Select to expand quoteVelocicraptor said..PeterP said..
Turning not as good as Kujira but on a wing it is super fun as the speed and glide is next level.
Which Kujira are you comparing to? The dims don't look like anything I've seen from Takuma yet.
Would be really interesting to get a comparison between Eagle 790 / Cabrinha H Series 800 / Lift 120 HA. Fairly similar on paper (775-800 area, 9.5-10.2 AR), but I'm curious about the ride nuances.
Kujira 750
2nd day on Eagle 890 today. Rode it in the flats a couple days ago on 85cm mast then today in 1/2 m swells on 95cm HM mast. Needed to move the mast back on the box a couple of cm to get the balance sorted compared to the Phantom 940 (which was my goto). Very happy with this foil so far. Could be a one foil quivver for me at 75kg wet. It feels like we are starting to get somewhere near the performance of a quality kitefoil now with much better upwind angles and speed. Its plenty lifty enough for my weight. Rode it with 5.2 Mojo in 10-12 knots which built to 10-15. 58l board. I doubt I would need a bigger foil. Turns very nicely and doesnt develop uncontrollable lift when carved hard. Great glide. Blew quite a few backside tacks until I sorted out how hard to carve it. The Phantom still trumps it for carving and a smoother lift curve through the speed range, but not by much. This will definitely become my daily driver and the Phantom 940 will be for days when the swells have plenty of power.
Select to expand quoteSlyde said..
Rode it in the flats a couple days ago on 85cm mast then today in 1/2 m swells on 95cm HM mast.
How much better are the HM masts compared to the V1 carbon mast and the Alu mast?
Select to expand quoteCamarillo said..Slyde said..
Rode it in the flats a couple days ago on 85cm mast then today in 1/2 m swells on 95cm HM mast.
How much better are the HM masts compared to the V1 carbon mast and the Alu mast?
The 95HM is stiffer than the normal carbon 85
Eagle 1090 Review
I have just changed from Axis ART series over to this brand/line-up. I was previously frustrated adjustments to make the ART series work - these foils are a good intermediate and entry level foil, but the better I got, the more I was noticing more issues. When really pushing the 799 I was often hesitant, as I knew at any point over 45kph the foil could just explode and often did. Tearing countless wings in spectacular crashes. Or when really banking a hard turn or going fast, the front wing tips would flex, this felt unsettled and not smooth.
I often felt I had to change down in foil size to get comfortable, and have experienced my fair share of swims after falling off too small a foil.
I've now been riding the Eagle for a good few sessions and am totally blown away, riding this foil with a 4'0 x 44L board and the 95HM mast. Initially this was bought as just a super light wind option, but I've carried this quite high in the range and never felt over powered ( c. 25-30knots).
This foil ticks every single box for me, and I've seen it prove itself in super light conditions - when I'm the only person on foil and very comfortably powered, able to still sail around when everyone is still floating. The height is unreal, the winglets let you really point hard, I've sailed in a very cruisy low mode beneath other riders and climbed well above, pointing much higher.
Glide is superb and I have no issues. A test of mine has been to historically try and pump back to the beach through a 500m+wind shadow. I often could get some distance, but would swim most of the way on the ART, I've never had to swim on the Eagle.
Speed is unreal, this foil is so balanced, I'm still adjusting to it all.
As mentioned I would be cautious when above 20 knots on the ART, as I knew at any point I could explode the foil. I previously tried -1 tail shim, speed tails and coke can strips on the front wing. But felt you fix one problem and sacrifice something else.
The Eagle just holds on, you can just keep pushing and pushing with nothing to fear, I'm now hitting very similar speeds to the 799 on a much bigger foil.
The liveliness is another huge perk, how responsive it feels is amazing, and yet I can still feel like I'm riding my surf skate. I can throw big turns, and I know I'll always be fine.
All in all, this foil is great - It is expensive in Aus, but I can't fault it. I spent much more on band-aids and trying the next latest foil to be equally let down or chasing a solution to new problems. I will look at getting a 790 soon, but for now, I'm having a blast!
