Select to expand quotelotofwind said..
Had no choice, made the most of the situation.
Should I have sat at home all day complaining about it on forums? 
No choice? You could have turned the money down, that would have been the moral thing to do and in keeping with your abhorrence of the undeserving sponging off the tax payers...
Select to expand quotekiterboy said..D3 said..Paradox said..D3 said..
For those who like to down play the risk this virus poses to the wider community.
In the past 6 months since that one bloke visited Bondi Junction and kicked off the Delta outbreak on the East Coast.
There has been 1300 Covid Caused Deaths (not just being asymptomatic and dying with it) from that single point of infection
That is a significant jump from our worst Influenza years (whole year not just 6 months).
This is especially significant due to:
-The generally much lower Flu vaccination rates during those years (large proportion of the population usually trust their immune systems and not think about who else they may infect)
- We had really strict infection control measures in place
- And the flu can usually enter the country year round from whatever overseas destination is currently experiencing a surge
Sure, in the future we're all hoping that this virus will have as little impact on society as the common cold.
But right now it is still a full on pandemic
I think you will find the questions are more about who has been effected and does COVID target a certain vulnerable section of the community or as you say, is it a significant risk to the wider community.
If you check your 1,300 deaths in Australia you will find the vast majority are over 70. I believe stats from the US showed 93% of deaths had on average 2.5 other co-morbidities. You will also find that in the US where the virus was present everywhere it raised the overall death rate by about 15%. It's actually not that big of an increase.
There is no doubt it is a pandemic and is serious, however it has never been all that serious for most of the population. It always should have been about ensuring the vulnerable are identified and protected and that hospitals could cope. Everything else actually has most likely cost more than saved and those costs will become evident over the next decade.
Can we agree that we shouldn't compare USA with Australia, not least because we did manage to keep covid under control for the majority of the past two years.
Making statements akin to 'it only kills the old and infirm' us extremely misleading and you come across as though 15% of the population is fair game because they're old.
And that's not even counting people who have complicated health status through no fault if their own.
Lots of people have these co-morbidities that mught otherwise not be an issue.
Apparently 2/3 of Australians are obese or overweight. Sure some could get that sorted over time, but right now they're at greater risk.
And then there are all those other quite common co-morbidities:-
Pregnancy
Previous or current smoker
Hear diseases
Lung disease
Kidney diseases
Liver diseases
So when state 'we need to protect the vulnerable', I totally agree. But we need to be clear as to just how many people in our society are actually at risk
But noone gave a crap about 'Protecting the vunerable TM' when they were dropping off to the tune of 4k a year in Aus, from the flu prior to 2020.
So why is it such a priority now that experimental treatments need to be mandated?
Apologies, I'd been using stats from the Aus Government Flu Tracking, which only listed 313000 Lab confirmed cases with 953 deaths for 2019. But that's influenza only, not Pneumonia as well.
2019 case numbers were a 2.7 times increase on the 5 year rolling average of 113000. Deaths were also more than 2 times higher than the 5 year rolling average of 403 (but lower than 2017 of more than 1100)
www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/ozflu-surveil-season-summary-2019.htm#current
Extra context: 2009 WHO declared H1N1 strain pandemic, in Australia there was 38000 cases and 191 deaths.
But I'm probably not reading it right
Select to expand quotelotofwind said..
Had no choice, made the most of the situation.Should I have sat at home all day complaining about it on forums?
Lotofwind? I'm shocked & disappointed to hear this after the drubbing I received. I guess I'm due for a lengthy grovelling heartfelt apology.
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..Flying Dutchman said..FormulaNova said..eppo said..Flying Dutchman said..
Anyone have any thoughts as to rinsing a 1% Povidone Iodine solution in your nasal passages a couple times a day when you have an onset of Covid symptoms or any virus for that matter? Read this study a few months ago & was reminded about it when listening to a podcast last night.
www.bioresearchcommunications.com/index.php/brc/article/view/176/159
I'd give it a go as an experiment & can report back here with results. If you happen to try this make sure you don't swallow the solution it can inflame your thyroid.
