Maybe if I change into my board shorts at home and fit fin and mast base to board, that will make it worth while to have a sail
Would it be cynical to think that having an excuse to have daily live press conferences so close to an election would be handy? I guess time will tell, imagine if no further cases are found?
I hope he closes the border quick smart to keep it over there. 
Or dose he only do that to keep it out, but once its there he dosent care if it crosses over borders to other clean states??
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Would it be cynical to think that having an excuse to have daily live press conferences so close to an election would be handy? I guess time will tell, imagine if no further cases are found?
If anything, doesn't it show that despite the response, that WA is not performing any better than other state? I.e. the Premiers response is good, but not particularly different to others and just lucky that the volumes are less? To me, its not a positive thing, even if there are no other cases that pop up.
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Yes if rigging/derigging time is included I'll be lucky to have 10mins on the water.
Mike, send Dot down earlier to rig for you??
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Yes if rigging/derigging time is included I'll be lucky to have 10mins on the water.
Mike, send Dot down earlier to rig for you??
good idea, but don't think it will work.
Select to expand quoteAUS 808 said..decrepit said..Yes if rigging/derigging time is included I'll be lucky to have 10mins on the water.
Mike, send Dot down earlier to rig for you??
Sounds like some team planning is needed to organise a relay?
#1 gets to beach, sets up and has fun until time is up and heads back to the beach, where #2 is waiting to take over - to eventually hand over to #3 etc.
first and last unfortunately get the short shift - but next day swap places in the queue with someone else??
There is mention now in the media about how the quarantine setup in Perth is run by cowboys and relies on a lot of student visa holders. I hope this is better run than the setup they had in Victoria. With only 20 hours a week allowed on student visas, these people pretty much have to get another cash job to get by.
I know in Sydney there were a lot of 'student visa' people working more than 40 hours a week and in order to keep within the restrictions of their visas they would be working cash in hand jobs. Who wants that when you need to be able to track people quickly if something goes wrong?
Maybe its time all state governments started to treat this a bit differently? Its good keeping hotels occupied and helping out people with 20 hours a week of work, but it would be better to not shut everyone down also.
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There is mention now in the media about how the quarantine setup in Perth is run by cowboys and relies on a lot of student visa holders. I hope this is better run than the setup they had in Victoria. With only 20 hours a week allowed on student visas, these people pretty much have to get another cash job to get by.
I know in Sydney there were a lot of 'student visa' people working more than 40 hours a week and in order to keep within the restrictions of their visas they would be working cash in hand jobs. Who wants that when you need to be able to track people quickly if something goes wrong?
Maybe its time all state governments started to treat this a bit differently? Its good keeping hotels occupied and helping out people with 20 hours a week of work, but it would be better to not shut everyone down also.
At least the Police Commissioner was good straightening the MSM reporters yesterday looking for blood in their attempt to stain into the infected individual as some sort of a ''criminal'' for having another job....FFS
As 100% correctly stated by you, who usually works in these gigs are international students with a cap in hours, and with a low hourly rate
PLUS
Having to fork out a ridiculous amount to pay to stay in the country (via an expensive enrolment in a course/school) which is basically a tax/fee form them to stay here. They are vulnerable and exploited labor happening right here under the noses of a Prude society. Put some action where your mouths are if you want something better/fairier/different.
It was a very good slap into Mc Clown's face who was a cocky arrogant piece before this happened. WA is not an example in how to deal with this health situation simply because WE HAVE NOT BEEN TO BATTLE like other states and countries. We have a lot to learn from them, not the other way around.
Good to see some people stuck with their little brats at home with nothing to do as other places in the world have been for around a year now. GOOD LUCK
Puts some perspective in some people and understand why people in other geographic regions are exhausted of lockdowns without expiration time.
This virus won't disappear, it is already endemic. We will need to learn how to live with it. Vaccines, social, distance, safe guards for elderly/vulnerable and carry on dudes...
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There is mention now in the media about how the quarantine setup in Perth is run by cowboys and relies on a lot of student visa holders.
I would believe this since one of the places the security guard visited is Indian Consulate in Perth....
It's probably like any project ran by the government. They have a decent budget to pay the staff but after being funneled through a few security companies and a recruitment agency it's just a minimal salary left and then you get students and uber drivers.
