too true - jaeger is so sick there.
But Mr severne gives him a run for his money in the drive / manoeuvrability stakes - maybe even superior in less than 20 knots on what i would say is the driviest board you can get today (Nude Chopper 90s and 80s twin fins) - those things are sick - which is why i have one on order
have been known to bust the odd clean wave 360 or taka meself out there...on both singles and quads. I MIGHT get one or 2 per day - while Ben and Jaeger will get into double figures. Cheeeky muppets!
I am even a fan of the RRDs for drive and turn.Seen Ben Arthur absolutely dominates on those in onshore.
Fact is - a sweet board is a sweet board - regardless of how many fins it has.
if I was going to maui I would order a custom and pick it up.
Angulo are doing awesome quads at the moment and even if you get it delivered they are still cheaper than a shop production board. Speak to mark on his website.
Depends on where you sail too to which set up is best, I sal with lots of rips so ordered a thruster to help with directional stability. Good luck.
Can anyone tell me how to get in contact with Nude? Is there a web site or some contact info anywhere?
Thanks.
nudesailboards@aapt.net.au
or web www.nudeboards.com.au
James Hooper is the man.
If you have a really radical style (i.e. bottom turn, get vertical, hit the lip, come down, do it again 5x on that wave) I would reccomend a Goya Custom Quad, Fanatic Quad, JP Polakow Twinser Quad or Quatro KT Quad.
If you have a more down the line style with drawn out curves I would reccomend the JP (Kauli) Twinser Quad ridden as a twinser, the Starboard Kode or JP Single Thruster ridden with a single fin. If you have the second style mentioned but still really want a quad, the Quatro LS could be a good option. Many quads now are Twin fin convertible, so if you find a quad to 'radical' you can always ride it with two fins.
Have tried the Quatro LS75 and the KT83, the LS is a flatter rocker and gets up and going quickly but doesn't bottom turn as well as the KT. The LS suited me best so I bought one. I also demo-ed the Goya quad 78 which felt quite a lot bigger than 78 litres and very heavy in the air. The OES 80 felt great but just had a bit too much volume in the tail for me, I believe the newer models have a much narrower tail.
I didn't bother with the RRDs as they weigh a tonne and the JPs cost $600 more than the Quatro's.
There were no 2011 Starboards to demo as they were waiting for the 2012 model to arrive.
Unfortunately its as flat as a tack here in Maui at the moment so the dreaded kite is getting a workout.
i bought a quatro 85 ls and im still not sold on it sailed it twice found it very slow but maybe its just me as its the first quad ive sailed i weigh 84kg and have always used that size as my light wind board
Geeze, thats not my review of quads....
I feel they plane up much earlier than twins, the extra fins seem to give more lift, yes they provide more grip on the wave but can be pushed out hard when required (like off the top) and are better at getting you back up wind when your not on the plane. They also dont suffer from overly sliding out when its real windy like twins.
These traits out way any slight advantage that the other fin combos have. Sure singles have very slightly more top end and twinnies are great in small waves but:
Quads are the best allround fin combination IMHO.
thanks for the reply realy apreciate the feed back i think ihave to try more boards as my suplier is realy good and acomidating thuster maybe or back to single and also checked my wait im 88kg now got fat ah im 6foot5 thou getin old sux
Hey Zac tell that tight arse father of yours to get you on the next plane to Maui lots of bargains to be had here
i got to try the 2012 fanatic 85 quad in maui for a short session recently thanks to Peter Slate (legend), not much swell around and this was my first time on a quad. i tried a twin once and didnt like it at all. i thought that the 85 quad was going to be too small for me @90-95kgs. I also thought that the (2012) 5.9 duke rig would be too big for the board too. i was happily surprized on both fronts and found that in the 15-18 knots (maui wind) was relatively early to plane and although not blisteringly fast compared to the speed and slalom boards i usually ride i thought it moved along nicely. it turns like a demon and can go upwind OK, ive just got to remind myself to lay off the back foot because im used to having long upright slalom fins to oppose my lead back foot, so yeah if you want to tail slide its there for you on demand. under 15 knots and the combo suffered somewhat. its a shame there wasnt more wind becuase i had a brand new 5.0 duke sitting there waiting for me to try it too but adamson swallowed up all the good wind before i got there... serves him right and his punishment was a broken nose (not from me). all in all big ups to Slater for the loan of gear. I can thoroughly recommend the quad (from my limited experience) in powered up DTL conditions the quad would be a worthy weapon! Also the duke is the right sail for the bigger guys on the waves in the north range. tried the new north ultralight ID sail (5.4ish from memory) but not the right sail for me.