Thanks for the review. This Foil is next on my list. Can't get it in the US until next month or so they say
For now, I'm testing the limits of the Seven Seas 1200.
10-30knots for now (with the 210DW tail). Very smooth and predictable even on high wind. I have yet felt the need
to switch to the Phantom 940 as it is well behaved on high speed. Not as fast but the glide is sweet, can't wait to take the
Eagle for a spin.
I switched with a buddy of mine today, took is RS 1150 for a spin to compare mental notes on the two foils
He disappeared for an hour, I guess he forgot all about his RS
Select to expand quoteKing Crash said..
When really pushing the 799 I was often hesitant, as I knew at any point over 45kph the foil could just explode and often did. Tearing countless wings in spectacular crashes.
Is it the front wing that was creating turbulence? Me
it was the mast, when i was startinf to see a large band of whitewater behind my mast.i knew i would soon have a great % that the foil will fall down the sky! Often upwind with close chop to each other.
Select to expand quoteNordRoi said..King Crash said..
When really pushing the 799 I was often hesitant, as I knew at any point over 45kph the foil could just explode and often did. Tearing countless wings in spectacular crashes.
Is it the front wing that was creating turbulence? Me
it was the mast, when i was startinf to see a large band of whitewater behind my mast.i knew i would soon have a great % that the foil will fall down the sky! Often upwind with close chop to each other.
I thought this too, but I tried various solutions (alloy, wet sand, fill & fair) nothing made it any better. This was a pretty big issue on the v2 Carbon. The Fone Carbon hasn't grieved me once.
Had 2 sessions on the Eagle 1090 and the 890. I'm impressed.
The thing that stood out for me the most was how accessible these foils are.
From all the high aspect foils I've tested (most of the known brands) these high aspect foils are the most user friendly.
I tried these on new boards that I haven't ridden before without any special setup. Low stall speed so no weird drops while
trying to get up.
I got the 890 on a sinker board (60 Liter for my 88kg) so had to do a water start with a 3.5M Strike V2. 15-25knots was enough
to get up on the gust and fly. I deliberately rode it as slow as possible but to see what is the low end and it's pretty impressive.
Apologies if this is common knowledge or discussed earlier...
Anyone know the thickness of the F-one aluminum mast? I'm just curious if it's even remotely as stiff as an Axis 19mm, could probably have an adapter made and I already own it. I see the HM carbon is about 14.5mm which is the equivalent of the original Axis carbon (but no $1.5K masts thanks).
I was just looking over and flexing various parts on an Eagle 1090 and along with the reviews here I'm impressed enough to demo one. I'd be interested in the 990 / 85cm, and this 1090 at the shop was attached to the 105cm HM carbon so I'd assume the system I'm interested in would have that much more of a solid feel. Frankly, the stuff is so light it's a little scary.
Anyway, can't demo F-one products in North America's windsports mecca, the local dealer has declined my inquiries
As luck would have it there's an F-one demo center down the street from where I spend much of the winter, I'm sure they'll be happy to take my two grand and with the euro at par it looks like nearly 400 bucks savings over US pricing.
Select to expand quoteThatspec said..
Anyway, can't demo F-one products in North America's windsports mecca, the local dealer has declined my inquiries
PM me. I'm leaving tomorrow evening but wind forecast looks good for tomorrow so we can meet and you'll
be able to demo my eagle 1090. I have a 75 F-one aluminum mast so that should answer all your questions.
Be interested in a review of the 1090. I have recently ridden a Seven Seas 1200 and it was very easy to ride out of the box. I have ordered one it went so well.
Select to expand quoteThatspec said..
Apologies if this is common knowledge or discussed earlier...
Anyone know the thickness of the F-one aluminum mast? I'm just curious if it's even remotely as stiff as an Axis 19mm, could probably have an adapter made and I already own it. I see the HM carbon is about 14.5mm which is the equivalent of the original Axis carbon (but no $1.5K masts thanks).
I was just looking over and flexing various parts on an Eagle 1090 and along with the reviews here I'm impressed enough to demo one. I'd be interested in the 990 / 85cm, and this 1090 at the shop was attached to the 105cm HM carbon so I'd assume the system I'm interested in would have that much more of a solid feel. Frankly, the stuff is so light it's a little scary.
