Select to expand quoteMickPC said..Surf69 said..MickPC said..Surf69 said..Surf69 said..
Bit the bullet and now have a 6'4" 21 3/8" x 3" Hypto Krypto Used it once so far and seems pretty good, fast drivey, powers out of turns. A little tighter than i was expecting but still adjusting to find good foot positioning. Off to Bali in a couple of weeks to give it a good go so will provide a ride report then.
Its taken a while to get some great conditions to really give this a fair go,,,,, well I have now, and this I've found :
Summary for those that don't want to get the detail = Took a little to get familiar with but when we jelled it's turned out to be a mighty fine thing and a quality build. Loose as a thruster and Fast, drivey but with good release as a quad in better waves, either way a great paddler.
Now in More detail for those of you even remotely interested.
ME - 6'4" 100kg, above average fitness for age (but then again anything upright and breathing is!) surfer of nearly 40 years.
BOARD - Hayden Hypto Krypto, future flex 6' 4" x 21 3/8 x 3 " 5 fin Set up, running on Haydens own fin templates.
I'd suspect that the board would weigh the equivalent of a PU 4 x 6 x 4 Oz, yet appears to be significantly stronger. All in all much better than expected. Have heard some horror stories about build quality but that's usually directed at offshore produced product. This one was a customer order made in Oz, I've never surfed a shortboard that's been anything but PU Constructions, so its an Epoxy first for me. So far very happy
FIRST : Build Quality - Ordered stringer-less expoxy, glassed strong 12 0z deck 6 ounce bottom. I'm used to heavy glass jobs and want my boards to be durable so was expecting a strong yet heavier board even though expoxy. I was pleasantly surprised to find the board significantly light...(at the cost of multiple pressuries on the deck I was expecting) Yet after about 15 hours of activity over a few weeks there's still no indents on the deck other than a barely noticeable impression that was acquired with thanks to an airline going to Indo, None from feet, none from knees.
- Can see looking down the decks clear of indents. (My usual short board PU's would normally be fairly hammered by now)
- Beautifully shaped rail
THE PERFORMANCE:
AS A QUAD - Fast and drivey, a lot tighter than I expected (in comparison to my Mayhem quad, but that definitely has more area in the tail and the fins closer to the rail) but having said that still has a comfortable if not flirtatious release with lip manoeuvres, with a noticeable acceleration out of rail turns, that took some getting used to. All in all I found that if I'm in super hollow glassy tunnels the quad works very, very well... once you've mastered the slightly more forward foot positioning switching back to the tail block to maximise the boards potential. This thing is a barrel magnet, I think thanks to the widest part of the board forward of centre, tucked in ,sharp edged tails working in sync with the side fins and perfectly matched low'ish rail. (I was expecting a slightly lower rail yet this works well :)
AS A THRUSTER:
Basically I got this with the primary expectation that it would be used as a quad the majority of ownership. My other quad, tried once as a thruster, never went back but this one rides so bloody good as a thruster as well...just different. Definitely two different persona's from the one board. As a thruster I found it to ride marginally slower but probably 30% looser than the quad, a hell of a lot more release allowing for the back foot to push the tail away far easier than the quad, yet with a good deal of control allowed. I found this little quality extremely good fun noting myself that I'm extending my turns and snaps a hell of a lot more and with a lot more confidence as the board seems to allow an easier recovery and therefore control of extreme turns. My son noting " Dad your're killing it on that thing!". Nothing like some positive feedback from the grom's 
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I had an epic day on my back hand recently, this board really shined for me in the thruster set up. It was one of those memorable sessions with just over head, near windless conditions running for 100m's down a shallow reefed point. As a contributing factor to that epic session I'm pointing the finger at the fact that the pulled in pin, combined with sharp rails a third of the way up and awesome bottom contours allowed for some critical turns in and around the lip, combined with the volume and width forward seeming to have a symbiotic relationship with the body mechanics of back hand surfing, always allowing for a stable and forgiving descent to a point where you can drive, vertically to the lip again with the confidence of a pro. Damn it felt good.
Initially I wasn't sure I was happy. It was not a board that felt immediately awesome and for the first couple of surfs I was enthusiastic about it, thinking this was going to be good... but not yet declaring it so. That changed greatly when I got this into good waves and basically , got used to riding it. It goes well in mediocre waves but it really shines in quality waves small or large, I wouldn't have it or use it as a groveler by any stretch.
