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ouch, hope it mended okay. Can I ask what year you did that? 
Best comeback ever .!!
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jksmurf, ouch! are you just out of the cast? Best advice I can give for rehab is to exercise injured leg separately from good leg, so on a leg extension machine only use left leg, otherwise if you use both legs together you will slowly compensate with the right leg weakening left leg, that is what I did.
Nah I only did it two weeks ago, still have 4 weeks to go in the cast, the rehab. I'm filthy at myself for doing it, but will do whatever I can do get back on board (literally) as soon as it is prudent. Thanks for the tip on rehabbing the leg, it's a good one that just makes sense. I've been doing lots of upper body stuff while the legs heals (and to promote blood flow for healing). Fortunately no's screws so it's reasonable stable.
k.
5 of my lightweight buds use NP Small.
One 185 lbs. bud, after one season on L, is switching to S.
L must be in the 1500 range, good for 200 lbs riders in 15 mph with 4.5.
M should be around 1250.
S maybe 1050, about right for me at 75 kg.
Since I use Naish, I spend time split between my 600 and 1150.
Select to expand quotejksmurf said..Sandman1221 said..
jksmurf, ouch! are you just out of the cast? Best advice I can give for rehab is to exercise injured leg separately from good leg, so on a leg extension machine only use left leg, otherwise if you use both legs together you will slowly compensate with the right leg weakening left leg, that is what I did.
Nah I only did it two weeks ago, still have 4 weeks to go in the cast, the rehab. I'm filthy at myself for doing it, but will do whatever I can do get back on board (literally) as soon as it is prudent. Thanks for the tip on rehabbing the leg, it's a good one that just makes sense. I've been doing lots of upper body stuff while the legs heals (and to promote blood flow for healing). Fortunately no's screws so it's reasonable stable.
k.
the other tip is to eat twice as much, or close to, as you normally eat. The extra protein, carbs, and fats speeds up the healing process. And Avoid alcohol completely.
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the other tip is to eat twice as much, or close to, as you normally eat. The extra protein, carbs, and fats speeds up the healing process. And Avoid alcohol completely.
hmmm .not sure . I'm actually a wee bit worried about becoming a total porker because of sitting around more often than normal, can't go for a run, can't windsurf, wing or windfoil ??????.
Select to expand quotejksmurf said..
the other tip is to eat twice as much, or close to, as you normally eat. The extra protein, carbs, and fats speeds up the healing process. And Avoid alcohol completely.
hmmm .not sure . I'm actually a wee bit worried about becoming a total porker because of sitting around more often than normal, can't go for a run, can't windsurf, wing or windfoil ??????.
If you do not get the extra protein and carbs you will not heal as fast, your choice, you should also be getting up and going for long walks 3-4 times a day on the crutches, that will keep you in shape and help to heal too.
jksmurf - hope you get back into it soon. It's something I always worry about and feel fortunate to not have had yet.
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jksmurf - hope you get back into it soon. It's something I always worry about and feel fortunate to not have had yet.
Cheers Haircut, 3 week (1/2 time) Doc visit today, XRay shows mending OK, cast off in 3 weeks, then physio.
Exercising all the bits I can move without pain :-). All good, cheers
k.
Select to expand quotesegler said..
Getting old sucks.
Ya, but it's better than the alternative .
So it looks like three things help keep my forearm from getting sore, or help it recover quickly: L-Lysine 100 mg on an empty stomach before and after a session, creatine 5 gr before and after a session, and if my arm is sore when I go to bed then put it in a sling, and wake up fine. But without the sling, can wake during night and in morning with a sore forearm. And either acetaminophen or naproxen if really sore after a session.
Jksmurf, sorry I'm late...Heal!
Lucky you didn't need pins. I've got a 2 break fib fracture that needed 3 pins, and a 6 pin fracture 5 years later.
Gravity can cause pulsing pain well after dumping the cast, so elevation is your friend.
Wiggle those toes!
Accidents DO happen.
Actually, I now think the key to solving my sore right forearm is wearing a sling when I go to bed every night! When I do that three nights in a row I wake up and arm is perfect, but one night without sling and will wake up in the middle of the night and notice arm is sore, and then when I wake up in the morning it will be sore and then for rest of the day too. Maybe I am practicing my gybes in my sleep!
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Jksmurf, sorry I'm late...Heal!
Lucky you didn't need pins. I've got a 2 break fib fracture that needed 3 pins, and a 6 pin fracture 5 years later.
