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Created by Gestalt > 9 months ago, 11 Aug 2010
Gestalt
QLD, 14632 posts
11 Aug 2010 9:32AM
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kult and kaos sneak peek has been uploaded to the KA site.

www.kasail.com/windsurfing/news/2011_kult_kaos.html

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ejmack
VIC, 1308 posts
11 Aug 2010 10:13AM
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Very nice!

Gestalt
QLD, 14632 posts
11 Aug 2010 6:05PM
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agree they look superb!

nice work mr love.

birdseyeview
WA, 150 posts
12 Aug 2010 6:10AM
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Great looking sails, huge improvement. Is Mr Love responsible for this? if so, well done!

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
12 Aug 2010 2:40PM
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Interested to see a photo of an x-ply Koncept

[C'mon on Martin - use your powers of persuation and convince Andrew to make one)

mr love
VIC, 2405 posts
12 Aug 2010 5:12PM
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Me influence Andrew, I'd like to see that

Standard X ply will be a touch heavier, spongier and more expensive. So Andrew's response is generally, Why would we??????

I would like to do a sample in a high tech scrim like ODL04. We might do so we can see what the weight save is. Way, way more expensive though so it would need to be a significant difference to justify it.



TASSIEROCKS
TAS, 1652 posts
14 Aug 2010 9:29PM
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KA just get better and better every year. I just love the fact that an Australian brand is still going strong. Well done KA, If you have never tried one? give one a go
they look good and sail better.

Russ

mr love
VIC, 2405 posts
15 Aug 2010 6:37PM
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I used the Kult 5.8 PP sample yesterday in pretty average super gusty conditions varying from 15-25 knots. I was very impressed, great low end power yet remained stable and manageble when pretty overpowered.

Here,s a photo on Jodi's Whitecaps Photography site.

www.whitecapsphotography.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=94943626

ITSON
SA, 227 posts
16 Aug 2010 8:32AM
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looks like some great sails

Bogan speed team
SA, 407 posts
17 Aug 2010 9:05AM
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I agree - they look and perform better and better every year.

Can't wait to get them.

mr love
VIC, 2405 posts
17 Aug 2010 11:56AM
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Thanks for the comments Guy,s. Actually I am not a huge fan of the black and white, the Boss love's it though. I prefer something a bit louder.
Especially on Koncept we try to keep the sail as simple and clean as possible, it is after all a high performance race sail not a fashion statement so we try to avoid additional unneccessary seams just for the sake of the graphic. I do try to keep it looking sharp though within the scope of the design brief.

Aesthetic design is so subjective, some will love what you do others will hate it, so it is nice to hear some possitive reviews. Thanks

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
17 Aug 2010 12:19PM
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mr love said...
...........Especially on Koncept we try to keep the sail as simple and clean as possible..............



K.I.S.S. - The principle tenet of good design. That and "Less is More"

PS - Martin, any specs available on the 2011 Koncepts yet?

Gestalt
QLD, 14632 posts
17 Aug 2010 12:34PM
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that's what i love about KA sails. they're simple and functional.

i cannot wait to get my new kult and kaos sails. for me it's like xmas in september.

mr love
VIC, 2405 posts
17 Aug 2010 1:57PM
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Sausage, We will have something on the website late this week, early next. Luff lengths the same, boom lengths 3cm or so longer. Sizing has gone back to 09 sizes, so 4.4,5.0,5.8,6.6,7.5,8.5,9.5, head has stayed narrow like 2010 for low drag and some area is added to the lower 1/2.

Haggar
QLD, 1670 posts
17 Aug 2010 3:45PM
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Martin, I quite like those sail sizes, does this mean other manufacturers are going back to those sizes because of upcoming PWA changes etc., or is it something that KA has just decided to do

mr love
VIC, 2405 posts
17 Aug 2010 5:09PM
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Haggar, For 2010 we removed some area in the head (made it narrower) to reduce drag and reduced the boom lengths by increasing the clew cutaway. This took the overall sail area down a bit from 2009, for example the 6.6 dropped to 6.4. The sails definitely got slipperier as a result but the comments coming back from the Team, especially the speed guy's, myself included, was that the back hand feedback had maybe got a touch too light. We were finding that with this really light back hand it could sometimes be easy to oversheet when running really broad on a speed run and stall the sail a bit.
Jesper also felt that in the larger sizes sailing in really light conditions a bit more tug from the back hand would make it easier to drive off the fin.
What we have done is lengthen the boom just a tad to generate a wee bit more pull from the back hand. As a result some area was added up the leech fading out about half way and the overall sail areas came back up to what they were in 2009.

TASSIEROCKS
TAS, 1652 posts
17 Aug 2010 8:28PM
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2011 KA Koncept "To Infinity and beyond"!!!!

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
17 Aug 2010 9:03PM
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TASSIEROCKS said...