Haven't had any jabs, no PCR tests. This will be my $9 Covid treatment with no cost to you, the tax payer.
I bought some the other week.
www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/buy/1160/betadine-concentrated-sore-throat-gargle---sore-throat-treatment---15ml
Yeh I'm giving it a crack. Might reduce the viral load if exposed in the throat and nasal
passage. Then again it could very well do sweet Fck all - kinda like vaccines I've had 
Okay, I will bite. I can't resist the bait.
You two are going to rinse a solution of Iodine down your nose and throat once you get symptoms of Covid? Or anyway, before any symptoms?
You do realise that you are in WA and that there is next to no cases of Covid at the moment don't you?
Even if there were, what is your 'experiment' going to prove? Nothing. We have already discussed at length that some people get it bad and some people don't even notice they have it. So your snorting of iodine is going to prove what exactly?
You may as well mix some eye-of-newt in there as well and if you survive, that's clearly the answer to the pandemic.
Let us have our fun FormulaNova it's not going to effect you don't worry. I'd rather be sick for 2 days than 5.
I've heard it recommended in a few podcasts by Drs so I want to see if it works. Who knows it might do fark all but it may work. Will be handy to know for any viruses in the future including flus.
I'm only going to do once I have some symptoms.
No, I have no problem with you doing this. It is your health choice after all.
I guess the only problem I have with it is the logic. If it fails, how would you discern it from just random chance? If it works, how would you discern it from random chance?
If you were to have symptoms and they went away straight away, was it your treatment or the way your body would have reacted anyway? Worst, what if it somehow impaired your body's immune response? Not likely, but you would never be able to know.
That Doctor McCullough though went on about, waffled if you will, about these sorts of treatments, and then got Covid himself. I wonder what went wrong there?
Stick with the eye-of-newt. It has the runs on the board.
It's a very unscientific test. But if I recover within 2-3 days I will consider it a minor victory.
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..Flying Dutchman said..FormulaNova said..eppo said..Flying Dutchman said..
Anyone have any thoughts as to rinsing a 1% Povidone Iodine solution in your nasal passages a couple times a day when you have an onset of Covid symptoms or any virus for that matter? Read this study a few months ago & was reminded about it when listening to a podcast last night.
www.bioresearchcommunications.com/index.php/brc/article/view/176/159
I'd give it a go as an experiment & can report back here with results. If you happen to try this make sure you don't swallow the solution it can inflame your thyroid.
Haven't had any jabs, no PCR tests. This will be my $9 Covid treatment with no cost to you, the tax payer.
I bought some the other week.
www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/buy/1160/betadine-concentrated-sore-throat-gargle---sore-throat-treatment---15ml
Yeh I'm giving it a crack. Might reduce the viral load if exposed in the throat and nasal
passage. Then again it could very well do sweet Fck all - kinda like vaccines I've had
Okay, I will bite. I can't resist the bait.
You two are going to rinse a solution of Iodine down your nose and throat once you get symptoms of Covid? Or anyway, before any symptoms?
You do realise that you are in WA and that there is next to no cases of Covid at the moment don't you?
Even if there were, what is your 'experiment' going to prove? Nothing. We have already discussed at length that some people get it bad and some people don't even notice they have it. So your snorting of iodine is going to prove what exactly?
You may as well mix some eye-of-newt in there as well and if you survive, that's clearly the answer to the pandemic.
Let us have our fun FormulaNova it's not going to effect you don't worry. I'd rather be sick for 2 days than 5.
I've heard it recommended in a few podcasts by Drs so I want to see if it works. Who knows it might do fark all but it may work. Will be handy to know for any viruses in the future including flus.
I'm only going to do once I have some symptoms.
No, I have no problem with you doing this. It is your health choice after all.
I guess the only problem I have with it is the logic. If it fails, how would you discern it from just random chance? If it works, how would you discern it from random chance?
