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Extraordinarily poor customer service

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Created by remery > 9 months ago, 26 Feb 2016
Dip916
WA, 117 posts
29 Feb 2016 1:25PM
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Hi Agrid,

I know of you from another 2 wheeled forum, and can vouch for others on here that you aren't a troll.

I have had vastly varying experiences in that shop. It does seem like the person in question maybe does need to manage his blood sugar levels a bit better (through to be clear I am not suggesting he is diabetic!).

I use that shop because I am perfectly happy to buy second hand equipment and when I have gone in with my wallet open, I've always come out satisfied with gear I like and a good price. Another time when I was having issues with a sail I'd bought there, he went above and beyond by replacing a part I'd broken (by rigging it incorrectly - my fault) for free, and then giving me a demo in the shop of how to rig so that I wouldn't break it again.

Equally I've wandered in there with no specific purpose other than perhaps window-shopping for something I may want rather than need, and all I got was rudeness.
I also vote with my feet. When looking to buy a SUP a year or so ago, I got him on one of his grumpy days. I just went elsewhere to buy one.

I think it is just a character trait of that individual. Everyone in life has their quirks, and his that he can have grumpy days when he really doesn't customers in his shop. That's never good for business and I don't condone it, but it is his choice to scare away sales occasionally.

whippingboy
WA, 1104 posts
29 Feb 2016 1:30PM
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The 'Soup Nazi' of windsurfing ?

"No extension for you "

azymuth
WA, 2156 posts
29 Feb 2016 2:27PM
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AUS1111 said..


...and a really really really smart operator would spell "utilise" correctly, and not rely on some stupid American spell checker.

AND, before you say "Well that's a pretty insignificant point you've raised there Chris", just remember that this entire thread, with commentators from as far afield as Queensland but not yet Ireland, concerns a conflict arising from the alleged mishandling of second-hand mast extension.

So don't bloody come at me with your "insignificant", and I know you haven't done yet but I'm just getting on the front foot.



I'm with Chris - this is important stuff, I'm interested to see how the panel reacts tonight on Q&A

AUS 808
WA, 502 posts
29 Feb 2016 2:33PM
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whippingboy said..
The 'Soup Nazi' of windsurfing ?

"No extension for you "


Mast Base!!!!!! it was a fkn Mast Base!!!!!!!!!!

Man0verBoard
WA, 629 posts
29 Feb 2016 2:59PM
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The salesman gently reached around and relieved your snatch?

whippingboy
WA, 1104 posts
29 Feb 2016 3:11PM
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This post was making me angry ..
So I went to the vending machine at work to get a Snickers ...

F&(*^ thing go stuck and was hanging there ,F(*^,&% ,&*^ *%$^$^%$@@@, *&%&^$.

Security guard came to my assistance....

I've now got 2 Snickers and feel much better

remery
WA, 3709 posts
29 Feb 2016 3:21PM
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Dip916 said..
Hi Agrid,

Equally I've wandered in there with no specific purpose other than perhaps window-shopping for something I may want rather than need, and all I got was rudeness.
I also vote with my feet. When looking to buy a SUP a year or so ago, I got him on one of his grumpy days. I just went elsewhere to buy one.

I think it is just a character trait of that individual. Everyone in life has their quirks, and his that he can have grumpy days when he really doesn't customers in his shop. That's never good for business and I don't condone it, but it is his choice to scare away sales occasionally.



Well that's an interesting thought. When I walked in and saw him busy out the back I said something along the lines of "Don't bother with me, I'm just a time waster, my wife said I'm not allowed to spend any more money, I'll have a look around while I wait for the wind to come in." I thought it was an amicable comment.

Scoob
WA, 88 posts
29 Feb 2016 3:26PM
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AUS1111 said..
..... with commentators from as far afield as Queensland but not yet Ireland, concerns a conflict arising from the alleged mishandling of a second-hand mast extension.

In the interests of transparency, I disclose that I am in fact, from Ireland. I trust the significance of this disclosure, sits comfortably with everyone.

