbed to the Rona, along with calls for everyone under 40 to be jabbed immediately.

So..it turns out he returned a negative C19 test the day before he died and had a history of heart conditions.

Still, he is listed as a Covid victim, and the headline still refers to him as a Covid patient despite the negative test.










But you are right on one point, we are being "deceived and lied to"...






We are being lied to by the media and then told the truth by the same media?





Yes and No !
Its the journalists job to sell papers - NOTHING else matters !





Too true. They should follow it up with a few articles of 'we were wrong' followed by 'we were right'. People would still read.




Im still stewing on the headlines of:

"Property Crash Looming - expect up to 50% depreciation"
and now its
"Boom Boom Boom - its gunna keep going up ! "

seriously these journos are a joke and never held to account.....




To be fair, no one expected the property market to do what it did. Who could have predicted it?



Thats my point. But theirs is to create hype by extreme misleading reporting that appeals to people's greed or fear.


Couldn't agree more, the amount of fear about that government jab is like... WOW. No one talked to me about it, I had a cold before and it is not that bad. Then they say more people are infected and like house prices go up, coincidence? I no it's not, I can read and freedom is mine not theirs. Don't tell me not to wear horns or punch horses in defiance of the MAN on Saturdays. Jus say'n... cause I'm not much good at doin'... or sciencie stuff...

(insert meme here if pictures make comprehension of written concepts easier)

Please return to your coffees and ignore this appallingly hurtful post. And many thanks for your continued and willful ignorance ensuring the IQ of humanity plummets like a brick in water. Have a nice weekend, your sponsors.

bjw
QLD, 3687 posts
7 Aug 2021 7:41AM
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I don't know why you guys are arguing. You can't convince the crazies.

TonyAbbott
924 posts
7 Aug 2021 6:33AM
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FormulaNova
WA, 15090 posts
7 Aug 2021 6:41AM
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Yep, it's pretty impressive when you consider we were originally told that no one would have immunity to this virus because it was "novel".


Do you not understand how immunity works?

The fact that people have recovered does not mean that they had immunity before being exposed to the virus.

You can get a new virus that your body has never seen before and get immunity to it. That's what your immune system is all about. The clever bit is making sure that you don't die before your immune system has time to respond properly.

I am guessing that this puts into doubt your understanding of how vaccines work as well?

Harrow
NSW, 4521 posts
7 Aug 2021 8:45AM
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Happy to say that 3 days after my 2nd jab I've managed to ditch the wifi modem and am communicating directly with the tower myself. Gonna save a heap on mobile data charges too!

FormulaNova
WA, 15090 posts
7 Aug 2021 6:47AM
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FormulaNova said..

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FormulaNova said..


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FormulaNova said..



sgo said..




psychomub said..
Anyone who still thinks we aren't being deceived and lied to about covid...

www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/twist-in-death-of-27yearold-covid19-patient-aude-alaskar/news-story/41af00b4dfc3eabdaaecb933402c9c93

This story started out as a perfectly healthy man who succumbed to the Rona, along with calls for everyone under 40 to be jabbed immediately.

So..it turns out he returned a negative C19 test the day before he died and had a history of heart conditions.

Still, he is listed as a Covid victim, and the headline still refers to him as a Covid patient despite the negative test.









But you are right on one point, we are being "deceived and lied to"...





We are being lied to by the media and then told the truth by the same media?




Yes and No !
Its the journalists job to sell papers - NOTHING else matters !




Too true. They should follow it up with a few articles of 'we were wrong' followed by 'we were right'. People would still read.



Im still stewing on the headlines of:

"Property Crash Looming - expect up to 50% depreciation"
and now its
"Boom Boom Boom - its gunna keep going up ! "

seriously these journos are a joke and never held to account.....



To be fair, no one expected the property market to do what it did. Who could have predicted it?


Thats my point. But theirs is to create hype by extreme misleading reporting that appeals to people's greed or fear.


At least in the case of news.com.au, I think they do these property pieces to hype up the market so that their property website gets all the business. It seems to work. The stories that are negative of the property market tend to get downplayed.