Anyway, can't demo F-one products in North America's windsports mecca, the local dealer has declined my inquiries
As luck would have it there's an F-one demo center down the street from where I spend much of the winter, I'm sure they'll be happy to take my two grand and with the euro at par it looks like nearly 400 bucks savings over US pricing.
I tried the Eagle 990 alu mast and it flexed. It's not as thick or stiff as the axis 19mm mast
Select to expand quotejohndg said..
Be interested in a review of the 1090. I have recently ridden a Seven Seas 1200 and it was very easy to ride out of the box. I have ordered one it went so well.
Scroll up...
Thanks. I have a habit of starting at the bottom of the post when I should be at the top.
Select to expand quoteAlysum said..
I tried the Eagle 990 alu mast and it flexed. It's not as thick or stiff as the axis 19mm mast
Thanks, kinda figured as much (nothing seems to be as solid), but never really heard anyone actually complain about it in print.
Select to expand quoteburchas said..Thatspec said..
Anyway, can't demo F-one products in North America's windsports mecca, the local dealer has declined my inquiries
PM me. I'm leaving tomorrow evening but wind forecast looks good for tomorrow so we can meet and you'll
be able to demo my eagle 1090. I have a 75 F-one aluminum mast so that should answer all your questions.
Too bad about the wind today Burchas, the forest fire smoke just killed the heating. The forecasts have so far been unable to compensate for the new normal. Thanks! I'll get a ride on one in couple of months in Fuerte, these guys have a nice setup (and webcam), lineupwebstore.com/
Corralejo is kinda tacky but the sea is Azure and the North shore pumps big bumps all winter, have to use a 5.0 a lot though, Northern hemi summer is the windy season.
Select to expand quoteKing Crash said..
Eagle 1090 Review
I have just changed from Axis ART series over to this brand/line-up. I was previously frustrated adjustments to make the ART series work - these foils are a good intermediate and entry level foil, but the better I got, the more I was noticing more issues. When really pushing the 799 I was often hesitant, as I knew at any point over 45kph the foil could just explode and often did. Tearing countless wings in spectacular crashes. Or when really banking a hard turn or going fast, the front wing tips would flex, this felt unsettled and not smooth.
I often felt I had to change down in foil size to get comfortable, and have experienced my fair share of swims after falling off too small a foil.
I've now been riding the Eagle for a good few sessions and am totally blown away, riding this foil with a 4'0 x 44L board and the 95HM mast. Initially this was bought as just a super light wind option, but I've carried this quite high in the range and never felt over powered ( c. 25-30knots).
This foil ticks every single box for me, and I've seen it prove itself in super light conditions - when I'm the only person on foil and very comfortably powered, able to still sail around when everyone is still floating. The height is unreal, the winglets let you really point hard, I've sailed in a very cruisy low mode beneath other riders and climbed well above, pointing much higher.
Glide is superb and I have no issues. A test of mine has been to historically try and pump back to the beach through a 500m+wind shadow. I often could get some distance, but would swim most of the way on the ART, I've never had to swim on the Eagle.
Speed is unreal, this foil is so balanced, I'm still adjusting to it all.
As mentioned I would be cautious when above 20 knots on the ART, as I knew at any point I could explode the foil. I previously tried -1 tail shim, speed tails and coke can strips on the front wing. But felt you fix one problem and sacrifice something else.
The Eagle just holds on, you can just keep pushing and pushing with nothing to fear, I'm now hitting very similar speeds to the 799 on a much bigger foil.
The liveliness is another huge perk, how responsive it feels is amazing, and yet I can still feel like I'm riding my surf skate. I can throw big turns, and I know I'll always be fine.
All in all, this foil is great - It is expensive in Aus, but I can't fault it. I spent much more on band-aids and trying the next latest foil to be equally let down or chasing a solution to new problems. I will look at getting a 790 soon, but for now, I'm having a blast!
