Thommen 1 GPS Speed Team Challenge

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sneeky all in yellow. Just the big sand dunes thanks

So in other words,

To compete in Hardie's Speed Challenge (until he decides to announce who the REAL sponsor is), you MUST set your GPS to 2 seconds between data points?

Is this right?

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Originally posted by nebbian

So in other words,

To compete in Hardie's Speed Challenge (until he decides to announce who the REAL sponsor is), you MUST set your GPS to 2 seconds between data points?

Is this right?

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For being a smarty pants, you have been banned from competing Yes I think you got it, but just don't ask me how this is done.

Does anybody know how this is done??

I bought a NAVI GT11 from Roo and he said he set it up for me, what the hell does that mean? Did he set it to 2 secs, I suppose I should ask him??

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Originally posted by vando

hi nebs what gps do you have.

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None yet... but this might be remedied very very soon

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Originally posted by vando

hardie i should have said if you got it off roo its already been setup ta vando

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O... oh!! I was mucking around with it, and this red light kept flashing........ and something on the screen said "Back to default settings?" WTF does that mean

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Originally posted by fitz66

A note for poor relative, cut your lines down to 2 metres and you can sneak along with the speed freaks

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Or he could become a part time windsurfer, we'd have great fun giving him lessons.

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Originally posted by Roo

Hardie you are a very naughty boy, I told you not to touch that button. Once the red light stops flashing stick your head between your legs and kiss your bum goodbye! The unit is set up for 1 second intervals on the data saved to the on board flash memory. For the data saved to the SD card it is set at 1 sec intervals also. Pay no attention to the 2 second settings from GPSSS, they are for the Garmin units which don't have the same level of accuracy as the GT-11 and produce too many spikes on the 1 second setting. I think you need to set your own rules, the GT-11 isn't approved for use at GPSSS, talk to Slowboat he is up to speed on the units and knows how they work. Let me know if you need a guide so sailors can make sure their units are set correctly.

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Yes please Roo, there's a lot of novices here!!

Updated Rules:

Conditions of Entry:

I think I will need everyone to sign a document saying they understand the risks of windurfing and will not make any claims for damages against the organisers. This will be posted soon.

Rules:

No limit to number of members per team.
No limit to teams per state.
The competition is teams vs teams based.
To qualify for a team session, at least two team members must have sailed that day and recorded results. Individual results alone, will not be counted towards a team session. Using only the best team nmembers to post a result is not in the spirit of the challenge.
Sessions will be defined as windsurfing sessions by team members on the same date, location can be diferent for different team members.

There will be 5 measurement categories.
2 sec peak;
5 x 10sec average;
1 hour;
Alpha Racing 500m;
Nautical Mile.

NB. If the data base allows there will also be an "Overall" category

Teams that don't supply a session score/time/result for a category in any month will be awarded the maximum points.

Measurement Definitions:

Each session to be recorded, will be the average score of the team for each category.
Average being the sum total of all the speeds recorded by individual team members in a days session and then divided by number of team members participating on that day.

Measurement Method:

Speeds recorded must be from using a recognised GPS and recognised software, as described by GPSSS site, NB The Rules Committee may define it's own rules for the purposes of this challenge.

Special Note:

Technical Advisers: Roo (NAVi GPS) Sailquik (General) and Slowboat (General).

For those that don't know Roo, has done development work on the NAVi gps system. Slowboat is one of Australia's top GPSSS sailors and has extensive experience with multiple GPS systems. Sailquik is very experienced GPS sailor be in top ten of GPSSS for years.

In my opinion for the purposes of this competition the following GPS's are vaild, this list can be added to if approved by people who are tachnically knowledgeable in this area:

NAVi GT-11 (uses 1 sec recording intervals which is approved for this Challenge)
Garmin Foretrex Series
Garmin Gecko Series
Garmin Edge (1 second setting)
Garmin Legend Cx (1 second setting),




Sessions for the teams will be submitted by the team captain.
The Team Captain will collate team sessions and select the best team session for each month.
Session results will be supplied/recorded monthly.
These sessions will be collated each month , and a score awarded in each category from lowest to highest.
eg. if there are 16 teams in a given category that have submitted a time these will be awarded points according to rank ordering. from a 1 for best time/speed, to 16 for worst. This is done in each category, with the team having the lowest points for the month, being the leading team for the month.

NB> Due to the technical wizardry by ZENSOFT, it may now be possible to upload data on a daily basis, and the data base will automatically update itself, in a rank ordered fashion.