This whole fear of missing out thing has created a bit of a bubble when before then people were thinking the market was already overheated. I think because the pandemic will be slow to resolve the property market won't fall in a big heap and will get a soft landing.

FormulaNova
WA, 15090 posts
7 Aug 2021 6:51AM
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Happy to say that 3 days after my 2nd jab I've managed to ditch the wifi modem and am communicating directly with the tower myself. Gonna save a heap on mobile data charges too!


Did you get any symptoms at all? Yesterday I felt like my lymph nodes, or whatever they are under your under-arm, were a bit more swollen. Not today though.

Me, my other noticeable symptom is that I now think we never landed on the moon.

FormulaNova
WA, 15090 posts
7 Aug 2021 6:52AM
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kiterboy said..

chrispy said..


kiterboy said..



chrispy said..




kiterboy said..





chrispy said..






kiterboy said..










bobajob said..











kiterboy said..














sgo said..















psychomub said..
Anyone who still thinks we aren't being deceived and lied to about covid...

www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/twist-in-death-of-27yearold-covid19-patient-aude-alaskar/news-story/41af00b4dfc3eabdaaecb933402c9c93

This story started out as a perfectly healthy man who succumbed to the Rona, along with calls for everyone under 40 to be jabbed immediately.

So..it turns out he returned a negative C19 test the day before he died and had a history of heart conditions.

Still, he is listed as a Covid victim, and the headline still refers to him as a Covid patient despite the negative test.



















The article you refer to says "his family" had a history of heart problems, no mention of his heart situation.
He would have had previous tests as positive, that's why he was being treated for covid. Your article also explains the negative result.
The story started out about a man with covid, not someone "perfectly healthy"

But you are right on one point, we are being "deceived and lied to"...
















'Mr Alaskar was being followed up daily by nursing staff and had relatively mild symptoms until he "suddenly deteriorated" around lunchtime on Tuesday...'

Why do you suppose he was being cared for by nursing staff if he only had relatively mild symptoms?















"He was being cared for by southwestern Sydney Local Health District during his isolation period and he'd reached day 13," Dr Chant said on Wednesday."He was being followed up daily by nursing staff and suddenly deteriorated. He was being checked daily and he did complain of feeling a little fatigued but the deterioration happened suddenly, is my understanding."

Apparently he was in the care of the district and obviously was getting daily follow up checks while isolating at home(phone calls etc).

But as this is main stream media, shouldn't everyone be dismissing the article outright instead of arguing about it. I mean isn't the whole story fabricated?












So how many other otherwise fully healthy people are getting daily nursing follow ups when they are at home with mild symptoms?











I don't know , how about you tell us captain innuendo....or does that ruin your narrative,being able to make a statement without some facts to back it up

You do that so well boi







Oh boi oh boi oh boi. You clearly don't know much.
Have you found out what nurses are for yet?






Kiterfraud still has nothing





Oh boi, sorry that you can't think for yourself, wispy.




Says the boi who relies on memes for their education bahahaha

It is time for your nappy change kiterfraud



Keep trying, wispy.


Kiterfraud still has nothing mwa mwa mwa


Sucked in, you now have the stalker! and he is still talking rubbish and attacking people not their argument.

FormulaNova
WA, 15090 posts
7 Aug 2021 6:54AM
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Kamikuza said..
FormulaNova said..
Wow. The spike protein is a toxin?


Here I go again

www.aap.com.au/toxic-spike-protein-claims-misinterpret-vaccine-study/


Yes, it would definitely help if you also gave your own opinion instead of 'offering corroborating URLs'. At least in this case I can tell what the article means by the heading.

A toxin! Surely a toxin is neutralized by colonic irrigation or a lemon-juice detox?

TonyAbbott
924 posts
7 Aug 2021 7:29AM
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From Mark Latham, former leader of the labor party. What a crazy society we have become when Latham has become a voice of reason:

WHAT YOU WON'T READ IN THE MEDIA THIS WEEKEND

1. Remember all the hype and hysteria about the 'SuperSpreader' event from the protest march in Sydney two weeks ago? How it was going to be a new Covid cluster? Not surprisingly, the media have not followed up on this story because none of it turned out to be true. There have been no transmissions confirmed by NSW Health from the march. A classic example of Fake News.