If you were to have symptoms and they went away straight away, was it your treatment or the way your body would have reacted anyway? Worst, what if it somehow impaired your body's immune response? Not likely, but you would never be able to know.
That Doctor McCullough though went on about, waffled if you will, about these sorts of treatments, and then got Covid himself. I wonder what went wrong there?
Stick with the eye-of-newt. It has the runs on the board.
Honestly dude you must have a severely high opinion of yourself, plus an extreme bias when you listen. I've already once corrected you about Peter Ms podcast and I can't be bothered doing it again regarding your statement regarding iodine and him getting covid - "so what went wrong". If you listened with neutral ears you wouldn't have any basis to say this whatsoever. Completely unrelated.
we are all still running around with masks that have been disqualified as useful, been put in lockdowns, forced to take a vaccine that has no treatment trials nor fda approved - with total indemnity for big pharma - and you mention discerning random chance from diagnostic surety of taking iodine.
we are in one big fcking random experiment dude.
The entire shenanigans is just spinning the wheel and see what the hell happens - whilst the spin doctor narrators take everyone on a wild ride with it.
and your incessant disqualification of a good diet / healthy living as a means to bolster your natural immunity to fight covid and any infection for that matter is intuitively outrageous. Especially when one of the major co morbidity factors for those dying from covid is obesity. Which funny enough is the major factor for dying of most diseases.
Select to expand quoteeppo said..FormulaNova said..Flying Dutchman said..FormulaNova said..eppo said..Flying Dutchman said..
Anyone have any thoughts as to rinsing a 1% Povidone Iodine solution in your nasal passages a couple times a day when you have an onset of Covid symptoms or any virus for that matter? Read this study a few months ago & was reminded about it when listening to a podcast last night.
www.bioresearchcommunications.com/index.php/brc/article/view/176/159
I'd give it a go as an experiment & can report back here with results. If you happen to try this make sure you don't swallow the solution it can inflame your thyroid.
Haven't had any jabs, no PCR tests. This will be my $9 Covid treatment with no cost to you, the tax payer.
I bought some the other week.
www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/buy/1160/betadine-concentrated-sore-throat-gargle---sore-throat-treatment---15ml
Yeh I'm giving it a crack. Might reduce the viral load if exposed in the throat and nasal
passage. Then again it could very well do sweet Fck all - kinda like vaccines I've had
Okay, I will bite. I can't resist the bait.
You two are going to rinse a solution of Iodine down your nose and throat once you get symptoms of Covid? Or anyway, before any symptoms?
You do realise that you are in WA and that there is next to no cases of Covid at the moment don't you?
Even if there were, what is your 'experiment' going to prove? Nothing. We have already discussed at length that some people get it bad and some people don't even notice they have it. So your snorting of iodine is going to prove what exactly?
You may as well mix some eye-of-newt in there as well and if you survive, that's clearly the answer to the pandemic.
Let us have our fun FormulaNova it's not going to effect you don't worry. I'd rather be sick for 2 days than 5.
I've heard it recommended in a few podcasts by Drs so I want to see if it works. Who knows it might do fark all but it may work. Will be handy to know for any viruses in the future including flus.
I'm only going to do once I have some symptoms.
No, I have no problem with you doing this. It is your health choice after all.
I guess the only problem I have with it is the logic. If it fails, how would you discern it from just random chance? If it works, how would you discern it from random chance?
If you were to have symptoms and they went away straight away, was it your treatment or the way your body would have reacted anyway? Worst, what if it somehow impaired your body's immune response? Not likely, but you would never be able to know.
That Doctor McCullough though went on about, waffled if you will, about these sorts of treatments, and then got Covid himself. I wonder what went wrong there?
Stick with the eye-of-newt. It has the runs on the board.