Nice review mate, Can I ask your weight and what fuse and stab your running? I'm 100kgs and thinking of getting two foil quiver Eagle 1090 and SS1000 or SS 1400 & SS1000.... I'm over Armie and Axis, I use Cedrus so I can just change brands with the purchase of adapter.
Past two days I have been demoing the SS1200 with the DW210 and have found it is much nicer set up with the XS fuse for pump glide and carry and still carves smoothly.
Tomorrow I will hopefully get out for a 26km Downwinder to really see what it's like in better conditions.
Cheers
Select to expand quoteKing Crash said..Select to expand quoteEagle 1090 ReviewSelect to expand quote Select to expand quoteI have just changed from Axis ART series over to this brand/line-up. I was previously frustrated adjustments to make the ART series work - these foils are a good intermediate and entry level foil, but the better I got, the more I was noticing more issues. When really pushing the 799 I was often hesitant, as I knew at any point over 45kph the foil could just explode and often did. Tearing countless wings in spectacular crashes. Or when really banking a hard turn or going fast, the front wing tips would flex, this felt unsettled and not smooth.Select to expand quoteI often felt I had to change down in foil size to get comfortable, and have experienced my fair share of swims after falling off too small a foil.Select to expand quote Select to expand quoteI've now been riding the Eagle for a good few sessions and am totally blown away, riding this foil with a 4'0 x 44L board and the 95HM mast. Initially this was bought as just a super light wind option, but I've carried this quite high in the range and never felt over powered ( c. 25-30knots).Select to expand quote Select to expand quoteThis foil ticks every single box for me, and I've seen it prove itself in super light conditions - when I'm the only person on foil and very comfortably powered, able to still sail around when everyone is still floating. The height is unreal, the winglets let you really point hard, I've sailed in a very cruisy low mode beneath other riders and climbed well above, pointing much higher.Select to expand quote Select to expand quoteGlide is superb and I have no issues. A test of mine has been to historically try and pump back to the beach through a 500m+wind shadow. I often could get some distance, but would swim most of the way on the ART, I've never had to swim on the Eagle.Select to expand quote Select to expand quoteSpeed is unreal, this foil is so balanced, I'm still adjusting to it all.Select to expand quoteAs mentioned I would be cautious when above 20 knots on the ART, as I knew at any point I could explode the foil. I previously tried -1 tail shim, speed tails and coke can strips on the front wing. But felt you fix one problem and sacrifice something else.Select to expand quoteThe Eagle just holds on, you can just keep pushing and pushing with nothing to fear, I'm now hitting very similar speeds to the 799 on a much bigger foil.Select to expand quote Select to expand quoteThe liveliness is another huge perk, how responsive it feels is amazing, and yet I can still feel like I'm riding my surf skate. I can throw big turns, and I know I'll always be fine.Select to expand quote Select to expand quoteAll in all, this foil is great - It is expensive in Aus, but I can't fault it. I spent much more on band-aids and trying the next latest foil to be equally let down or chasing a solution to new problems. I will look at getting a 790 soon, but for now, I'm having a blast!Select to expand quoteI read your review with great interest as I am an Axis ART fan and have 899, 799 and 699 with 325p stab on advanced fuselage with 90cm HM mast.
What stabiliser did you use?