2. Nearly 600,000 Covid tests in NSW over the past week produced a positive rate of 0.25%. Anyone with symptoms should get tested, but (other than those made to do it to get to work, or have visited listed venues) I can't understand why thousands of people with no symptoms line up for hours in long car queues for the tests. Maybe some people think it's better than being locked in small apartments under house-arrest.

3. On the NSW Parliament Notice Paper in answer to my Question 6869, Health Minister Hazzard has said there have been no confirmed cases of Covid transmission on NSW public transport since the beginning of Covid 18 months ago. Yet the Government has scared the pants off people about Covid and the trains and buses are empty. And for the small number of people using them, the mask mandate remains. How about some evidence-based policy for a change?

4. Also since the beginning of last year, there hasn't been a single Covid transmission outdoors in NSW. Now we see the so-called 'virus experts' from universities pointing to the young people who had a party on the Blacksmiths Beach near Lake Macquarie (which has led to the Hunter Valley outbreak), saying this is evidence of outdoor transmission. But is 'close personal relations' on a beach really an outdoor transmission or transmission of a different kind?

5. The media has gone crazy in its authoritarian push to force AstraZeneca upon people. Every Thursday the Federal Government's Therapeutic Goods Administration publishes data on the safety of its approved vaccines. So far AZ has killed 7 Australians, caused 93 other blood clotting episodes and created nearly 30,000 reports of adverse reactions. If you read the full TGA data anywhere in the mainstream media, I will buy you a lottery ticket. The public has the right to know, especially on something as sensitive as a medical procedure pushed upon people in the urgency of a global pandemic. Individual safety must come first, and that can only be achieved if each individual has accurate information and evidence available to them. Media biases are betraying the public interest.

6. The NSW Government Senior Minister Damien Tudehope (in response to my questions) has refused to rule out the introduction of Vaccine Passports in NSW for two purposes: a) allowing businesses to force their staff to be vaccinated; and b) requiring companies winning NSW Government contracts to have a fully 100% vaccinated workforce. Minister Dominello has already gone onto social media brazenly holding up the Vaccine Passport he plans to introduce. Why hasn't this picture, shown on Mark Latham's Outsiders, appeared anywhere in the mainstream media? Their lack of accountability for government is stunning.

Finally, let me be clear: Covid is real; Covid conspiracy theories are nonsense; I have always supported safe, well-established vaccines for myself and my family: and I believe the Pfizer vaccine can offer protection against Covid.

I have always disliked fanaticism and wacky conspiracy theories in politics. But just as much, I am dismayed by the current media and political campaign deliberately trying to push and intimidate the public into certain conclusions about Covid, namely:

1. We should be in a state of panic, hiding under our beds, when the natural human response to a challenge like this is to calmly and logically assess factual information. In truth, the Covid deaths in Australia have overwhelmingly been of people 70 years and older, mainly those with existing health conditions and/or nursing home residents.

2. Somehow you are a traitor or 'unAustralian' if you don't line up automatically for the AstraZeneca vaccine because some bloke with a 50 IQ keeps yelling at you on radio to do it. We should respect the vaccine choices of all Australians as they go about this decision privately, based on research and discussions with their doctor. The doctor-patient relationship in our country used to be sacred. Now it has been wiped as authoritarian politicians and media blowhards with no medical qualifications tell people what to do, deliberately under-reporting the truth from the Therapeutic Goods Administration about the risks associated with AZ. It's a dreadful thing that governments and media have planted themselves in between patients and doctors.

3. We all need to carry a Vaccine Passport, handing over our private health information to Tech giants like Google and Apple, and then show this information to strangers at the shops just to buy food. Are we living in Australia or North Korea and China when this stuff is proposed? If the official Government objective is 70-80% vaccination rates, achieving Herd Immunity so that the virus no longer circulates through communities, then why are Vaccine Passports needed? This is just another grab for government control over people. Political leaders are drunk on power during this Covid period, and they keep on thinking of new ways to maintain control over society.

kiterboy
2614 posts
7 Aug 2021 7:41AM
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psychomub said..
Anyone who still thinks we aren't being deceived and lied to about covid...

www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/twist-in-death-of-27yearold-covid19-patient-aude-alaskar/news-story/41af00b4dfc3eabdaaecb933402c9c93

This story started out as a perfectly healthy man who succumbed to the Rona, along with calls for everyone under 40 to be jabbed immediately.