Gravity can cause pulsing pain well after dumping the cast, so elevation is your friend.
Wiggle those toes!
Accidents DO happen.
Cheers LeeD,
Yup lots of toe wiggling going on and 100% on the pulsing pain (before dumping the cast, < 2 weeks to go, yeehah...).
Accidents ... yup they do and I feel for you sboardcrazy ... frustrating, but you just got to work through it! Best of luck!
k.
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My windsurfing addiction..
Where do the boards, sails, and masts go?
Select to expand quoteSandman1221 said..sboardcrazy said..
My windsurfing addiction..
Where do the boards, sails, and masts go?
yes. it definitely needs a better fitout..sorry no caps. typing one handed..
thanks jksmurf.
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Hi,
I am not sure if there is another "damages to body parts" thread that would be more appropriate but certainly my habit (and not a bad one) of sail flipping on a small windsurf board made me hurt on this occasion. When the wind is low, I tend to force flip the sail by pulling the mast across, it has stood the test of time for me.
Long term windsurfer, went to Wing Foiling for swell riding and light rigs, then just for kicks I started using a bigger Wing Board with a mast base insert and a longer Windfoil fuse to start having a lot of fun in the swell (Strapless, with booties) with a Windsurf rig and loved it for the 4 or 5 sessions I tried. Was quite a natural feeling.
Then got clever and thought "I can gybe this thing", tried to go around, flipped the sail, the darn board reared up, the sail jammed my left ankle on the board, my momentum twisted my body around the leg and hey presto, fractured ankle two places. I was stupid enough to think to use the adrenalin to stand on one leg and a ginger toe to wobble back to the beach, fell in a few times.
I used a JP 125L SUP Foil and NP HP Glide (Red) Large Foil, WWF style I guess, big foil, small sail. I wouldn't mind tips on avoiding it happening again. Not recommended.
Cheers
k.
doesn't sound like fun..i'm good enough bashing myself around windsurfing.. bugger trying to foil..
Bloody hell guys ,
And I gave up motorbikes and went back to windsurfing because it's supposedly safer .
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Bloody hell guys ,
And I gave up motorbikes and went back to windsurfing because it's supposedly safer .
I survivedmy motorcycling years without an injury. Water is softer so sailboarding is safer..huh! 
It's OK if you don't hit the equipment on the way off.
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Bloody hell guys ,
And I gave up motorbikes and went back to windsurfing because it's supposedly safer .
I survivedmy motorcycling years without an injury. Water is softer so sailboarding is safer..huh! It's OK if you don't hit the equipment on the way off.
Same here, nothing major with windsurfing and foiling fortunately, foiling is slower so that helps though you are falling from 1-3 feet if you do crash so still have to be careful.
Select to expand quotesegler said..
Getting old sucks.
Sort of. The other option? Die young?
Problem with the aging process is also the accumulation of dings and dents that start limiting what you can do. Someone noted to me that old is the point in time where the line of things you enjoy doing crosses the line of things you cannot do. Aging and damage limitations has more or less resetting the things that I enjoy doing. One way of sort of pushing those line further apart for a bit more time. For windsurfing. Given up on even attempting to clean a single forward. I really don't jump anymore. Jump as defined in hang time that counts. Basically I'm just "mowing the lawn" and sort of enjoying it. Especially on the foil.
My worst habit has been not stopping when fatigue can result in a bad situation.
At 73, I'm sorta the opposite. I come in after 1.5 hours to do a self check, while my buds all stay out there.
I'm 1st in when conditions change for the worse, when others stay out and need to swim home.
And I always pace myself, starting slow and slowly working up to speed.
taking acetaminophen or ibuprofen before a session if I know my arm is going to get sore works good, but if I am sore the next day, instead of taking pain killers again, take 5 gr creatine and an hour later feel fine, no pain. Some people respond better to creatine than others.
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taking acetaminophen or ibuprofen before a session if I know my arm is going to get sore works good, but if I am sore the next day, instead of taking pain killers again, take 5 gr creatine and an hour later feel fine, no pain. Some people respond better to creatine than others.
The main reoccurring pain I have been getting is a sore right forearm, and after the session yesterday it was so sore the acetaminophen did not help enough, so put a freezer pack on it for 1/2 an hour, pain was completely gone! Was sore the next morning, did the same ice pack treatment, pain gone again. That is now my go to treatment for this issue.