Honestly dude you must have a severely high opinion of yourself, plus an extreme bias when you listen. I've already once corrected you about Peter Ms podcast and I can't be bothered doing it again regarding your statement regarding iodine and him getting covid - "so what went wrong". If you listened with neutral ears you wouldn't have any basis to say this whatsoever. Completely unrelated.
we are all still running around with masks that have been disqualified as useful, been put in lockdowns, forced to take a vaccine that has no treatment trials nor fda approved - with total indemnity for big pharma - and you mention discerning random chance from diagnostic surety of taking iodine.
we are in one big fcking random experiment dude.
The entire shenanigans is just spinning the wheel and see what the hell happens - whilst the spin doctor narrators take everyone on a wild ride with it.
and your incessant disqualification of a good diet / healthy living as a means to bolster your natural immunity to fight covid and any infection for that matter is intuitively outrageous. Especially when one of the major co morbidity factors for those dying from covid is obesity. Which funny enough is the major factor for dying of most diseases.
I will have to wait until I do some decent drives to listen to that podcast again. You are entitled to your opinion, but I still think he is not as coherent as you seem to think.
Doesn't accusing me of having a high opinion of myself effectively highlight your own opinion of yourself? You are judging me, right? Against yourself.
A good diet doesn't mean you are superman. Being obese is a very different thing. It is not a matter of being one or the other, yet you seem to be drawing the line that not having a good diet = obese.
How many people are actually malnourished?
For all this belief that some people have about 'a good diet' equaling a great immune system, I haven't seen any medical proof at all. Nothing. Being malnourished is one thing, but how many people are really malnourished?
It sounds like a convenient way for you and others to try and justify why some people have died and why it will not be you... without any actual factual data.
Neutral ears? The guy is terrible for validating his claims and your own understanding of it seems pretty poor. For someone with three degrees, your comprehension and ability to filter information sucks.
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Ah good on ya for listening. I encourage others to listen as well. He actually said omicron is far more infectious than delta but has far less consequences - not as destructive a delta. He thinks it could be an evolutionary mistake on behalf of the virus but time will tell. It seems we all listen (including me) with our own bias glasses and ears on.
Just for the sake of discussion, here is part of a transcript. Up until now I have assumed transmissibility is equivalent to infectious in this context. Is that not right? From the transcript below Dr McCullough seems to say that Omicron is less transmissible than Delta, not what you have said.
(apologies for the quality of the transcript as I think they must have use some speech to text program to do it.)
Dr. Peter McCullough The initial.you can actually do modeling studies based on what we know the code and the code is known very quickly. Dr. Fantini out of France did modeling studies, let it on our networks. We found out quickly. The transmissibility to give you a perspective for the Wuhan wild type, the original virus, the transmissibility number transmissibility index was about two.
Dr. Peter McCullough The transmissibility of Delta, which has really been hard to treat. I think Delta has been way harder. You may have had Delta. I had Alpha. You may have had Delta.
Dr. Peter McCullough You could have still had Alpha, but transmissibility Delta .ten. You know what the transmissible Omicron is? Four. So for the first time, we've actually gone down in transmissibility and probably because the spike protein and the receptor binding domain where it binds to the ace two receptors so dysmorphic that it actually can't invade the body as much. So that explains we haven't heard about these fulminant pulmonary syndromes.
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Dr. Peter McCullough But I'm predicting right now I think it's going to be like Ada and Lambda because it's less transmissible than Delta. I think it will carve out its own ecological niche, but there would be no reason for it to supplant Delta unless it basically becomes almost like an infection of preference for the vaccinated.
Here is another pearler where he tries to make out that a vaccine made people HIV positive... but after being alarmist and sensational, he backtracks and then says they didn't have HIV. No kidding. So what. BUT "It was suppressed" he says... funny, over here it was in the news and they cancelled that vaccine trial immediately because of the negative issues associated with people thinking that it could cause HIV.