They know that this will be ongoing for another 6 months so it would be easy to bring in staff on a 6-month contract. Workers stay in the hotel for the week they work and then they got one week off. It works for the resource industry so I see no reason it wouldn't work here...
I don't have great hopes but I sincerely hope that someone who has been responsible for the current setup gets fired. There can be no quality without accountability.
Our time is nigh!
Fire rains from above and pestilence ravages our land.
The Victorians must be laughing.
I blame it all on those sinful bogans who support the West Coast Eagles.
You have bought this on us.
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...It's probably like any project ran by the government.....Workers stay in the hotel for the week they work and then they got one week off...
How about they have to do one week working in the quarantine hotels, two weeks isolation away from everybody and then they sit in Parliament for a week, doing whatever it is they don't do already ?
The MPs could then ....... oh wait, hang on,... you said "workers". Sorry, I misread it with "an" in the middle....
Carry on..
Seems like all these outbreaks have one commonality, hotels quarantine. It's time to have real quarantine. Real quarantine might cost more but it will cost less than the lockdowns.
Quarantine areas in the middle of big cities does not make sense. People infected or potentially infected should be isolated from other people, not placed in the middle of a city with a million people.
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Seems like all these outbreaks have one commonality, hotels quarantine. It's time to have real quarantine. Real quarantine might cost more but it will cost less than the lockdowns.
Quarantine areas in the middle of big cities does not make sense. People infected or potentially infected should be isolated from other people, not placed in the middle of a city with a million people.
Would it cost more? What's the economic cost (to mainly small Businesses - the real economy) when one overseas students infection at a hotel quarantine locks down most of the state. A repeatable incident at that. As Joe rogan said on one of his podcast talking about the draconian and useless lockdowns in California - these politicians making these decisions still get paid (and it seems flout their own restrictions in this case). Be a different story if their pay was tied to the states loss in productive revenue).
At least Adelaide have designated one hotel as a dedicated medi-hotel for positive cases. My understanding is that everyone that tests positive gets sent to that hotel.
In theory this hotel should have better infection control and physical security. It makes a lot of sense given that not everyone undergoing quarantine from overseas is tested positive. I think they are staffing it a bit differently too.
If its a single hotel, or minimised to certain hotels, surely you could then provide better control of the workers there and potentially have them located onsite for the weeks that they are on shift?
Oh well when it comes to quarantine I agree with Anthony Albanese. When it come to quarantine it's best to quarantine people away from other people.
Australia has no shortage of spaces where there are no other people. Australia also has no shortage of islands close to major metropolitan areas. For example in Sydney NSW there is an island called Garden Island in Sydney Harbour. It would make a great spot to quarantine.
Why put people who are or maybe infected into hotels that recycle air, have no sunshine and are surrounded by huge numbers of people? It really does not make sense.
So this security guard caught the extra-hyper-contagious UK strain of the virus.
He went to multiple locations (while contagious) and had contact with dozens of people, yet no one caught it off him.
What am I missing here?
Bear in mind, he supposedly caught it while sitting in a chair, down the hallway from a person infected with this extra-hyper-contagious UK strain of the virus.
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So this security guard caught the extra-hyper-contagious UK strain of the virus.
He went to multiple locations (while contagious) and had contact with dozens of people, yet no one caught it off him.
What am I missing here?
Bear in mind, he supposedly caught it while sitting in a chair, down the hallway from a person infected with this extra-hyper-contagious UK strain of the virus.
Good question and I think we were very fortunate of the type of person 903 is. Apparently he is not a shedder of the virus and places he went to have reasonable to good aircon. Importantly he is likely a person of a quiet demeanor. A loud boisterous person will spread the virus where as someone that is quiet is much less risk of doing so.
Select to expand quotekiterboy said..Bear in mind, he supposedly caught it while sitting in a chair, down the hallway from a person infected with this extra-hyper-contagious UK strain of the virus.
The hotel where the security guard became infected is well known to me!!
I worked there when it was first built [as "THE ORCHARD HOTEL"]
My role was in the engineering department with a very large part of my job for 5 1/2 years being looking after the aircon system.
In the early days, this involved a lot of fine tuning, balancing of the air supply, modifying the impractical hybrid pneumatic + computerised control system so it would actually work, fault finding etc.
While the air con's control system has probably been upgraded from the original Honeywell pneumatic system to a more efficient and modern electronic system - I imagine that the basic ducting of supply and return air will still be the original design.