I apologise if any forum participants have been mislead. Sorry!

petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
29 Feb 2016 4:19PM
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In the scheme of things ( current contrived wars,poverty etc ) this does seem to be a storm in a tea cup situation.

Can see this thread surpassing the free stuff thread in the number of posts.

Good for a laugh - yes.

With the person in question more or less named - this thread needs to be pulled short of a amicable resolution.


waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
29 Feb 2016 4:53PM
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AUS1111 said..

...and a really really really smart operator would spell "utilise" correctly, and not rely on some stupid American spell checker.



"utilize" : verb

make practical use of

"utilization" : noun

Ref: Collins English Dictionary

The ball's in your court, spelling nazi.

lol.

AUS1111
WA, 3621 posts
29 Feb 2016 5:01PM
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petermac33 said..

It's a conspiracy...




Mark _australia
WA, 23470 posts
29 Feb 2016 5:38PM
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this thread needs to be pulled short of a amicable resolution.




Yes and then they will say "we pulled it" ......... and that means they blew up 3 buildings, crashed 4 planes deliberately and all to tarnish the reputation of good Allah-fearing oil barons.


Gustenzo
WA, 108 posts
29 Feb 2016 6:10PM
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Who needs 'Bold and the Beautiful' I just come here and read comments

R1DER
WA, 1471 posts
29 Feb 2016 7:52PM
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peguin said...
does the actions of the salesman just add character to the business?? Its a different experience from say a high street shop. All the windsurf shops are run by 'special' people. Never been to one with high street shop sales mentality and all the better for it. Last time i visited the shop in discussion we discussed the merits of board brands based on colour schemes. Performance and suitability not mentioned. Its very true as whilst I love the way my RRD 82 surfs, it really pees me off that its black and white when same board in other sizes are oranges, reds and blues. Its that insight that makes windsurfing salesman special.


Just curious, did you miss spell your user name when you first joined up?

R1DER
WA, 1471 posts
29 Feb 2016 7:56PM
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I'm holding back on Greenies insensitive comment Mark. That boys going to push me over the edge one day.

R1DER
WA, 1471 posts
29 Feb 2016 8:06PM
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I find the owner quite funny with a great sense of qwerky humour. I can just picture him doing the sneak and gentle take. He's very funny

peguin
WA, 274 posts
29 Feb 2016 9:29PM
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peguin said...
does the actions of the salesman just add character to the business?? Its a different experience from say a high street shop. All the windsurf shops are run by 'special' people. Never been to one with high street shop sales mentality and all the better for it. Last time i visited the shop in discussion we discussed the merits of board brands based on colour schemes. Performance and suitability not mentioned. Its very true as whilst I love the way my RRD 82 surfs, it really pees me off that its black and white when same board in other sizes are oranges, reds and blues. Its that insight that makes windsurfing salesman special.


Just curious, did you miss spell your user name when you first joined up?


No it's my name. Mr Percy Edward Guin hence Peguin.

R1DER
WA, 1471 posts
1 Mar 2016 7:12AM
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Thank you Percy

Man0verBoard
WA, 629 posts
1 Mar 2016 8:10AM
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peguin said...
R1DER said...
peguin said...
does the actions of the salesman just add character to the business?? Its a different experience from say a high street shop. All the windsurf shops are run by 'special' people. Never been to one with high street shop sales mentality and all the better for it. Last time i visited the shop in discussion we discussed the merits of board brands based on colour schemes. Performance and suitability not mentioned. Its very true as whilst I love the way my RRD 82 surfs, it really pees me off that its black and white when same board in other sizes are oranges, reds and blues. Its that insight that makes windsurfing salesman special.


Just curious, did you miss spell your user name when you first joined up?


No it's my name. Mr Percy Edward Guin hence Peguin.


Say g'day to Fat Cat for us!

Mark _australia
WA, 23470 posts
1 Mar 2016 8:38PM
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R1DER said..
I can just picture him doing the sneak and gentle take.