Well, bugger me, here are a few links to this exact thing on news.com.au - what is the definition of suppressed in the USA? It must mean something else?
www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/coronavirus-australia-pfizer-vaccine-warning-after-allergic-reactions/live-coverage/ee4250880885b9723f9da3185fdf6037
www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/university-of-queensland-covid19-vaccine-australias-secret-weapon-against-coronavirus/news-story/3fe8643c14738704ec2eb1bc24cfe4fa
Dr. Peter McCullough But one of the original antigenic vaccines that was tested in Australia exposed that HIV epitope. It turned everybody in the trial HIV positive, who took a Covid 19 vaccine in Australia. These young people were outraged. And so this was on the Internet. It was quickly suppressed.
Dr. Peter McCullough But if anybody wants to type this in right now, you can actually learn that one of the very first vaccines trial in Australia actually turned everybody HIV positive. They didn't have HIV. But there was a molecular trickery that was going on. Having said this. Now, when we look back, when we look at the books, Popper Breggin, Robert F. Kennedy and now Atlas, it's pretty clear that this was planned and it was planned.
Dr. Peter McCullough And the elements of the mass psychosis are clearly planned. In fact, the elements of the mass psychosis are in the Johns Hopkins planning document. They had that up on their website since 2017. Once the pandemic hit in March of 2020, they actually published it in the peer review literature.
^^ What does this mean? To me he is alluding to it being a conspiracy and in this case 'pre-planned'. There are heaps of references to this sort of stuff throughout the interview.
Select to expand quoteall still running around with masks that have been disqualified as useful, been put in lockdowns, forced to take a vaccine that has no treatment trials nor fda approved - with total indemnity for big pharma - and you mention discerning random chance from diagnostic surety of taking iodine.
we are in one big fcking random experiment dude.
whiles I don't agree with any of the mitigation measures in place, it's a bridge too far to suggest it's a "random" experiment. There's some awesome minds working on this (admittedly most got it all wrong) , the vaccines do elicit antibodies, new variants just mean a further delayed immune response which has gotten so far it's almost worthless, I can't find a good paper on it but Quercetin (40mg in an onion; great source) homeostasis is suggested block virus cell entry and replication. The only reason to stick with the vax is it's too hard to get people to eat well (cue FN) . And the masks offer so little benefit that the benefit can't be proven outside a lab but that's not to say no benefit. And I can assure you that severe lockdowns can reduce transmission, they're just far too damaging to society to ever be worthwhile.
So there's some great science in it, just being very poorly applied by a bunch of numpties to serve the will of other inferior specimen.
NSW numbers seem to have steadied a little for now
What will the peak numbers per day be for nsw?
Select to expand quoteevlPanda said..
Lockdowns were an attempt to slow the spread and especially the variations, dude.
The first wave of The Spanish Flu weren't so unusual and affected the old and/or the sick.
The second wave, and we still don't know why, affected mostly healthy people in their twenties.
"Unusually, the Spanish flu affected healthy young adults much more than its usual targets: children, the elderly or those with weakened immune systems." - www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/influenza-pandemic
It looks like the virus is mutating itself into weaker variations, like Omicron, so that's good. But while it's still living in everyone and partying and ****ing other diseases they have in them at the time we'll get variations. There'll be a a few more yet.
Also, not locking down doesn't work either; everyone gets sick. Even this week in Sydney plenty of shops have notices that they are shutting down simply because too many of their staff are too sick to work. Everyone remaining is overworked. After what, two weeks of this outbreak?
i.e. you'll be locked down anyway, and sick as a dog.
Personally I think NSW didn't lock down hard and fast enough. It seemed like everyone was screaming to do so. If we did when that last Delta outbreak started we could have locked down for a couple of weeks instead of what we had to in the end. Like, d'uh. The guv'ment sort of did a half-arsed job, and ended up in this odd, in-between place, where we locked down really ineffectually, for a very long time.
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On a different, perhaps, happier note: Seems long term effects of COVID-19 include brain damage. 
Cognitive deficits in people who have recovered from COVID-19
www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(21)00324-2/fulltext
Especially in men:
Brain injury, endothelial injury and inflammatory markers are elevated and express sex-specific alterations after COVID-19
jneuroinflammation.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12974-021-02323-8
You lose your sense of taste and smell not because your nerves are ****ed up, but because your brain is. Just what we need; more dumberer people.
