Select to expand quoteBoardMaverick said..BWalnut said..pitbulldoug said..BWalnut said..
Third session everything clicked. Smaller foils and sinker boards. Gybes, foot switches, everything. Only negative is that the wind came up at the end of my session and I found it impossible to manage the 2.3m ka'a at 40 knots. So, I'll have to sell this one and downsize way sooner than I expected.
Why not just keep it for little lighter days 40 kts on a parawing don't think it's ever going to be as manageable as a wing IMO just saying kinda like kiting in 40 kts is always touch and go and gusty as all hell maybe a smaller kanaha might be a good backup or stick to winging on nuking days I find the PW range is so tight based on my V1 maliko at 100kg just got Ka'a 4.2 but have not had a chance to have a go yet,couldn't fathom parawinging at 40kts hats off for trying
Reasonable question/idea for sure. I'm extremely comfortable with a wing up to close to 40 knots and am still fine with it higher than that but the upwind just sucks so bad when it's over 40+. So, my whole intent of getting the parawing was to use it when it's too much for fun on the wing and just head straight downwind. I didn't realize how hard it would be to control the 2.3m parawing on the extreme high end of things. It's not like a wing where you can depower or flag out easily. At least not from what I experienced. I was even having trouble retracting it and for a second I honestly thought I was going to have to swim back to shore lol! So, if it's up to 35 knots I'd rather be winging but over that I'd like to have a micro parawing for downwind shots.
Hi BW,
Please keep us updated with your PW journey in high winds. Why are you targeting these particular conditions and not lower winds? Is it for the wind swell or for some other reason?
On the inland lake where I ride, it takes >30kts to generate significant wind swell. I'm not sure I can invest in a tiny PW for these rare days, especially if controlling a small PW could be difficult. Perhaps I'm thinking about it wrong - but, I don't see how a PW would be useful where I ride. I wish otherwise. It looks like a great way to go DW'ing.
For me with a 5.5m2 inflatable wing in 30-40 kts, the only thing that I am able to do is to go upwind. That's b/c I use a harness. A trick I learned is to extend my harness line so that I can fly the wing overhead, not quite at 12 but at something like 11:59. It's surprisingly stable and I expect that with a smaller wing would be even more so. I think that's how I'm going to approach DW'ing.
- Stuart
BoardMaverick @ YT
Hey Stuart,
We get good swell starting at 20 knots since it's a river (Columbia River Gorge). I get crazy good low end out of the parawing sizes by doing a DW supfoil style start.
I'm trying to do a few raw-ish vlog style videos on the youtube. Here's a clip I made about what I am looking for when considering the parawing:
Select to expand quoteLong story short, I am looking for a parawing that can continue the fun when winging is not enjoyable. That's 40+ knots for me as the upwind gets really chore like.
Going upwind is always going to be a chore in anything over 30-35 knots. Doesn't matter if it's a wing or parawing. That's because the projected area of your body + board + mast etc starts to become significant relative to the size of the sail / wing, which is all that's powering you upwind. You know that's the case if you have to walk upwind with your gear.
But if you have a situation where the current is pushing you back upwind it changes the equation completely.
I've had some amazing 30+ knot sessions on my 1.8 brm. The angles aren't as good so the runs are short, but the epicness of the terrain more than makes up for it. But when it starts to get close to the 40 knot zone even on the 1.8 it's a real handful. I suspect the V2 ka'a will handle better, but comfort in sustained 40 kn might be asking a lot.
Tried my 5.4 Ka'a first time today in a bit too much wind - it was quite gusty, so hard to tell how much wind, but it was super easy getting up also with the 4.2 Flow D-wing, probably mean 18 knots gusting 25. What I can say so far is that it is very easy to handle and the stowing is even easier than the 4.2 D-wing; the lower aspect ratio, short lines and BRM canopy make a huge difference here. The packed canopy gets about as big as that of the D-wing, but the small bar makes the whole package even smaller. I felt powered up with the D-wing and of course overpowered with the Ka'a, but I could easily survive edging hard upwind, so the high end seems good and it didn't deform, just pulled a lot!
I'm just ~74 kg, hope this pw will make the 10-16 knots range (which we get a lot) far more enjoyable. Even though I haven't tried it in this range, I can safely say that I see no reason to avoid the BRM Ka'a in big sizes if you are heavy. Stoked and hoping for some light breeze 
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Anyone landed a V2 in Australia - looks like prices have gone up in the last couple of weeks.
Now $1749 for a 4m Kanaha.
Do you have any taxes / additional costs when clearing customs?
Select to expand quoteIANC said..
Anyone landed a V2 in Australia - looks like prices have gone up in the last couple of weeks.
Now $1749 for a 4m Kanaha.
Do you have any taxes / additional costs when clearing customs?