So..it turns out he returned a negative C19 test the day before he died and had a history of heart conditions.

Still, he is listed as a Covid victim, and the headline still refers to him as a Covid patient despite the negative test.




















The article you refer to says "his family" had a history of heart problems, no mention of his heart situation.
He would have had previous tests as positive, that's why he was being treated for covid. Your article also explains the negative result.
The story started out about a man with covid, not someone "perfectly healthy"

But you are right on one point, we are being "deceived and lied to"...

















'Mr Alaskar was being followed up daily by nursing staff and had relatively mild symptoms until he "suddenly deteriorated" around lunchtime on Tuesday...'

Why do you suppose he was being cared for by nursing staff if he only had relatively mild symptoms?
















"He was being cared for by southwestern Sydney Local Health District during his isolation period and he'd reached day 13," Dr Chant said on Wednesday."He was being followed up daily by nursing staff and suddenly deteriorated. He was being checked daily and he did complain of feeling a little fatigued but the deterioration happened suddenly, is my understanding."

Apparently he was in the care of the district and obviously was getting daily follow up checks while isolating at home(phone calls etc).

But as this is main stream media, shouldn't everyone be dismissing the article outright instead of arguing about it. I mean isn't the whole story fabricated?













So how many other otherwise fully healthy people are getting daily nursing follow ups when they are at home with mild symptoms?












I don't know , how about you tell us captain innuendo....or does that ruin your narrative,being able to make a statement without some facts to back it up

You do that so well boi








Oh boi oh boi oh boi. You clearly don't know much.
Have you found out what nurses are for yet?







Kiterfraud still has nothing






Oh boi, sorry that you can't think for yourself, wispy.





Says the boi who relies on memes for their education bahahaha

It is time for your nappy change kiterfraud




Keep trying, wispy.



Kiterfraud still has nothing mwa mwa mwa


Says the one with nothing to contribute.
Keep going, I'm just trying to work out who you're white-knighting for on here, simp-boi.

kiterboy
2614 posts
7 Aug 2021 7:47AM
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People who have healthy skeptisism for experimental, rushed out vaccines;
'I think I'll wait till there is some long term data to see if there are any adverse effects that can't have been discovered in the short term'

People who have blind trust in pharmaceutical companies with a history of deceit causing health damage;
'I just had my shot and I'm fine! That's long term data enough for me, you anti-vaxxer!'

Mr Milk
NSW, 3116 posts
7 Aug 2021 10:21AM
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Nobody disputes that there is not a long history for these vaccines. It's just that there is an imminent risk from a new disease.
Apart from hydroxychloroplacebomectin or robust health we don't have a good way to stop it infecting a lot of people.

micksmith
VIC, 1701 posts
7 Aug 2021 10:21AM
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TonyAbbott said..
From Mark Latham, former leader of the labor party. What a crazy society we have become when Latham has become a voice of reason:

WHAT YOU WON'T READ IN THE MEDIA THIS WEEKEND

1. Remember all the hype and hysteria about the 'SuperSpreader' event from the protest march in Sydney two weeks ago? How it was going to be a new Covid cluster? Not surprisingly, the media have not followed up on this story because none of it turned out to be true. There have been no transmissions confirmed by NSW Health from the march. A classic example of Fake News.

2. Nearly 600,000 Covid tests in NSW over the past week produced a positive rate of 0.25%. Anyone with symptoms should get tested, but (other than those made to do it to get to work, or have visited listed venues) I can't understand why thousands of people with no symptoms line up for hours in long car queues for the tests. Maybe some people think it's better than being locked in small apartments under house-arrest.

3. On the NSW Parliament Notice Paper in answer to my Question 6869, Health Minister Hazzard has said there have been no confirmed cases of Covid transmission on NSW public transport since the beginning of Covid 18 months ago. Yet the Government has scared the pants off people about Covid and the trains and buses are empty. And for the small number of people using them, the mask mandate remains. How about some evidence-based policy for a change?