What you do in the shop is up to you, I'd rather think about buying windsurfing gear.


remery
WA, 3709 posts
1 Mar 2016 10:01PM
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Mark _australia said..

R1DER said..
I can just picture him doing the sneak and gentle take.




What you do in the shop is up to you, I'd rather think about buying windsurfing gear.




Retail has definitely changed. My Western Australian windsurfing discussion, posted in a Western Australian windsurfing discussion forum generated enthusiastic comment. Mostly supporting the proprietor. Even though my "smarty pants" comments were presented in such a way that only experienced local shoppers might know the store I was commenting on. However, some would prefer that I posted my comments in TripAdvisor; an international business review website, seen around the world that could potentially impact on existing and new customers.

Iomega
QLD, 7 posts
2 Mar 2016 12:42AM
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This is just one incident. Maybe the proprietor had a bad day or what ever. It's bad customer service if things like that happen over and over again. But once...?

I am living in Perth for four months now and have been in two of the Perth shops so far. Everyone was very nice and friendly. Even to me with my bad english with german accent . And even the shop's kite salesman was nice to me.

Twisted
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2 Mar 2016 8:43AM
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Agrid said..

Mark _australia said..


R1DER said..
I can just picture him doing the sneak and gentle take.





What you do in the shop is up to you, I'd rather think about buying windsurfing gear.





Retail has definitely changed. My Western Australian windsurfing discussion, posted in a Western Australian windsurfing discussion forum generated enthusiastic comment. Mostly supporting the proprietor. Even though my "smarty pants" comments were presented in such a way that only experienced local shoppers might know the store I was commenting on. However, some would prefer that I posted my comments in TripAdvisor; an international business review website, seen around the world that could potentially impact on existing and new customers.


What a sad bitter threatening little Fnck you are, your pathetic threatening comment exposes the real you! and you've exposed your flawed personality publicly. Your a troll for sure! I second someones comment you should take up kiting.

Greenroom
WA, 7608 posts
2 Mar 2016 10:47AM
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I like stuff

remery
WA, 3709 posts
2 Mar 2016 12:15PM
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Threats?! I can't see any threats in my posts and none were intended. Unless you think I am threatening to post a bad review on TripAdvisor just because some people on this forum were rude to me. That wouldn't be fair on the proprietor. It was another poster seemed to think TripAdvisor would be a more appropriate place to post.

I merely outlined my experience in a small, specific, local discussion forum. Overwhelmingly others seem happy with the business, but some responses suggest that the proprietor gets short with people who come into his shop without the intention of buying something. I think that's poor customer service so I won't go back. If anything, I've done the guy a favor by triggering a groundswell of support.

AUS1111
WA, 3621 posts
2 Mar 2016 12:58PM
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I'm really on the fence with this one. Can we get a few more opinions from both sides of the debate?

azymuth
WA, 2156 posts
2 Mar 2016 1:08PM
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^^
I'm sure the media following Pell will look at this when they get back from Rome

goofy
WA, 162 posts
2 Mar 2016 1:26PM
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Hey Agrid, was this you in this other review?

www.truelocal.com.au/business/german-appliance-services/oconnor

Apologies if is not you but there does seem to some similarities.

The reviewer "Agrid" complains of bad service and vows never to use the tradie again while the other reviews for said tradie are glowing. The said tradie then replies to the bad review and disputes "Agrid's" version of events.

Moral of the story is there is always two sides to a story and in this thread there has only been one side of the story. For whatever reason the shop in question has not replied and that's their prerogative and I don't blame them either and to be honest I'd bet their story would be different. The truth in most disputes is usually somewhere in the middle.

Sparky
WA, 1122 posts
2 Mar 2016 1:45PM
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No, no, no, that would have been a different Agrid, shopping all the way over in Oconnor. Where ever that is!

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
2 Mar 2016 3:55PM
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^^
I'm sure the media following Pell will look at this when they get back from Rome



I'm sure we can get this inane thread to 4 pages



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