I have no problem with the initial efforts to reduce spread until we knew more and hospital capacity could be increased. As initially proposed to flatten the curve. What happened in Australia was most governments pursued a zero covid approach and did nothing to hospitals whatsoever. Qld is a great example of that, it's hospitals are in even worse condition than when covid started despite no cases.
It's the subsequent efforts to pursue zero covid through lockdowns (262 days of lockdowns in Melbourne) and the ongoing mandating of vaccines, masks and closure of schools with no real science behind it. The stats of places like Florida that did none of these things can't be argued with. They made no difference in the end.
nypost.com/2021/10/28/florida-gov-ron-desantis-has-shown-how-to-handle-covid-19/
Select to expand quoteTonyAbbott said..
NSW numbers seem to have steadied a little for now
What will the peak numbers per day be for nsw?
People are giving up getting tested, so case numbers will drop, what's the point now. If you get tested and found to be positive you have to isolate for an extended period even if mild symptoms. If you found not isolating $5000 fine.
So, don't get tested and stay home until you feel better, just like a cold.
Select to expand quoteairsail said..TonyAbbott said..
NSW numbers seem to have steadied a little for now
What will the peak numbers per day be for nsw?
People are giving up getting tested, so case numbers will drop, what's the point now. If you get tested and found to be positive you have to isolate for an extended period even if mild symptoms. If you found not isolating $5000 fine.
So, don't get tested and stay home until you feel better, just like a cold.
Same for QR self check
Do it right police might knock at your door and arrest you (quarantine at the govs gulag w you paying, no work etc etc).
Pretend you check, if you hear anything about exposure sites you might decide to:
-get tested
-go seek medical care if you been hit hard and develop symptoms
Bottom line is : you are a sheep - QR check
You have common sense: live your life as normal and only seek help if needed.
Happy 2022
Select to expand quoteairsail said
People are giving up getting tested, so case numbers will drop, what's the point now. If you get tested and found to be positive you have to isolate for an extended period even if mild symptoms. If you found not isolating $5000 fine.
So, don't get tested and stay home until you feel better, just like a cold.
Your right, people are giving up testing. The beach town I work in has a population of about 7000, have had like a handful of cases in the last 2 years, no real dramas. Everyone testing all the time.
Now 6 people I work with have it, ones in hospital, plenty of others in town with sore throats/runny noses etc but very few get tested anymore.
Some wear masks, plenty dont wear masks. People signing in is getting less and less.
Majority around here are just living life as normal and only getting tested if really really sick and need medical treatment.
Most here are vaxed and just enjoying life as normal now, traveling OS, live bands etc, back to how it was before covid.
The only place people seem worried and talking about it now is the unvaxed few on here, I can understand your fear I guess
Select to expand quotelotofwind said..
The only place people seem worried and talking about it now is the unvaxed few on here, I can understand your fear I guess
Yeah the unvaxxed are so worried about Covid
they decided to not get vaxxed. Good logic.
Well they are spending days and days searching for magic home remedies and researching youtube and twitter for help.
I dont think anyone would do that if they weren't worried.
If they weren't worried they would be out enjoying life, not talking about it non stop on the interwebs?
Select to expand quotelotofwind said..
Well they are spending days and days searching for magic home remedies and researching youtube and twitter for help.
I dont think anyone would do that if they weren't worried.
If they weren't worried they would be out enjoying life, not talking about it non stop on the interwebs?
Only thing I'm concerned about is adverse reactions from the vaccination so yes I researched it.
You're worried about Covid so you got vaccinated. Im not worried about Covid but I am worried about adverse reactions so I'm not vaccinated.
We're all worried about something.
And as far as spending time on the interwebs may I highlight some statistics, namely posts on seabreeze?
Flying Dutchman - 456
lotofwind - 6217
Lools like I am getting out more.