4. Also since the beginning of last year, there hasn't been a single Covid transmission outdoors in NSW. Now we see the so-called 'virus experts' from universities pointing to the young people who had a party on the Blacksmiths Beach near Lake Macquarie (which has led to the Hunter Valley outbreak), saying this is evidence of outdoor transmission. But is 'close personal relations' on a beach really an outdoor transmission or transmission of a different kind?

5. The media has gone crazy in its authoritarian push to force AstraZeneca upon people. Every Thursday the Federal Government's Therapeutic Goods Administration publishes data on the safety of its approved vaccines. So far AZ has killed 7 Australians, caused 93 other blood clotting episodes and created nearly 30,000 reports of adverse reactions. If you read the full TGA data anywhere in the mainstream media, I will buy you a lottery ticket. The public has the right to know, especially on something as sensitive as a medical procedure pushed upon people in the urgency of a global pandemic. Individual safety must come first, and that can only be achieved if each individual has accurate information and evidence available to them. Media biases are betraying the public interest.

6. The NSW Government Senior Minister Damien Tudehope (in response to my questions) has refused to rule out the introduction of Vaccine Passports in NSW for two purposes: a) allowing businesses to force their staff to be vaccinated; and b) requiring companies winning NSW Government contracts to have a fully 100% vaccinated workforce. Minister Dominello has already gone onto social media brazenly holding up the Vaccine Passport he plans to introduce. Why hasn't this picture, shown on Mark Latham's Outsiders, appeared anywhere in the mainstream media? Their lack of accountability for government is stunning.

Finally, let me be clear: Covid is real; Covid conspiracy theories are nonsense; I have always supported safe, well-established vaccines for myself and my family: and I believe the Pfizer vaccine can offer protection against Covid.

I have always disliked fanaticism and wacky conspiracy theories in politics. But just as much, I am dismayed by the current media and political campaign deliberately trying to push and intimidate the public into certain conclusions about Covid, namely:

1. We should be in a state of panic, hiding under our beds, when the natural human response to a challenge like this is to calmly and logically assess factual information. In truth, the Covid deaths in Australia have overwhelmingly been of people 70 years and older, mainly those with existing health conditions and/or nursing home residents.

2. Somehow you are a traitor or 'unAustralian' if you don't line up automatically for the AstraZeneca vaccine because some bloke with a 50 IQ keeps yelling at you on radio to do it. We should respect the vaccine choices of all Australians as they go about this decision privately, based on research and discussions with their doctor. The doctor-patient relationship in our country used to be sacred. Now it has been wiped as authoritarian politicians and media blowhards with no medical qualifications tell people what to do, deliberately under-reporting the truth from the Therapeutic Goods Administration about the risks associated with AZ. It's a dreadful thing that governments and media have planted themselves in between patients and doctors.

3. We all need to carry a Vaccine Passport, handing over our private health information to Tech giants like Google and Apple, and then show this information to strangers at the shops just to buy food. Are we living in Australia or North Korea and China when this stuff is proposed? If the official Government objective is 70-80% vaccination rates, achieving Herd Immunity so that the virus no longer circulates through communities, then why are Vaccine Passports needed? This is just another grab for government control over people. Political leaders are drunk on power during this Covid period, and they keep on thinking of new ways to maintain control over society.


Personal likes or dislikes aside, this is Truth as I see it.

Carantoc
WA, 7189 posts
7 Aug 2021 8:40AM
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micksmith said..

TonyAbbott said..
From Mark Latham, former leader of the labor party. What a crazy society we have become when Latham has become a voice of reason:

WHAT YOU WON'T READ IN THE MEDIA THIS WEEKEND

1. Remember all the hype and hysteria about the 'SuperSpreader' event from the protest march in Sydney two weeks ago? How it was going to be a new Covid cluster? Not surprisingly, the media have not followed up on this story because none of it turned out to be true. There have been no transmissions confirmed by NSW Health from the march. A classic example of Fake News.

