Select to expand quoteevlPanda said...McSailing said..
Hellcat, twitchy, centre of effort keeps moving arround.
I'm thinking of getting some Hellcats mainly because I've a NP mast to put them on.
What mast were you using to find them twitchy? (I hate twitchy)
And what size sail wind board combo creates twitchy?
Tried a Turbo 7.5 on a RDM gorilla recently, surprised how easy it is to rig, popped the cams without any outhaul after leaving 5cm on the downhaul. Apart from the two step downhaul no more time than my NCX, so take rigging out of the equation. Cam rotation very smooth without needing a jerk(cant find better word!).. (if not use more downhaul). weight touch heavier and feels it when not planning (NCX has the throwabout feeling) so minus 1, better bottom end but not much if you know how to pump. definitely better through the lulls big plus. waterstart bit harder but not a sea anchor like pure race sails minus 1 (only for those who drop)
overall there is a strong case for turbo for anything over 7m , to me what I miss most in the twin cam version here is the throw about light weight feeling
Select to expand quoteOrange Whip said..
I have used NP twin cam sails for years and currently have a 7.7 and a 6.7 Hornet. My 5.7 is a no-cam Hellcat and every time I use the Hellcat I wish I'd bought a 5.7 Hornet as well. IMO the twin cams guarantee earlier planing, but the biggest advantage is staying on the plane through the lulls. Also, it is a fallacy that twin cam sails take longer to rig, I find it easier and quicker to rig the twin cams because the profile is set automatically with less guess work and more margin for error with the amount of downhaul needed.
sorry, I just realised this thread is not about twin cam vs no cam, my apologies
Which hornets are you using? Id like to go hornet but not sure on sizes as the new ones dont go down to 5.7 anymore.
Can any one comment on the NEW (2015, 2016) Hornets & Hellcats. Much different to the previous shapes?
Cheers
Select to expand quoteBSN101 said...Orange Whip said..
I have used NP twin cam sails for years and currently have a 7.7 and a 6.7 Hornet. My 5.7 is a no-cam Hellcat and every time I use the Hellcat I wish I'd bought a 5.7 Hornet as well. IMO the twin cams guarantee earlier planing, but the biggest advantage is staying on the plane through the lulls. Also, it is a fallacy that twin cam sails take longer to rig, I find it easier and quicker to rig the twin cams because the profile is set automatically with less guess work and more margin for error with the amount of downhaul needed.
sorry, I just realised this thread is not about twin cam vs no cam, my apologies
Which hornets are you using? Id like to go hornet but not sure on sizes as the new ones dont go down to 5.7
Can any one comment on the NEW (2015, 2016) Hornets & Hellcats. Much different to the previous shapes?
I've got a 2015 6.7 hornet . I sail mostly in offshore gusty conditions. I chose the hornet as it kept me on a plane during the lulls vs my mates hellcat.
Had to play with it a bit to get cams rotating as they should.
Great wind range with a bit of tweaking.
Cheers
My Hornets are pre-2015 so can't comment on the newer models. I use NP X6 SDM's and rotation is not an issue like it was on the earlier NP V6's.
I notice the 2016 Hornets have an extra batten which means they would be heavier And possibly have a different feel.
I read in a post recently that with Severne cammed sails you need to let off down haul after out hauling etc to apply the cams, this might explain the common vibe about cammed sails being a pain to rig. Honestly, NP Hornets are ridiculously quick and easy to rig. The only downside to the Hornets is the lack of reinforcing. I've just had the main panel replaced in my 7.7 for $135 by a sail maker which should give me another 2 years use which I'm pretty stoked with.