Yeah, BRM subscribers got a mail explaining that they were going to raise prices by ~10%, but remove the shipping cost of 60 USD. I would guess the demand has been huge and would say it's fairly priced as they seem to be market leaders again. I didn't get any extra costs after mine arrived, but I live in Europe.
Select to expand quoteIANC said..
Anyone landed a V2 in Australia - looks like prices have gone up in the last couple of weeks.
Now $1749 for a 4m Kanaha.
Do you have any taxes / additional costs when clearing customs?
Yeh I have received two orders recently but before the price rise. I did pay $60 postage but no import fees or G.S.T. Price is comparable to Ozone which is probably the closest contender for best wing in my opinion. I struggled a bit with the harness line position to get it balanced as I really liked my Maliko V1 with the harness position I had but I think I've got it now and starting to really enjoy the V2 wings.
Select to expand quoteSheps said..IANC said..
Anyone landed a V2 in Australia - looks like prices have gone up in the last couple of weeks.
Now $1749 for a 4m Kanaha.
Do you have any taxes / additional costs when clearing customs?
Yeh I have received two orders recently but before the price rise. I did pay $60 postage but no import fees or G.S.T. Price is comparable to Ozone which is probably the closest contender for best wing in my opinion. I struggled a bit with the harness line position to get it balanced as I really liked my Maliko V1 with the harness position I had but I think I've got it now and starting to really enjoy the V2 wings.
Try the monoline right behind the front line. Works great. Still playing with length but super short feels really good.
Make your own using V1 BRM included harness mounts and 3/16 old leash line:
Select to expand quotefoilthegreats said..Sheps said..IANC said..
Anyone landed a V2 in Australia - looks like prices have gone up in the last couple of weeks.
Now $1749 for a 4m Kanaha.
Do you have any taxes / additional costs when clearing customs?
Yeh I have received two orders recently but before the price rise. I did pay $60 postage but no import fees or G.S.T. Price is comparable to Ozone which is probably the closest contender for best wing in my opinion. I struggled a bit with the harness line position to get it balanced as I really liked my Maliko V1 with the harness position I had but I think I've got it now and starting to really enjoy the V2 wings.
Try the monoline right behind the front line. Works great. Still playing with length but super short feels really good.
Make your own using V1 BRM included harness mounts and 3/16 old leash line:
Looks like a great set up I'll try it for sure. I acknowledge my bias towards the dual line due to my experience with the BRM V1 where I did extensive trial and error and felt I had perfect set up for my riding style but the V2 is a very different beast. Thanks for the detailed photos. I particularly like the loop you made. I have plenty of the BRM harness mounts too so I'll make one for sure. Cheers
Select to expand quoteJve said..
Tried my 5.4 Ka'a first time today in a bit too much wind - it was quite gusty, so hard to tell how much wind, but it was super easy getting up also with the 4.2 Flow D-wing, probably mean 18 knots gusting 25. What I can say so far is that it is very easy to handle and the stowing is even easier than the 4.2 D-wing; the lower aspect ratio, short lines and BRM canopy make a huge difference here. The packed canopy gets about as big as that of the D-wing, but the small bar makes the whole package even smaller. I felt powered up with the D-wing and of course overpowered with the Ka'a, but I could easily survive edging hard upwind, so the high end seems good and it didn't deform, just pulled a lot!
I'm just ~74 kg, hope this pw will make the 10-16 knots range (which we get a lot) far more enjoyable. Even though I haven't tried it in this range, I can safely say that I see no reason to avoid the BRM Ka'a in big sizes if you are heavy. Stoked and hoping for some light breeze
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Hey!!!
Looking forward to read more of your experience, as my situation is just the same as yours.
Currently in a Flow D-wing 4.2, but not so happy with its low end, and thinking about switching to BRM in two sizes to cover all the wind spectrum from 10 to 30 kt.
Im 72 kg and Spain based, lots of 10-15 kt days here with some windswell to play with.
Keep on with that reviews!!!!
Select to expand quoteheysup said..Jve said..
Tried my 5.4 Ka'a first time today in a bit too much wind - it was quite gusty, so hard to tell how much wind, but it was super easy getting up also with the 4.2 Flow D-wing, probably mean 18 knots gusting 25. What I can say so far is that it is very easy to handle and the stowing is even easier than the 4.2 D-wing; the lower aspect ratio, short lines and BRM canopy make a huge difference here. The packed canopy gets about as big as that of the D-wing, but the small bar makes the whole package even smaller. I felt powered up with the D-wing and of course overpowered with the Ka'a, but I could easily survive edging hard upwind, so the high end seems good and it didn't deform, just pulled a lot!
