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Vaccine who has it who hasn't who won't?

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Created by Razzonater > 9 months ago, 25 Jun 2021
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theDoctor
NSW, 5786 posts
19 Jul 2021 10:41PM
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even an expert will do as they're told

FormulaNova
WA, 15090 posts
19 Jul 2021 10:53PM
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Guys, this is just a forum, for chatter. Just because people post points of view does not mean that anyone needs to see them as expert opinions.

Whether I agree with them or not, these are just opinions, including mine. I don't mind if someone posts on something that I disagree with or I think is coo-coo-crazy. If its really out there I won't bother replying, and at the end of the day my reply means nothing as well.

If it only had perfect, researched articles by experts in their field, there would be no chatter. If it bothers you, don't read it. Use some self control and just avoid it.

Razzonater
2224 posts
20 Jul 2021 6:56AM
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Update I tried to book in for the vaccine again to get the same message.
my wife rang local doctors and they said try again in two weeks.
This is week 8 I think of trying to get first Pfizer vaccine now.

I did some quick maths and excellent we are apparently getting. A million doses, so with our population of the government does that 25-27 times we will all have our first dose......... so 25 more months till everyone has had the chance to get the first dose or 50 months to get the two......

Its not a matter anymore of people wanting/not wanting it .. it's availability...

Dawn Patrol
WA, 1991 posts
20 Jul 2021 7:01AM
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2nd Pfizer jab done last week. Bit tired day two, nothing major. All good now.

Mr Milk
NSW, 3116 posts
20 Jul 2021 10:28AM
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Razzonater said..
Update I tried to book in for the vaccine again to get the same message.
my wife rang local doctors and they said try again in two weeks.
This is week 8 I think of trying to get first Pfizer vaccine now.

I did some quick maths and excellent we are apparently getting. A million doses, so with our population of the government does that 25-27 times we will all have our first dose......... so 25 more months till everyone has had the chance to get the first dose or 50 months to get the two......

Its not a matter anymore of people wanting/not wanting it .. it's availability...


The amount of the Pfizer vaccine coming in is going to increase over the next couple of months. I could look for the exact figures but I think it something like 3 million doses of month by October.
In the meantime, there is plenty of the Astrazeneca stuff available and anybody can have it. If you are scared of a very rare side-effect that can be treated, you must be absolutely terrified every time you go into the water knowing that there might be a shark about

japie
NSW, 7145 posts
20 Jul 2021 12:11PM
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I know, it's an old article and they've changed their ways

Justice Department Announces Largest Health Care Fraud Settlement in Its History


Pfizer to Pay $2.3 Billion for Fraudulent Marketing

www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-largest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history

Razzonater
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20 Jul 2021 10:42AM
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Mr Milk said..

Razzonater said..
Update I tried to book in for the vaccine again to get the same message.
my wife rang local doctors and they said try again in two weeks.
This is week 8 I think of trying to get first Pfizer vaccine now.

I did some quick maths and excellent we are apparently getting. A million doses, so with our population of the government does that 25-27 times we will all have our first dose......... so 25 more months till everyone has had the chance to get the first dose or 50 months to get the two......

Its not a matter anymore of people wanting/not wanting it .. it's availability...



The amount of the Pfizer vaccine coming in is going to increase over the next couple of months. I could look for the exact figures but I think it something like 3 million doses of month by October.
In the meantime, there is plenty of the Astrazeneca stuff available and anybody can have it. If you are scared of a very rare side-effect that can be treated, you must be absolutely terrified every time you go into the water knowing that there might be a shark about


Understand your point but risk mitigation is a basic survival instinct

if your having to take a drug or vaccine to return to normal life do you want the one with higher or lower risk.

Would you select the $3 pizza from a dodgy cart on a night out with your wife or the $30 one from a reputable wood fired pizza shop.

( AstraZeneca price versus Pfizer) now as someone who doesn't want to get food poisoning albeit the chance being low and also wanting something of better ingredients it is probable and likely that the chance of being sick or eating poor quality pizza increases with eating the $3 pizza.

considering the taxes I pay yearly I am certain the government can spring $60 for the two doses of Pfizer to ensure I stay healthy and keep paying my taxes for the next 30 years.

This isn't taking into account the cost of prior and current lockdowns on the economy.

kiterboy
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20 Jul 2021 11:16AM
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Dawn Patrol said..
2nd Pfizer jab done last week. Bit tired day two, nothing major. All good FOR now.


FTFY

psychomub
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20 Jul 2021 11:58AM
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sgo
VIC, 211 posts
20 Jul 2021 3:59PM
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Sky news. lol.
Coincidentally last night, abc 'media watch" had a segment about Alan Jones and the above topic.
Check it out for another viewpoint.

"Sky News forced to correct the record after Alan Jones and Craig Kelly broadcast misleading information about COVID-19, vaccination safety and the Delta strain."

www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/episodes/jones/13450962

psychomub
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20 Jul 2021 2:26PM
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psychomub said..





Sky news. lol.
Coincidentally last night, abc 'media watch" had a segment about Alan Jones and the above topic.
Check it out for another viewpoint.