What is interesting, is Andy Brandt told me my forearm was getting sore because I was using my front am too much to hold boom when foiling. He wanted me to move harness lines forward to increase upwind angle and so they effectively became my front arm support-wise, takes some getting used to. Had a good session yesterday with the lines forward, but forearm was sore going into session so took some ibuprofen, afterwards felt just a little soreness in right forearm/elbow so iced it for 20 min. and then felt fine, and today my forearm/elbow is not sore at all even after using a screwdriver! Normally a screwdriver will set it off.
Select to expand quoteSandman1221 said..
What is interesting, is Andy Brandt told me my forearm was getting sore because I was using my front am too much to hold boom when foiling. He wanted me to move harness lines forward to increase upwind angle and so they effectively became my front arm support-wise, takes some getting used to. Had a good session yesterday with the lines forward, but forearm was sore going into session so took some ibuprofen, afterwards felt just a little soreness in right forearm/elbow so iced it for 20 min. and then felt fine, and today my forearm/elbow is not sore at all even after using a screwdriver! Normally a screwdriver will set it off.
Can you shlogg hands-off the sail and in harness? I've been able to get my lines more balanced recently. Also, been able to commit more into the harness on the fin or foil. I used to cramp up my forearms all the time after a session, and I think it was because they were unbalanced and I wasn't fully weighting the harness.
Now it's mostly soreness if I have a very pump heavy session.
Select to expand quoteaeroegnr said..Sandman1221 said..
What is interesting, is Andy Brandt told me my forearm was getting sore because I was using my front am too much to hold boom when foiling. He wanted me to move harness lines forward to increase upwind angle and so they effectively became my front arm support-wise, takes some getting used to. Had a good session yesterday with the lines forward, but forearm was sore going into session so took some ibuprofen, afterwards felt just a little soreness in right forearm/elbow so iced it for 20 min. and then felt fine, and today my forearm/elbow is not sore at all even after using a screwdriver! Normally a screwdriver will set it off.
Can you shlogg hands-off the sail and in harness? I've been able to get my lines more balanced recently. Also, been able to commit more into the harness on the fin or foil. I used to cramp up my forearms all the time after a session, and I think it was because they were unbalanced and I wasn't fully weighting the harness.
Now it's mostly soreness if I have a very pump heavy session.
With the short forward lines I now unhook before coming down, and shlogg unhooked. Andy also got me using smaller sails, so was on a 5.8 yesterday in 8-11 with 10-11 knot gusts, normally would of been on 8.0 or 7.2. So shlogging with 5.8 takes less effort than 8.0, but need couple of pumps of 5.8 sail to get up every time, though that did not make my left arm sore, or make my right arm more sore than it was going into session.
With the 8.0 or 7.2 I would pump the foil, not the sail, to get up and thought that was good because my arm was already sore, and thought pumping sail would make it more sore, but as noted above holding boom with front arm was what was making arm sore.
Once up, hooked in and leaned out, using rear hand to sheet in as needed to maintain upwind angle and speed.
Select to expand quoteSandman1221 said..aeroegnr said..Sandman1221 said..
What is interesting, is Andy Brandt told me my forearm was getting sore because I was using my front am too much to hold boom when foiling. He wanted me to move harness lines forward to increase upwind angle and so they effectively became my front arm support-wise, takes some getting used to. Had a good session yesterday with the lines forward, but forearm was sore going into session so took some ibuprofen, afterwards felt just a little soreness in right forearm/elbow so iced it for 20 min. and then felt fine, and today my forearm/elbow is not sore at all even after using a screwdriver! Normally a screwdriver will set it off.
Can you shlogg hands-off the sail and in harness? I've been able to get my lines more balanced recently. Also, been able to commit more into the harness on the fin or foil. I used to cramp up my forearms all the time after a session, and I think it was because they were unbalanced and I wasn't fully weighting the harness.
Now it's mostly soreness if I have a very pump heavy session.
With the short forward lines I now unhook before coming down, and shlogg unhooked. Andy also got me using smaller sails, so was on a 5.8 yesterday in 8-11 with 10-11 knot gusts, normally would of been on 8.0 or 7.2. So shlogging with 5.8 takes less effort than 8.0, but need couple of pumps of 5.8 sail to get up every time, though that did not make my left arm sore, or make my right arm more sore than it was going into session.
With the 8.0 or 7.2 I would pump the foil, not the sail, to get up and thought that was good because my arm was already sore, and thought pumping sail would make it more sore, but as noted above holding boom with front arm was what was making arm sore.