I'm just ~74 kg, hope this pw will make the 10-16 knots range (which we get a lot) far more enjoyable. Even though I haven't tried it in this range, I can safely say that I see no reason to avoid the BRM Ka'a in big sizes if you are heavy. Stoked and hoping for some light breeze
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Hey!!!
Looking forward to read more of your experience, as my situation is just the same as yours.
Currently in a Flow D-wing 4.2, but not so happy with its low end, and thinking about switching to BRM in two sizes to cover all the wind spectrum from 10 to 30 kt.
Im 72 kg and Spain based, lots of 10-15 kt days here with some windswell to play with.
Keep on with that reviews!!!!
I've had one more session in the low end of my 5.4 Ka'a and I'm very happy with it. Probably 10-14 knots with a dw board and pump foil. It was a lot of work pumping the board to get up, but I managed all the time, which I would definitely not have done even once with my 4.2 Flow D-wing. The Ka'a is very stable in low wind and drained water much quicker than the D-wing after getting wet, so it is a superior alternative for light wind. Went upwind well. Jibes were difficult in the light wind with a wide turning pump foil, needed precision to keep it flying, although it got better over the session. A good alternative was grabbing some front lines for a mini stow and pump around then throw it up and keep riding. The short lines, small bar and magic canopy material makes it easier to stow than the 4.2 D-wing. I would of course prefer to ride well powered on a 3.0 m parawing, but we're not blessed with good conditions all the time and I feel this parawing makes light wind parawinging a legit alternative. A suitably big foil is obviously needed for good low end performance and to match the smaller swell when light wind. Very good opportunity for practicing for the bigger days.
Select to expand quoteJve said..heysup said..Jve said..
Tried my 5.4 Ka'a first time today in a bit too much wind - it was quite gusty, so hard to tell how much wind, but it was super easy getting up also with the 4.2 Flow D-wing, probably mean 18 knots gusting 25. What I can say so far is that it is very easy to handle and the stowing is even easier than the 4.2 D-wing; the lower aspect ratio, short lines and BRM canopy make a huge difference here. The packed canopy gets about as big as that of the D-wing, but the small bar makes the whole package even smaller. I felt powered up with the D-wing and of course overpowered with the Ka'a, but I could easily survive edging hard upwind, so the high end seems good and it didn't deform, just pulled a lot!
I'm just ~74 kg, hope this pw will make the 10-16 knots range (which we get a lot) far more enjoyable. Even though I haven't tried it in this range, I can safely say that I see no reason to avoid the BRM Ka'a in big sizes if you are heavy. Stoked and hoping for some light breeze
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Hey!!!
Looking forward to read more of your experience, as my situation is just the same as yours.
Currently in a Flow D-wing 4.2, but not so happy with its low end, and thinking about switching to BRM in two sizes to cover all the wind spectrum from 10 to 30 kt.
Im 72 kg and Spain based, lots of 10-15 kt days here with some windswell to play with.
Keep on with that reviews!!!!
I've had one more session in the low end of my 5.4 Ka'a and I'm very happy with it. Probably 10-14 knots with a dw board and pump foil. It was a lot of work pumping the board to get up, but I managed all the time, which I would definitely not have done even once with my 4.2 Flow D-wing. The Ka'a is very stable in low wind and drained water much quicker than the D-wing after getting wet, so it is a superior alternative for light wind. Went upwind well. Jibes were difficult in the light wind with a wide turning pump foil, needed precision to keep it flying, although it got better over the session. A good alternative was grabbing some front lines for a mini stow and pump around then throw it up and keep riding. The short lines, small bar and magic canopy material makes it easier to stow than the 4.2 D-wing. I would of course prefer to ride well powered on a 3.0 m parawing, but we're not blessed with good conditions all the time and I feel this parawing makes light wind parawinging a legit alternative. A suitably big foil is obviously needed for good low end performance and to match the smaller swell when light wind. Very good opportunity for practicing for the bigger days.
Good to hear you had a good session on the 5.4m Ka'a. I have three myself in smaller sizes and retain two original Malikos as well. I'm reluctant to replace my Maliko 5.1m is it is a dream in light winds. I'd love it to have shorter lines but what I love about it is it has a ridiculously low stall speed. Basically it stays up in next to nothing. In gusty winds and when going upwind in a harness and I'm leaning into the harness the Maliko never falls back in the window and I can really rely on it to be able to really lean on the harness. For toeside going upwind it's just so good. When jybing there is no need to pull on the front lines. I guess the lack of low end stability is a trade off for better high end stability?Do I love the V2 Ka'a? Mostly I do, but the Maliko V1 is a dream in light winds for low end stability. If these features could be combined with the V2 we will have the elixir for endless foil dreams.
Select to expand quotefoilthegreats said..