Scoring/Results:

Results will be posted on the internet website each month (See NB> above). (A month is enough of a period to give hopefully suitable condions for all, and one session per category per month is a way of avoiding data overload).
Winning team/s each month can have bragging rights for that month.
Verification of results, needs to be possible, therefore each team members session results needs to be available for scrutiny. (This may be requested at random, or all results need to be forwarded to event organiser at end of the month)
Monthly scores are summed (added) for the number of months the competition runs.
The team that has the lowest score in each category over the period of the challenge is proclaimed the winner and awarded the trophy.

An overall category (And Challenge Winner) is the team that has the lowest score across all 5 categories over the 8 months, and will be GPS Speed Team Challenge Winner/Champion.

Duration of competition:

First results for the month of May must be submitted by 7th of June 2007 (Note NB> above), as all team speeds need to be recorded within 7 days of the end of each month.

The competition runs till 31/12/07.

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Originally posted by Roo

Working on the gps guide as we speak bossman Hardie, will be ready by the end of the weekend sir!

If any sailors wish to visit the Gorge this summer/your winter and be part of Roo's Gorge Cowboys let me know. I'm sure I can find a tent to put you up in and some speed gear to scare you silly on. May even sneek in a trip to the mythical ARooBar! Would be happy to provide a trophy for the fastest individual software speed recorded on a NAVi GT-11.

Roo, squadron leader Gorge Cowboys.

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Thankyou Muchly El Capitano of Cowboys!!!!!

Yes I accept the offer of a Trophy for fastest individual software speed recorded on a Navi GT-11

G'day Mineral,

they are pretty straightforward to set up. Just putting together a guide for you that I will post this weekend, will have all the details you need.

Roo

Update:

Website, Currently under construction by Ben at ZENSOFT, graphics are finished, database being finalised at moment. Ben advised me, would be ready to go online early this coming week.

Data Recording Due to Ben from ZENSOFT's computer wizardry, he has developed it, so that if desired, teams can record their speeds, on a session by session basis, and the computer data base will do all the ranking for us!!!!!! So their will be a ranking order running from day to day, so multiple ways to get bragging rights!!

Rules As per previous post. Will give the challenge the option to review rules after June 30, to see whether any glaring problems exist.

Sponsorship The front runner has promised me an answer by monday. If falls through may try a multiple sponsorship deal. As only one offer has been good enough for naming rights and exclusive sponsorship.

Registration I have nearly finished the formal registration form, had to get legal advice. It's free!!!!! But you have to sign saying you won't sue me or the sponsors in the event of injury. Nominated Teams (And new teams) can now register till the 31st of May 2007. Folowing this date no further teams will be accepted. Individual's who want to join the challenge after this date will have to join an existing team. Competition starts 1st of May 2007, and formal registration is not required. However, formal points, and eligibility for prizes will not count until a signed registration form is received by me.

Team Kit Ideas has been expressed and offers made regarding team Kit, as in monogrammed tops eg "Mandurah Mob" can be subtle or loud are people interested, we could get very tribal here? Opinions on this, I certainly wouldn't make it mandatory!! Let's say it's optional.

Quote: " I think you need to set your own rules, the GT-11 isn't approved for use at GPSSS,...."

The GT-11 IS approved for use on GPS-SS on trial and results from it are being accepted on that basis. Setting is the 1 second setting for this GPS.

A couple of other GPS models that come to mind that should be allowed are the Garmin Edge (1 second setting) and the Garmin Legend Cx (1 second setting), both of which are more accurate than the Foretrex (but perhaps not quite so user friendly) and may be owned by some people .

The Navi GT-11 is the better choice for those who who don't yet have a GPS.

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Originally posted by sailquik

Quote: " I think you need to set your own rules, the GT-11 isn't approved for use at GPSSS,...."

The GT-11 IS approved for use on GPS-SS on trial and results from it are being accepted on that basis. Setting is the 1 second setting for this GPS.

A couple of other GPS models that come to mind that should be allowed are the Garmin Edge (1 second setting) and the Garmin Legend Cx (1 second setting), both of which are more accurate than the Foretrex (but perhaps not quite so user friendly) and may be owned by some people .

The Navi GT-11 is the better choice for those who who don't yet have a GPS.

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Have amended rules accordingly, thanx for the advice!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by hardie

Sailquik has volunteered to be a technical adviser, so Thankyou..... His expertise will be much welcomed and valued!!!!!!!

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does this mean he wont be allowed to enter.

Re: Website

Have been informed by Ben @ ZENSOFT (gotta give our software/data base sponsor a plug), that the website will not be fully operational until end of May, when we need it, so be patient my little *****cats!!!!!

??? Apparently any reference to a feline creature is illegal on this site ???