"Sky News forced to correct the record after Alan Jones and Craig Kelly broadcast misleading information about COVID-19, vaccination safety and the Delta strain."

www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/episodes/jones/13450962


Basically errors in context.

Nothing in the video was incorrect.

Unsurprisingly, the various government departments are guilty of the same context omissions on a daily basis . For instance, they will report on a 15 year old in ICU without referencing other health issues they had.

japie
NSW, 7145 posts
20 Jul 2021 6:43PM
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psychomub said..

sgo said..



psychomub said..






Sky news. lol.
Coincidentally last night, abc 'media watch" had a segment about Alan Jones and the above topic.
Check it out for another viewpoint.

"Sky News forced to correct the record after Alan Jones and Craig Kelly broadcast misleading information about COVID-19, vaccination safety and the Delta strain."

www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/episodes/jones/13450962



Basically errors in context.

Nothing in the video was incorrect.

Unsurprisingly, the various government departments are guilty of the same context omissions on a daily basis . For instance, they will report on a 15 year old in ICU without referencing other health issues they had.


I love that error in logic where someone leads with *lol ....news.com?
As though in a real situation where you're hiking through the wilds with a group of folk and the one in the lead comes pelting back down the track screaming that there's a Grizzly Bear in the track

So you go "Well I don't like his politics so I'm going to carry on walking"

Out of all the hundreds of hours of trying to make sense of this thing which has been foist on us this would have to be the one which seems to offer the best explanation of what is going on

www.bitchute.com/video/XB0b8iVeTdVV/

sgo
VIC, 211 posts
20 Jul 2021 7:36PM
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japie said..


psychomub said..



sgo said..





psychomub said..








Sky news. lol.
Coincidentally last night, abc 'media watch" had a segment about Alan Jones and the above topic.
Check it out for another viewpoint.

"Sky News forced to correct the record after Alan Jones and Craig Kelly broadcast misleading information about COVID-19, vaccination safety and the Delta strain."

www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/episodes/jones/13450962





Basically errors in context.

Nothing in the video was incorrect.

Unsurprisingly, the various government departments are guilty of the same context omissions on a daily basis . For instance, they will report on a 15 year old in ICU without referencing other health issues they had.




I love that error in logic where someone leads with *lol ....news.com?
As though in a real situation where you're hiking through the wilds with a group of folk and the one in the lead comes pelting back down the track screaming that there's a Grizzly Bear in the track

So you go "Well I don't like his politics so I'm going to carry on walking"

Out of all the hundreds of hours of trying to make sense of this thing which has been foist on us this would have to be the one which seems to offer the best explanation of what is going on

www.bitchute.com/video/XB0b8iVeTdVV/



Not really a question of politics, but the guy yelling that "there's a bear ahead" has no credibility and a history of not knowing the difference between a bear and a wombat.

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
20 Jul 2021 8:14PM
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FormulaNova said..
What about injecting disinfectant? That's one of Trumps brain farts isn't it?


No that was yet another example of the media distorting what he *actually* said.

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
20 Jul 2021 8:20PM
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stamp said..
i love how many of you are overnight armchair experts - here at seabreeze we've got instant epidemiologists, virologists, statisticians, microbiologists, biochemists and even social scientists.

read a few online articles and listen to a podcast and presto - you're qualified to critique lifelong vocational experts.

you're the same people who shout your opinions every four years about some olympic athlete's performance in an obscure sport you know bugger all about .

but hey - i watched a ct event earlier this year. i think i'll go online and confidently explain why morgan cibilic shouldn't be on the tour


I love how many people just refuse to look at anything for themselves and put to use the education they were given, and just listen to the talking heads that get 30 seconds coverage on the nightly news. Or chug down the bull**** the government hands out. You don't have to be all those things, or even one, because we can just go and ask those guys and get their opinions.

Or hey, just ask the True Scotsman the interested parties front to you.

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
20 Jul 2021 8:28PM
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Not really a question of politics, but the guy yelling that "there's a bear ahead" has no credibility and a history of not knowing the difference between a bear and a wombat.



So you'd carry on walking because you believe it's less likely to be a bear? That's not how you evolved

And the poms have been at it too. A selection of sources for you, top three hits of my search...

www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2021/07/uk-experts-want-politicians-to-stop-publishing-useless-and-scaremongering-covid-data.html

unherd.com/2020/11/the-governments-covid-scaremongering/

www.heraldscotland.com/news/19157201.government-covid-fear-mongering-creating-mental-health-timebomb-joanna-blythman/

Maybe Morrissey was right

sgo
VIC, 211 posts
20 Jul 2021 9:03PM
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Oops. I must confess I didn't watch more than a minute of that video. Just seeing that it was Alan Jones on Sky was enough for me.
So the point l was making was more about the messenger than the message. A view l still keep.

More importantly, should a surf sup have two or only one leash plug installed?


FormulaNova
WA, 15090 posts
20 Jul 2021 8:01PM
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Kamikuza said..
FormulaNova said..
What about injecting disinfectant? That's one of Trumps brain farts isn't it?


No that was yet another example of the media distorting what he *actually* said.