Once up, hooked in and leaned out, using rear hand to sheet in as needed to maintain upwind angle and speed.
I mean are the harness lines balanced? I have been getting mine so that I can just hook in and sail a bit hands-off.
If I don't do that it makes sailing and foiling much much more strenuous.
Select to expand quoteaeroegnr said..Sandman1221 said..aeroegnr said..Sandman1221 said..
What is interesting, is Andy Brandt told me my forearm was getting sore because I was using my front am too much to hold boom when foiling. He wanted me to move harness lines forward to increase upwind angle and so they effectively became my front arm support-wise, takes some getting used to. Had a good session yesterday with the lines forward, but forearm was sore going into session so took some ibuprofen, afterwards felt just a little soreness in right forearm/elbow so iced it for 20 min. and then felt fine, and today my forearm/elbow is not sore at all even after using a screwdriver! Normally a screwdriver will set it off.
Can you shlogg hands-off the sail and in harness? I've been able to get my lines more balanced recently. Also, been able to commit more into the harness on the fin or foil. I used to cramp up my forearms all the time after a session, and I think it was because they were unbalanced and I wasn't fully weighting the harness.
Now it's mostly soreness if I have a very pump heavy session.
With the short forward lines I now unhook before coming down, and shlogg unhooked. Andy also got me using smaller sails, so was on a 5.8 yesterday in 8-11 with 10-11 knot gusts, normally would of been on 8.0 or 7.2. So shlogging with 5.8 takes less effort than 8.0, but need couple of pumps of 5.8 sail to get up every time, though that did not make my left arm sore, or make my right arm more sore than it was going into session.
With the 8.0 or 7.2 I would pump the foil, not the sail, to get up and thought that was good because my arm was already sore, and thought pumping sail would make it more sore, but as noted above holding boom with front arm was what was making arm sore.
Once up, hooked in and leaned out, using rear hand to sheet in as needed to maintain upwind angle and speed.
I mean are the harness lines balanced? I have been getting mine so that I can just hook in and sail a bit hands-off.
If I don't do that it makes sailing and foiling much much more strenuous.
No, lines are not balanced, they are forward so take the place of front arm, and then I do have to use rear arm to sheet in to adjust speed. When I had them balanced, I got a sore arm, from using front arm too much to adjust sail. Feels very different with lines forward.
Select to expand quoteSandman1221 said..aeroegnr said..Sandman1221 said..aeroegnr said..Sandman1221 said..
What is interesting, is Andy Brandt told me my forearm was getting sore because I was using my front am too much to hold boom when foiling. He wanted me to move harness lines forward to increase upwind angle and so they effectively became my front arm support-wise, takes some getting used to. Had a good session yesterday with the lines forward, but forearm was sore going into session so took some ibuprofen, afterwards felt just a little soreness in right forearm/elbow so iced it for 20 min. and then felt fine, and today my forearm/elbow is not sore at all even after using a screwdriver! Normally a screwdriver will set it off.
Can you shlogg hands-off the sail and in harness? I've been able to get my lines more balanced recently. Also, been able to commit more into the harness on the fin or foil. I used to cramp up my forearms all the time after a session, and I think it was because they were unbalanced and I wasn't fully weighting the harness.
Now it's mostly soreness if I have a very pump heavy session.
With the short forward lines I now unhook before coming down, and shlogg unhooked. Andy also got me using smaller sails, so was on a 5.8 yesterday in 8-11 with 10-11 knot gusts, normally would of been on 8.0 or 7.2. So shlogging with 5.8 takes less effort than 8.0, but need couple of pumps of 5.8 sail to get up every time, though that did not make my left arm sore, or make my right arm more sore than it was going into session.
With the 8.0 or 7.2 I would pump the foil, not the sail, to get up and thought that was good because my arm was already sore, and thought pumping sail would make it more sore, but as noted above holding boom with front arm was what was making arm sore.
Once up, hooked in and leaned out, using rear hand to sheet in as needed to maintain upwind angle and speed.
I mean are the harness lines balanced? I have been getting mine so that I can just hook in and sail a bit hands-off.
If I don't do that it makes sailing and foiling much much more strenuous.
No, lines are not balanced, they are forward so take the place of front arm, and then I do have to use rear arm to sheet in to adjust speed. When I had them balanced, I got a sore arm, from using front arm too much to adjust sail. Feels very different with lines forward.
Every time I've had mine unbalanced it was Not Fun. I haven't had a problem going upwind with them balanced, or downwind for that matter. Something doesn't seem right here.
