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Replacing mast box on Wizard 125 - hits, tips, or tricks?

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Created by jims > 9 months ago, 19 Jun 2022
jims
138 posts
22 Jun 2022 12:09PM
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Oh, also, what do you guys use to plug up the mast box when glassing around and over it? I'm sure I could find something, but if there are specific recommendations of what works well (and doesn't interfere in any way with the epoxy, is easy to remove and clean up, etc), I'd be interested in knowing. (I learned some time ago to keep anything containing silicone away from anything you want glue to stick to, so caulk is out... Spray foam seems like it'd be a serious pain to remove and cleanup later. Maybe modeling clay, tho also seems likely to be a pain to clean up from down inside the track...)

Mr Hooper
WA, 154 posts
22 Jun 2022 1:00PM
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Don't put anything in there. Glass straight over the top of it and trim it out with a flush bearing cutter afterwards. Easy !

Mark _australia
WA, 23437 posts
23 Jun 2022 12:15PM
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Mast track in windSUP - not same as windsuf board install.
Requires far more strength for the latter

jims
138 posts
25 Sep 2022 1:52AM
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Just picked up my board from the repair shop this week. (It'd been ready for over a month, but I hadn't made it out to the coast to pick it up.) This was $90. Granted, I provided the replacement mast box, but even then... (and I left a significant tip...) I could never in a million years have done this myself to that level of quality, not to mention the aesthetics or the price. I've sailed 2 days on it this week, and it's solid as a rock.

If anyone on or near the mid-Atlantic East Coast ever needs repair work done, Donny at Fox Watersports in Buxton, NC comes highly recommended!

Paducah
2784 posts
25 Sep 2022 3:51AM
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Mr Hooper said..
Don't put anything in there. Glass straight over the top of it and trim it out with a flush bearing cutter afterwards. Easy !


Miss him.

jims, how to tell everyone you are American without telling them. I mark my board in cm. Board looks nice and the price was right.

jims
138 posts
26 Sep 2022 10:51AM
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Paducah said..

Mr Hooper said..
Don't put anything in there. Glass straight over the top of it and trim it out with a flush bearing cutter afterwards. Easy !



Miss him.

jims, how to tell everyone you are American without telling them. I mark my board in cm. Board looks nice and the price was right.


LoL, guilty as charged! :-) In my defense, however, the advice I got was to put the mast base 43" in front of the Tuttle bolt, and that came from an Aussie here on this most Aussie of forums! ;->

FWIW, I'm finding between 40 and 41 to be more manageable for me...)

CoreAS
923 posts
26 Sep 2022 10:40PM
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Glad to see you got the wizard fixed up and ready to go Jim, repair looks great.
think I was at 41.25" from leading edge of foil mast to center of UJ.

jims
138 posts
27 Sep 2022 9:55AM
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Yeah, I pushed it forward to 41" this morning, to see if it'd calm down porpoising in the gusty winds. It did, and I also managed my first full foiling gybe! I think the more forward position helped a lot with the gybe.

Grantmac
2314 posts
27 Sep 2022 10:51AM
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43" was a very old recommendation for beginners that keeps being parroted. 38-41" is where most freeride foilers end up.

jims
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27 Sep 2022 11:07AM
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Grantmac said..
43" was a very old recommendation for beginners that keeps being parroted. 38-41" is where most freeride foilers end up.


Thanks, good to know. I like 40", in that it comes up onto the foil pretty easily, and points upwind really well, but I find the fore/aft balance pretty touchy, and especially on the short 61cm mast I need to use for much of the Outer Banks, I find myself foiling out pretty easily and frequently in gusts at 40". I'm surprised that an inch makes such a difference, but with the sail at 41", it's noticeably less touchy (so I'm not foiling out as much in the gusts), and it really seemed to make a difference in my gybe attempts. I did, however, find that I wasn't pointing upwind as well at 41" - again, I'm kinda shocked that 1" would have such a noticeable effect on that, as well.



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