What did he actually say? I thought there was something about sunlight as well.

Either way, he was treated with proper drugs, by his doctor.

eppo
WA, 9759 posts
20 Jul 2021 8:44PM
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So the doc above who is a proponent of ivermectum gave an official senate address to provide info to congress on his protocols etc . video was taken down by YouTube, news feeds . basically went into thin air and was not accessible.


the inventer of the mRNA idea who won a Nobel prize because of it, did a video explain the use of MRNA technology is meant to specific to an individuals treatment, not to be used as a "one fits all" vaccine. Video was taken down by YouTube and other social Media platforms, news feed etc etc


Early on the Wuhan lab leak theory (which is now quickly becoming the a highly probably cause or at the very least needs to be investigated) all videos - conversation of this was pulled down.


Just three or many examples. Leading scientists in their field being cencored by silica valley overlords the puppets of.. well use your imagination.

So if you think for one second that what you read and hear is the truth, there is no capture, no agenda and the controlling powers have only our best interests at heart - I say it's time you put your lead between your legs and start sucking, because that's about as useful as you are ever gonna be.

Mr Milk
NSW, 3116 posts
20 Jul 2021 11:00PM
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Just say you get dosed up with Ivermectin and die anyway. Will that be good enough to stop the worms eating you, or will you still have to spend money on embalming?

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
21 Jul 2021 12:29AM
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If the gov are really pulling down all these highly trained medical professionals videos off social media, surely they would be also deleting all your guys posts here on seabreeze social media that have so cleverly caught them out in there sneaky ways.

Id keep those curtains closed, the gov might have a snipper rifle aimed at you right now.

japie
NSW, 7145 posts
21 Jul 2021 7:32AM
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lotofwind said..
If the gov are really pulling down all these highly trained medical professionals videos off social media, surely they would be also deleting all your guys posts here on seabreeze social media that have so cleverly caught them out in there sneaky ways.

Id keep those curtains closed, the gov might have a snipper rifle aimed at you right now.


Where do you buy these snipper rifles? Do they function in the same way that a weed eater does?

The government are not pulling down anything. The likes of Google, Twitter and Facebook are. I've had posts removed by Facebook.

airsail
QLD, 1565 posts
21 Jul 2021 9:34AM
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lotofwind said..
If the gov are really pulling down all these highly trained medical professionals videos off social media, surely they would be also deleting all your guys posts here on seabreeze social media that have so cleverly caught them out in there sneaky ways.

Id keep those curtains closed, the gov might have a snipper rifle aimed at you right now.




Where do you buy these snipper rifles? Do they function in the same way that a weed eater does?

The government are not pulling down anything. The likes of Google, Twitter and Facebook are. I've had posts removed by Facebook.



Posts removed by Facebook, they must have a quality meter that removes the low hanging posts
I'm currently sitting in the doctors surgery waiting for my second dose of AZ, no side effects from the first and planning a day on the water this afternoon.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
21 Jul 2021 10:08AM
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The government are not pulling down anything. The likes of Google, Twitter and Facebook are. I've had posts removed by Facebook.



So has Donald Trump and Brenton Tarrant ...........say no more.

Mr Milk
NSW, 3116 posts
21 Jul 2021 10:17AM
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airsail said..

japie said..



lotofwind said..
If the gov are really pulling down all these highly trained medical professionals videos off social media, surely they would be also deleting all your guys posts here on seabreeze social media that have so cleverly caught them out in there sneaky ways.

Id keep those curtains closed, the gov might have a snipper rifle aimed at you right now.





Where do you buy these snipper rifles? Do they function in the same way that a weed eater does?

The government are not pulling down anything. The likes of Google, Twitter and Facebook are. I've had posts removed by Facebook.




Posts removed by Facebook, they must have a quality meter that removes the low hanging posts
I'm currently sitting in the doctors surgery waiting for my second dose of AZ, no side effects from the first and planning a day on the water this afternoon.


I had mine yesterday. Not even a sore arm. Maybe I got the placebo.

IanR
NSW, 1327 posts
21 Jul 2021 10:26AM
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So the doc above who is a proponent of ivermectum gave an official senate address to provide info to congress on his protocols etc . video was taken down by YouTube, news feeds . basically went into thin air and was not accessible


Umm bull dust


Get your facts straight
Learn to think for yourself and stop believing everything that you get in your CT feeds

psychomub
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21 Jul 2021 8:51AM
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Oops. I must confess I didn't watch more than a minute of that video. Just seeing that it was Alan Jones on Sky was enough for me.
So the point l was making was more about the messenger than the message. A view l still keep.

More importantly, should a surf sup have two or only one leash plug installed?








FormulaNova
WA, 15090 posts
21 Jul 2021 10:23AM
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You need to add 'creates a meme' under that pyramid.

kiterboy
2614 posts
21 Jul 2021 10:40AM
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^
And a 'Talks in circles about nothing' level below that for you.

FormulaNova
WA, 15090 posts
21 Jul 2021 4:48PM
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^
And a 'Talks in circles about nothing' level below that for you.


Good to see I was using the right bait. This trolling can be hard work.



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