Oh sorry, must have been thinking of someone else, I thought it was you researching and experimenting with Iodine experiments to beat covid.
Couldnt be bothered going back pages to see who it was researching for home remedies, sorry for the mix up.
Select to expand quotelotofwind said..
Oh sorry, must have been thinking of someone else, I thought it was you researching and experimenting with Iodine experiments to beat covid.
Couldnt be bothered going back pages to see who it was researching for home remedies, sorry for the mix up.
I'm not sure why doing a harmless Iodine remedy triggers you so much? You don't even know what's in the vaccines because the pharmaceuticals won't publish the ingredients but you're happy to inject it.
My health condition is excellent. When I go to the MDs and they do the blood tests they ask me what my diet is because all the parameters are perfect.
No smoking, no alcohol, no coffee, no drugs, 99% plant based diet, only drink water, coconut water and home made juices.
So I find some compelling evidence to show that a 1% Providone Iodine solution can help limit virus symptoms.
You should be encouraging people making such a commitment to health rather than ridiculing them.
lol, so it was you that was worried about catching it and looking for cures.
You sound like you are fit so dont worry about researching cures and stressing about it, just carry on enjoying life. No covid in WA anyways.
Winds up, time to hit the water, see ya
Select to expand quotelotofwind said..
lol, so it was you that was worried about catching it and looking for cures.
You sound like you are fit so dont worry about researching cures and stressing about it, just carry on enjoying life. No covid in WA anyways.
Winds up, time to hit the water, see ya
Enjoy your sailing!
And to be clear I said "help limit virus symptoms", not 'cure'. Don't twist words!
Select to expand quoteFlying Dutchman said..lotofwind said..
Oh sorry, must have been thinking of someone else, I thought it was you researching and experimenting with Iodine experiments to beat covid.
Couldnt be bothered going back pages to see who it was researching for home remedies, sorry for the mix up.
I'm not sure why doing a harmless Iodine remedy triggers you so much? You don't even know what's in the vaccines because the pharmaceuticals won't publish the ingredients but you're happy to inject it.
My health condition is excellent. When I go to the MDs and they do the blood tests they ask me what my diet is because all the parameters are perfect.
No smoking, no alcohol, no coffee, no drugs, 99% plant based diet, only drink water, coconut water and home made juices.
So I find some compelling evidence to show that a 1% Providone Iodine solution can help limit virus symptoms.
You should be encouraging people making such a commitment to health rather than ridiculing them.
What a crock of **** - the numbers in each of these aren't enough to show any benefit and theyre a few hundred million less than the shown effectiveness of even AZ.
Your clutching at straws - why not just inject disinfectant with Ivermectin and chloroquine
FFS this thread is so full of ****
Select to expand quoteFlying Dutchman said..lotofwind said..
Oh sorry, must have been thinking of someone else, I thought it was you researching and experimenting with Iodine experiments to beat covid.
Couldnt be bothered going back pages to see who it was researching for home remedies, sorry for the mix up.
I'm not sure why doing a harmless Iodine remedy triggers you so much? You don't even know what's in the vaccines because the pharmaceuticals won't publish the ingredients but you're happy to inject it.
My health condition is excellent. When I go to the MDs and they do the blood tests they ask me what my diet is because all the parameters are perfect.
No smoking, no alcohol, no coffee, no drugs, 99% plant based diet, only drink water, coconut water and home made juices.
So I find some compelling evidence to show that a 1% Providone Iodine solution can help limit virus symptoms.
You should be encouraging people making such a commitment to health rather than ridiculing them.
Its a shame there isn't some kind of passive filtration device that you could wear over your nose and mouth.
Thanks guys, you're too kind haha
minerva-access.unimelb.edu.au/handle/11343/277708
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Well they are spending days and days searching for magic home remedies and researching youtube and twitter for help.
I dont think anyone would do that if they weren't worried.
If they weren't worried they would be out enjoying life, not talking about it non stop on the interwebs?