The filtered incoming air is pumped into each room and the used air [return air] then passes through a duct over the entry door and out into the corridor where it is drawn into the return air shafts near the lifts.
Normally, a percentage of this air is recycled so as to reduce the cost of cooling needed for the building.
With the hotel being used for quarantine - I would hope that the recycling of used air is blocked off and only fresh air supplied to the rooms.
So, in a nutshell - the air being supplied to a room that has an infectious person, passes down the corridor on the way to the return air shafts.
Anyone in that corridor is totally surrounded by potentially contaminated air and has no option but to breathe that air.
Even if the guards and staff are using masks and face shields - there would be no guarantee of safety!
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So, in a nutshell - the air being supplied to a room that has an infectious person, passes down the corridor on the way to the return air shafts.
Anyone in that corridor is totally surrounded by potentially contaminated air and has no option but to breathe that air.
Even if the guards and staff are using masks and face shields - there would be no guarantee of safety!
Obviously the best place to choose as an isolation unit of a highly infectious bug
it always amazes me how otherwise intelligent sounding people adjust their critical intellectual thinking to fit inside the parameters of a narrative
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it always amazes me how otherwise intelligent sounding people adjust their critical intellectual thinking to fit inside the parameters of a narrative
Pot, Kettle?? Memeboy
Select to expand quotesn said..kiterboy said..Bear in mind, he supposedly caught it while sitting in a chair, down the hallway from a person infected with this extra-hyper-contagious UK strain of the virus.
The hotel where the security guard became infected is well known to me!!
I worked there when it was first built [as "THE ORCHARD HOTEL"]
My role was in the engineering department with a very large part of my job for 5 1/2 years being looking after the aircon system.
In the early days, this involved a lot of fine tuning, balancing of the air supply, modifying the impractical hybrid pneumatic + computerised control system so it would actually work, fault finding etc.
While the air con's control system has probably been upgraded from the original Honeywell pneumatic system to a more efficient and modern electronic system - I imagine that the basic ducting of supply and return air will still be the original design.
The filtered incoming air is pumped into each room and the used air [return air] then passes through a duct over the entry door and out into the corridor where it is drawn into the return air shafts near the lifts.
Normally, a percentage of this air is recycled so as to reduce the cost of cooling needed for the building.
With the hotel being used for quarantine - I would hope that the recycling of used air is blocked off and only fresh air supplied to the rooms.
So, in a nutshell - the air being supplied to a room that has an infectious person, passes down the corridor on the way to the return air shafts.
Anyone in that corridor is totally surrounded by potentially contaminated air and has no option but to breathe that air.
Even if the guards and staff are using masks and face shields - there would be no guarantee of safety!
Fixing the aircon would be one intelligent move but then so would hiring qualified biosecurity services instead of Uber drivers
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The filtered incoming air is pumped into each room and the used air [return air] then passes through a duct over the entry door and out into the corridor where it is drawn into the return air shafts near the lifts.
That makes sense, otherwise you'd have to double up on the ducting. Or vent each room directly outside. Making use of the corridors for return air is practical . I'd guess all hotels do it this way. None were designed as quarantine stations. How do hospitals do it?
No cases? All this disruption for not a single transmission for the most mutant freak dangerous strain?
Maybe
-his test was a false positive (the king wont admit that after all this circus)
-this was all a propaganda ploy
-this shai t is that transmitable? Not even his housemates sharing toilet, kitchen, door knobs, shower etc etc?
Went outside only yesterday, at woolies they are controlling sales of a large list of items. Partially agree w that as the general muppets bevahed poorly last Sunday.
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So this security guard caught the extra-hyper-contagious UK strain of the virus.
He went to multiple locations (while contagious) and had contact with dozens of people, yet no one caught it off him.
What am I missing here?
Bear in mind, he supposedly caught it while sitting in a chair, down the hallway from a person infected with this extra-hyper-contagious UK strain of the virus.
I agree Kiterboy. He was also living in a share house. If he is so contagious wouldn't the other people living in his house have it too??
Yeah I think its just cause Magoo has seen it happen last year in the rest of Aussie that he felt he should do something similar.
Political move ??????
WA is always a year or two behind the main states.
how sick was he but? just testing positive doesn't make you highly infectious, you have to be sneezing and coughing to really spread germs around.