I also know a guy who is 120kg and has the 1099 and frequently does over 20kn to I think his maximum is 25kn with none of the issues you had.Select to expand quote
Select to expand quotewarwickl said..King Crash said..Eagle 1090 ReviewI have just changed from Axis ART series over to this brand/line-up. I was previously frustrated adjustments to make the ART series work - these foils are a good intermediate and entry level foil, but the better I got, the more I was noticing more issues. When really pushing the 799 I was often hesitant, as I knew at any point over 45kph the foil could just explode and often did. Tearing countless wings in spectacular crashes. Or when really banking a hard turn or going fast, the front wing tips would flex, this felt unsettled and not smooth.I often felt I had to change down in foil size to get comfortable, and have experienced my fair share of swims after falling off too small a foil.I've now been riding the Eagle for a good few sessions and am totally blown away, riding this foil with a 4'0 x 44L board and the 95HM mast. Initially this was bought as just a super light wind option, but I've carried this quite high in the range and never felt over powered ( c. 25-30knots).This foil ticks every single box for me, and I've seen it prove itself in super light conditions - when I'm the only person on foil and very comfortably powered, able to still sail around when everyone is still floating. The height is unreal, the winglets let you really point hard, I've sailed in a very cruisy low mode beneath other riders and climbed well above, pointing much higher.Glide is superb and I have no issues. A test of mine has been to historically try and pump back to the beach through a 500m+wind shadow. I often could get some distance, but would swim most of the way on the ART, I've never had to swim on the Eagle.Speed is unreal, this foil is so balanced, I'm still adjusting to it all.As mentioned I would be cautious when above 20 knots on the ART, as I knew at any point I could explode the foil. I previously tried -1 tail shim, speed tails and coke can strips on the front wing. But felt you fix one problem and sacrifice something else.The Eagle just holds on, you can just keep pushing and pushing with nothing to fear, I'm now hitting very similar speeds to the 799 on a much bigger foil.The liveliness is another huge perk, how responsive it feels is amazing, and yet I can still feel like I'm riding my surf skate. I can throw big turns, and I know I'll always be fine.All in all, this foil is great - It is expensive in Aus, but I can't fault it. I spent much more on band-aids and trying the next latest foil to be equally let down or chasing a solution to new problems. I will look at getting a 790 soon, but for now, I'm having a blast!I read your review with great interest as I am an Axis ART fan and have 899, 799 and 699 with 325p stab on advanced fuselage with 90cm HM mast.
What stabiliser did you use?
I also know a guy who is 120kg and has the 1099 and frequently does over 20kn to I think his maximum is 25kn with none of the issues you had.
Just the recommended dw210 tail. The c190 apparently can go faster and Mr. Bennetts has cut his down to 130 to turn harder. Just start with the 210 and choose if you want more. I haven't bothered as I've been pretty happy!
Select to expand quotewarwickl said..
I meant what stabiliser with the Axis ARTs?
350p, 380 HA, 420 HA, 400 HA.
Depends on what you're doing. Still preferred the 380 HA for most...
So has anyone tried the 2 new Eagle sizes especially the 1290? 
Surprised very little chat about those amazing foils. Hands down the best HA foils at the moment.
Hi, thinking about cut the winglets of my 890, someone here have done that? Trying to get some review about that, also where and how to cut.??
Hi, thinking about cut the winglets of my 890, someone here have done that? Trying to get some review about that, also where and how to cut.??
Select to expand quoteSammyJ said.
Nice review mate, Can I ask your weight and what fuse and stab your running? I'm 100kgs and thinking of getting two foil quiver Eagle 1090 and SS1000 or SS 1400 & SS1000.... I'm over Armie and Axis, I use Cedrus so I can just change brands with the purchase of adapter.
Past two days I have been demoing the SS1200 with the DW210 and have found it is much nicer set up with the XS fuse for pump glide and carry and still carves smoothly.
Tomorrow I will hopefully get out for a 26km Downwinder to really see what it's like in better conditions.
Cheers
I would go SS1400 and Eagle 990. The 990 is faster than the SS1000, almost same stall speed, maybe a hair harder to get up and go.....but a lot more glide, specially if you are talking about downwinder. It carve more as a SS1200, than a ss1000. I did not tried the Eagle 1290 however vs the SS1400.
Select to expand quotechainclaudio said..
Hi, thinking about cut the winglets of my 890, someone here have done that? Trying to get some review about that, also where and how to cut.??
But why?
The winglets are not just regular winglets you see on a stab..it's very very sharp!!!
Select to expand quotechainclaudio said..
Hi, thinking about cut the winglets of my 890, someone here have done that? Trying to get some review about that, also where and how to cut.??
You can cut off the winglet where the white paint is. This is all solid carbon.
I would echo others here - don't do it. But do whatever you want, it's your foil.
Select to expand quoteNordRoi said..
The winglets are not just regular winglets you see on a stab..it's very very sharp!!!
They do look bloody scary, anyone riding the eagle have experience with the Armstrong HA too compare ?