75's, 85's and 90'shttp://www.boardseekermag.com/windsurfing-equipment-tests/75-litre-wave-board-intro-2010-155.html
www.boardseekermag.com/windsurfing-equipment-tests/85-litre-multi-fin-overview-2011-149.html
www.boardseekermag.com/windsurfing-equipment-tests/2011/90-litre-multi-fin-overview.html
I didn't want to start a debate about quads vs thrusters but I appreciate all the discussion. I've been riding a Delta Euphoria custom thruster for about 4 years now and I love it as my light wind board. It took me a while to get the fin configuration sorted as it felt over finned in trifin (3 equal sized fins) mode. When I put in a couple of smaller thruster fins coupled with a 14cm centre fin it sped up the board and made it tighter turning. Also as witchcraft pointed out mast base position is critical as well as it is with the quads. I have used it in single fin mode but its a bit of a handful bottom turning without spinning out.
I haven't ridden my quad enough and back to back with the thruster to make a detailed comparison but needless to say both boards are great.
I got out on the new Quad 72 today. I dialed in the fins for a perfect fit and went straight to Ho'okipa. Conditions were 5.0 mostly not planing, and a little bit overhead waves.
As soon as I got up on the board I noticed some differences. The reduced volume in the tail was significant, but she still floated all of 72L. I just have to keep my weight a little more forward. The overall length feels shorter, and the nose definitely seems fuller.
The fins feel perfectly matched to the board. They offer unbelievable grip and control. Sliding maneuvers off the top are done with ease, and much more critical than my last board. The thinness of the tail feels amazing in the bottom turn, allowing for the last second pivot that I was looking for. I was able to go vertical much more easily than the previous board, and the cutback was on a dime. I could turn sharper off the top than I ever have before. I was able to carve hard on rail with no worry of sliding out, and also turn flatter to push the tail around for the ultra controlled sliding cutback. I was having fun with layback cutbacks and the board sliding in front of the wave. I felt that I could reconnect the fins at any point that I wanted.
The last two days I have been riding a Quatro 76 Keith model production board. Conditions were very similar, so I could compare the boards fairly well. The Quatro was nice and felt right at home in the waves. It performed well and did pretty much everything I asked it to. The board seemed pretty short, and on numerous occasions I pearled the nose. It probably happened 5 times, and it became obvious that I would have to adjust my style to get the most out of the board. Moving the mast back may have helped, but I didn't try.
Overall it was a very good board and I would enjoy riding it, but after I got on the new OES, there was no question. I was a little concerned that the nose might bury, but it actually was never an issue. There was one time when I re-entered the wave from the top and plunged the nose straight into the water. I watched and expected to get launched over the handlebars, but the water split and the nose redirected and surfaced almost immediately. I couldn't believe it.
What else can I say? This board is going to take my wave riding to new heights. I have never felt such control under my feet. Well done Pete!
Russ
Pete
agree with Russ s comments above re 2012 quads-
they rip; definately super vert top to bottom and hard cranking off the top.
Rode 88 tuesday - board is a ripper, big step forward, your best to date.
Looking forward to giving 95 west coast big wave gun a run- set it up last nite.
will be interesting to test slight rocker enhancements, keep pushing the envelope; definately looks the goods. taking fat wavesailors where they've never been before!
Whats going on ??- are u taking our aussie beer gut designs to maui or bringing their ideas back here? credit where its due to skinny hawaiians; those fotos of Nick charging at Jaws do inspire confidence
maris
What I really wanna know is how people here are discussing the merits or various fin setups, and when the bloke who has done as much, if not more, testing than ANYONE of multi fin setups - Witchcraft - posts a reply he gets red thumbs. Thye had thrusters and trifins etc in water tunnel wind tunnel doo-hickey things years ago.
Especially poor form when Lee asked about trifin FSW and Wichcraft have been doing them and replied.
Weird ppl here at times ...... ![]()
I appreciate a sport and a forum where the substantial manufacturers get in and reply with technical details so thankyou OES and Witchcraft. Evened it up a bit for u