Nope i'm unvaxed and I don't have Fakebook or Twitter I use Telegram. I don't use Youtube I use Rumble. I don't eat healthier because i'm worried about omicron, I eat healthier because we are being discriminated against and can not get medical treatment from a hospital anymore. I am more careful not to injure myself as well because I sure as hell don't want to ever require any blood donations. The blood banks don't seperate vaccinated and unvaccinated donations here in Australia.
Anyway I'm certain I have already had Omicron last week, I have been trying my best to catch it then on Saturday morning I woke up with a headache and a fever, my temperature only got up to only 37.4 tho by midday just out of curiosity I took a dose of ivermectin, zinc vitamin C and D and rested. 6 hours later I felt 90% better but had a little bit of a sore throat by midnight I felt 99% just a slight dry throat.
I don't ever remember having a flu that started with a fever and completely disappeared after just 12 hours. The next day my wife got the same symptoms as I had and it was my sons birthday so we had a party/bbq and I cooked for everyone and told them we probability have omicron.
I was going to buy a test out of curiosity but not let it touch me and just spit on it but i didn't want to fund the bastards. We then went out and enjoyed the new years eve fireworks and went to the shopping centre on new years day. Had a blast picking my nose and touching everything.
Select to expand quoteParadox said..evlPanda said..
Lockdowns were an attempt to slow the spread and especially the variations, dude.
The first wave of The Spanish Flu weren't so unusual and affected the old and/or the sick.
The second wave, and we still don't know why, affected mostly healthy people in their twenties.
"Unusually, the Spanish flu affected healthy young adults much more than its usual targets: children, the elderly or those with weakened immune systems." - www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/influenza-pandemic
It looks like the virus is mutating itself into weaker variations, like Omicron, so that's good. But while it's still living in everyone and partying and ****ing other diseases they have in them at the time we'll get variations. There'll be a a few more yet.
Also, not locking down doesn't work either; everyone gets sick. Even this week in Sydney plenty of shops have notices that they are shutting down simply because too many of their staff are too sick to work. Everyone remaining is overworked. After what, two weeks of this outbreak?
i.e. you'll be locked down anyway, and sick as a dog.
Personally I think NSW didn't lock down hard and fast enough. It seemed like everyone was screaming to do so. If we did when that last Delta outbreak started we could have locked down for a couple of weeks instead of what we had to in the end. Like, d'uh. The guv'ment sort of did a half-arsed job, and ended up in this odd, in-between place, where we locked down really ineffectually, for a very long time.
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On a different, perhaps, happier note: Seems long term effects of COVID-19 include brain damage.
Cognitive deficits in people who have recovered from COVID-19
www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(21)00324-2/fulltext
Especially in men:
Brain injury, endothelial injury and inflammatory markers are elevated and express sex-specific alterations after COVID-19
jneuroinflammation.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12974-021-02323-8
You lose your sense of taste and smell not because your nerves are ****ed up, but because your brain is. Just what we need; more dumberer people.
I have no problem with the initial efforts to reduce spread until we knew more and hospital capacity could be increased. As initially proposed to flatten the curve. What happened in Australia was most governments pursued a zero covid approach and did nothing to hospitals whatsoever. Qld is a great example of that, it's hospitals are in even worse condition than when covid started despite no cases.
It's the subsequent efforts to pursue zero covid through lockdowns (262 days of lockdowns in Melbourne) and the ongoing mandating of vaccines, masks and closure of schools with no real science behind it. The stats of places like Florida that did none of these things can't be argued with. They made no difference in the end.
nypost.com/2021/10/28/florida-gov-ron-desantis-has-shown-how-to-handle-covid-19/
I totally agree with you on Qld. Hospitals weren't fixed during that time. Very slack.
But how can you say there is no science behind masks and lockdowns and such by comparing Florida and Victoria?
The numbers speak for themselves. It's not a 10% difference or anything.
The evidence is that they do work. And obviously.
presenting Florida as an example is flat earth stuff, for me. Genuinely curious how the **** one can come to that conclusion.