Ka'a 3.6m first session: ?si=YXSS4HgDP7sSaE3I
What is your wind range on the ka'a 3.6?
Select to expand quotePacoo said..foilthegreats said..
Ka'a 3.6m first session: ?si=YXSS4HgDP7sSaE3I
What is your wind range on the ka'a 3.6?
I find the below range pretty accurate for me. I can get more low end if I have bumps to take off on. Top end you can hold it down but need to use a harness 100%.
I can only speak for my V1 4m. graph shows 15-18. Yes, this is ideal but I can go to 25 pretty comfortably. Not that anyone cares about v1 data anymore.
Select to expand quotefoilthegreats said..Pacoo said..foilthegreats said..
Ka'a 3.6m first session: ?si=YXSS4HgDP7sSaE3I
What is your wind range on the ka'a 3.6?
I find the below range pretty accurate for me. I can get more low end if I have bumps to take off on. Top end you can hold it down but need to use a harness 100%.
With the new bridle and attachement configurations, I wonder how much it changes the range of the V1 ?
Select to expand quotefoilthegreats said..Pacoo said..foilthegreats said..
Ka'a 3.6m first session: ?si=YXSS4HgDP7sSaE3I
What is your wind range on the ka'a 3.6?
I find the below range pretty accurate for me. I can get more low end if I have bumps to take off on. Top end you can hold it down but need to use a harness 100%.
Thanks for the input. It looks like the range above is a bit conservative and more around the sweet spot.
I think the range is conservative on both ends but really gear and skill dependent. You can ride and hold it down when super powered with a harness. A good bump for a pump up on foil makes all the difference in light conditions. It's really not only about wind but sea conditions and gear.
Started hitting the top end on all my Ka'a the other day. 2.9m started to top out around 30-35 kts. Was still manageable by slightly back stalling the Parawing and cutting upwind hard. I will be adding a 2.3m eventually too
?si=HB4oyAvwfKWVn6QT
Select to expand quotefoilthegreats said..
Started hitting the top end on all my Ka'a the other day. 2.9m started to top out around 30-35 kts. Was still manageable by slightly back stalling the Parawing and cutting upwind hard. I will be adding a 2.3m eventually too?si=HB4oyAvwfKWVn6QT
A few questions.
When you are using that down loop with the back stall is it only on the light end of the wind range or can you do it at the top end also?
When you are getting going on to foil it doesn't seem you are making much use of the legs and are relying mostly on pumping the wing. Is this intentional or due to equipment?
thanks for any help
Select to expand quotefoilthegreats said..
Started hitting the top end on all my Ka'a the other day. 2.9m started to top out around 30-35 kts. Was still manageable by slightly back stalling the Parawing and cutting upwind hard. I will be adding a 2.3m eventually too?si=HB4oyAvwfKWVn6QT
Hi
ive just got the 5.4m Ka'a.
ive not managed to get on foil yet due to poor conditions. Any advice tips to get going, bar mods. compared to Ozone it flys totally different, very deep in the window. I'm going to watch your video when I have more time, looks great.
Select to expand quoteAnyBoard said..foilthegreats said..
Started hitting the top end on all my Ka'a the other day. 2.9m started to top out around 30-35 kts. Was still manageable by slightly back stalling the Parawing and cutting upwind hard. I will be adding a 2.3m eventually too?si=HB4oyAvwfKWVn6QT
A few questions.
When you are using that down loop with the back stall is it only on the light end of the wind range or can you do it at the top end also?
When you are getting going on to foil it doesn't seem you are making much use of the legs and are relying mostly on pumping the wing. Is this intentional or due to equipment?
thanks for any help
It's actually easier when it's more windy as it will blow across faster.
I am pumping my board hard. Think it's just the camera angle making it look like I'm not. I pump everything hard to get up and go.
Select to expand quotergmacca said..foilthegreats said..
Started hitting the top end on all my Ka'a the other day. 2.9m started to top out around 30-35 kts. Was still manageable by slightly back stalling the Parawing and cutting upwind hard. I will be adding a 2.3m eventually too?si=HB4oyAvwfKWVn6QT
Hi
ive just got the 5.4m Ka'a.
ive not managed to get on foil yet due to poor conditions. Any advice tips to get going, bar mods. compared to Ozone it flys totally different, very deep in the window. I'm going to watch your video when I have more time, looks great.
If it's light using a DW board and big foil will make it a lot easier. I try and use a little chop to help me get up and go when under powered. Use both hand together at the front of the bar and slightly pump the Parawing.
2.9M Ka'a versus 3.2M Kanaha
I have been riding the Kanaha 2.5, 4, and 5.5m for a couple of weeks, and I would say the wind range above is the ideal sweet spot. For me, I would add a couple of 4 knt on the top end. It is a very stable parawing in the gusts.