2. Nearly 600,000 Covid tests in NSW over the past week produced a positive rate of 0.25%. Anyone with symptoms should get tested, but (other than those made to do it to get to work, or have visited listed venues) I can't understand why thousands of people with no symptoms line up for hours in long car queues for the tests. Maybe some people think it's better than being locked in small apartments under house-arrest.

3. On the NSW Parliament Notice Paper in answer to my Question 6869, Health Minister Hazzard has said there have been no confirmed cases of Covid transmission on NSW public transport since the beginning of Covid 18 months ago. Yet the Government has scared the pants off people about Covid and the trains and buses are empty. And for the small number of people using them, the mask mandate remains. How about some evidence-based policy for a change?

4. Also since the beginning of last year, there hasn't been a single Covid transmission outdoors in NSW. Now we see the so-called 'virus experts' from universities pointing to the young people who had a party on the Blacksmiths Beach near Lake Macquarie (which has led to the Hunter Valley outbreak), saying this is evidence of outdoor transmission. But is 'close personal relations' on a beach really an outdoor transmission or transmission of a different kind?

5. The media has gone crazy in its authoritarian push to force AstraZeneca upon people. Every Thursday the Federal Government's Therapeutic Goods Administration publishes data on the safety of its approved vaccines. So far AZ has killed 7 Australians, caused 93 other blood clotting episodes and created nearly 30,000 reports of adverse reactions. If you read the full TGA data anywhere in the mainstream media, I will buy you a lottery ticket. The public has the right to know, especially on something as sensitive as a medical procedure pushed upon people in the urgency of a global pandemic. Individual safety must come first, and that can only be achieved if each individual has accurate information and evidence available to them. Media biases are betraying the public interest.

6. The NSW Government Senior Minister Damien Tudehope (in response to my questions) has refused to rule out the introduction of Vaccine Passports in NSW for two purposes: a) allowing businesses to force their staff to be vaccinated; and b) requiring companies winning NSW Government contracts to have a fully 100% vaccinated workforce. Minister Dominello has already gone onto social media brazenly holding up the Vaccine Passport he plans to introduce. Why hasn't this picture, shown on Mark Latham's Outsiders, appeared anywhere in the mainstream media? Their lack of accountability for government is stunning.

Finally, let me be clear: Covid is real; Covid conspiracy theories are nonsense; I have always supported safe, well-established vaccines for myself and my family: and I believe the Pfizer vaccine can offer protection against Covid.

I have always disliked fanaticism and wacky conspiracy theories in politics. But just as much, I am dismayed by the current media and political campaign deliberately trying to push and intimidate the public into certain conclusions about Covid, namely:

1. We should be in a state of panic, hiding under our beds, when the natural human response to a challenge like this is to calmly and logically assess factual information. In truth, the Covid deaths in Australia have overwhelmingly been of people 70 years and older, mainly those with existing health conditions and/or nursing home residents.

2. Somehow you are a traitor or 'unAustralian' if you don't line up automatically for the AstraZeneca vaccine because some bloke with a 50 IQ keeps yelling at you on radio to do it. We should respect the vaccine choices of all Australians as they go about this decision privately, based on research and discussions with their doctor. The doctor-patient relationship in our country used to be sacred. Now it has been wiped as authoritarian politicians and media blowhards with no medical qualifications tell people what to do, deliberately under-reporting the truth from the Therapeutic Goods Administration about the risks associated with AZ. It's a dreadful thing that governments and media have planted themselves in between patients and doctors.

3. We all need to carry a Vaccine Passport, handing over our private health information to Tech giants like Google and Apple, and then show this information to strangers at the shops just to buy food. Are we living in Australia or North Korea and China when this stuff is proposed? If the official Government objective is 70-80% vaccination rates, achieving Herd Immunity so that the virus no longer circulates through communities, then why are Vaccine Passports needed? This is just another grab for government control over people. Political leaders are drunk on power during this Covid period, and they keep on thinking of new ways to maintain control over society.



Personal likes or dislikes aside, this is Truth as I see it.


Tony Abbott and Mark Latham.

Two people I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.

Yet the only mildly sensible thing posted in the last 32 pages.

Go figure.



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