2011 KA Koncept "To Infinity and beyond"!!!!



I think that's Ezzy

Walt
264 posts
17 Aug 2010 7:36PM
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hI,

I am running the 2009 Koyote6.6 and for my sailing style it works very well.

The new Koyote looks a bit sharper which I assume will result in a more positive fell for the rider.

I will definately be ordering a 5.5 if that will be one of the new sizes to add to the 2009.

Regards
Walt

mr love
VIC, 2405 posts
18 Aug 2010 8:09AM
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Hi Walt, Koyote is a gem and I will have a couple in my quiver this season for seabreeze cruising on the Bay. Sizes are unchanged so your smaller options are 5.9 or 5.3. They can handle more wind than a wave sail in the equivalent size, the 5.3 can cope with seriously strong winds, so bear that in mind when deciding how small you want to go.

Bogan speed team
SA, 407 posts
18 Aug 2010 9:06PM
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Hi Mr Love,

I like the fact they have gone back to 6.6 and 5.8. Replacing a couple of 09's so great to replace with the same size. If anything like my 2010 7.3 i am hanging to get them.

Cheers,

Carl

K-100
106 posts
19 Aug 2010 11:34PM
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Love the Black and White Koncepts

Alastair
IRL-250

Walt
264 posts
20 Aug 2010 6:04PM
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Hey Mr Love, thanks for your reply

Looks like I will settle for the 5.3 then.

The next question is when will they be avaliable?

Noticed that the water temp is 22 degrees by the 6pm news report this may bring on the NE soon.

Regards
Walt

mr love
VIC, 2405 posts
21 Aug 2010 1:08PM
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Hi Walt , I sent you a PM re a 5.3 Koyote. Regards Martin

Walt
264 posts
23 Aug 2010 3:58PM
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Hi Martin,

Thanks got the your message.
I will consider the option.

Kind Regards
Walt

Spotty
VIC, 1619 posts
27 Aug 2010 1:51PM
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Ka 2011 pdf brochure with overview and spec's of the 2011 range now up @.......

http://www.kasail.com/windsurfing/sails/2011%20Sails/2011_sail_overview.html

choco
SA, 4175 posts
27 Aug 2010 2:03PM
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Spotty said...

Ka 2011 pdf brochure with overview and spec's of the 2011 range now up @.......

http://www.kasail.com/windsurfing/sails/2011%20Sails/2011_sail_overview.html




Wow! see they are offering a 4m in the Koncepts, who would use something that small? apart from old geriatrics

easty
TAS, 2213 posts
27 Aug 2010 6:19PM
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Spotty said...

Ka 2011 pdf brochure with overview and spec's of the 2011 range now up @.......
http://www.kasail.com/windsurfing/sails/2011%20Sails/2011_sail_overview.html


and they look great!!.
My dilemma is whether to replace my ageing 5.8 (KA Karve, 2002?) with a new 5.8 Kult. I have budgeted this year to either replace the 5.8, or make the move to a rdm mast. Would the Kult rig ok on my oldish North Sting drop shape 30% sdm? - my 6.4 Kult from a couple of years ago rigs ok on it (apart from a bit tight in the mast sleeve).
Also, it's mentioned that "heavier riders" would enjoy the new Kults - I'm not heavy so would I find it too powerful?
Decisions decisions

mr love
VIC, 2405 posts
27 Aug 2010 8:03PM
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Hi Easty, Without measuringyour mast I would only be speculating on it's suitability for a 2011 Kult. I checked out the peterman.dk site and he had 2 North stings measured. One was 14.2 % bend curve and the other 16% bend curve. If it is 14.2 it is OK but 16% is sretching the friendship.
It might be worth you going to the trouble of measuring it, pretty easy. If you PM me I can explain how to do it.

Now the Kult is fairly powerful but not what I would call a big guy only sail. It has a fair bit of seam shaping down low and a bit more luff curve than a Wave sail. This means it is pretty tunable, you can set it up really grunty but it does respond really well to a lot of downhaul so you can depower it really well. It also has pretty good draft stability so you can sail it overpowered.
Where it differs from a real Wave sail ( like Kaos) is that due to the preshape and luff curve it holds power through the transitions and never goes completely neutral.
It is designed as Bump and Jump all rounder ,not a Wave sail, but some big guy,s like it for Wave sailing as it has lot,s of grunt on tap and they are storng enough to throw it around easily.
I love it for Bay blasting which is exactly what it is made for.

easty
TAS, 2213 posts
27 Aug 2010 8:56PM
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Thanks for that - I remembered there was a thread on measuring mast bend a while ago, so used the search thingo and hey presto, found it. (thanks Not Wal)
Will do some measuring tomorrow, unless it's windy.

TASSIEROCKS
TAS, 1652 posts
10 Sep 2010 8:22PM
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Easty,

hope you enjoy the new KA 5.7m kaos

Cheers Russ



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