I ride big boards and Longboards a lot and this is allowing for an easy transition between those and this, even going from the 9'5" down to this at 6'4" feels OK and still manage a speedy comfortable paddle as opposed to feeling like your laying on a tea bag. The quality has proven to be more durable than expected and is pretty damn light considering the heavier glass option.
All in all I wouldn't hesitate recommending one, I didn't find it a magic board initially, but after the surfs I've had on it lately...I DO NOW!!
Yeah I love my 6'0 mate, great boards. Didn't get board of the year 2 or 3 times for nothing...havta show you my fin setup, I go Shapers S9's in head & 1/2 & Shapers S9 sides with solus funky cutaway type fin in the back in small to medium waves.
Interested in the funky cutaway!
NP yeah I'm really liking this setup. I was just gonna post a rear fin from a solus setup, but the shops just have pics of the sidefins which are compararable size to AM2. The solus rear fin is smaller than them & I tried to take pics to show it. But its heaps smaller than Shapers S9's when you eyeball them in the flesh, S9's are more like MR twins, maybe a little bigger. One youtube video by the surfboard wharehouse descibed it as a hatchet, but hey its basically a shortboard cutaway imo and surfboard wharehouse also has a weird photo that appears to have a front fin as a rear fin, so....lol...but anyway, a few piccies. You have the 5 option, but the board was designed as a thruster & I think Hayden was like yeah why not with lots of requests for a 5 option. Not to say heaps of fun cannot be had & the wider tail of a 6'4 compared to the 5'6's & 5'8's the younger crew go for makes for a whole different story. Its the kinda board I would like to have a smaller & larger board in the quiver haha...people either love them or hate them, I'm loving it 
Its a versatile board, for versatile waves, surfers and fin setups...wish I had one back in my prime.
Thats epic! I want one. I've got FCS2's though :(
I can see why that would work with the HK.
RE: the Quad set up, definitely prefer it to the thruster when its bigger and hollow, but you can tell its an after thought. Id be interested in how much the difference is with the just thruster set up with the fins 1/8" back. Be hard to get any better i would have thought, but as you say it was initially a thruster only. Mind boggles
Thanks for the pics!
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Finbox on that board is 2+1 so he has an adapter to go the regset.
. Finbox on that board is 2+1 so he has an adapter to go the regset.
Select to expand quoteMickPC said..
Heap of Hype on this, seems to be heavily targeted at people who already have a Hypto as the next step for them, quite clever and specific campaign and why wouldn't you ....if he got 50% of people who have or have had a HK onto the HG he'd have another board of the year.
But for me i get everything out of the Hypto he's claiming the HG with give.
Select to expand quoteSurf69 said..MickPC said..
Heap of Hype on this, seems to be heavily targeted at people who already have a Hypto as the next step for them, quite clever and specific campaign and why wouldn't you ....if he got 50% of people who have or have had a HK onto the HG he'd have another board of the year.
But for me i get everything out of the Hypto he's claiming the HG with give.
Its been a while now & I missed your reply 10 days ago....but I remember when I posted that I felt after I should have commented on the video. I wasn't recommending that particular board. i posted it coz Hayden gives a good run down on the differences between the Hypto & a more HP shape.
I will ride the Hypto in 90% of shortboard conditions locally. Most of my surfs are on fat reefies. But when it gets over head & 1/2 & suckier although the Hypto can handle it with a bit of nursing on bottom turns. My lovebuzz which is the same volume but a bit narrower & pointier in the nose handles the bottom turns much easier & is a lot faster.
Not the time of year for any of that to matter, but worth considering for next April/May. I've become a real fanboy of HS boards, I've got 3 now & enjoy all of them. Although 2 were made by a bloke in Bali who is a master of cloning HS shapes, especially the Hypto
Select to expand quoteMickPC said..Surf69 said..MickPC said..
Heap of Hype on this, seems to be heavily targeted at people who already have a Hypto as the next step for them, quite clever and specific campaign and why wouldn't you ....if he got 50% of people who have or have had a HK onto the HG he'd have another board of the year.
But for me i get everything out of the Hypto he's claiming the HG with give.
Its been a while now & I missed your reply 10 days ago....but I remember when I posted that I felt after I should have commented on the video. I wasn't recommending that particular board. i posted it coz Hayden gives a good run down on the differences between the Hypto & a more HP shape.
I will ride the Hypto in 90% of shortboard conditions locally. Most of my surfs are on fat reefies. But when it gets over head & 1/2 & suckier although the Hypto can handle it with a bit of nursing on bottom turns. My lovebuzz which is the same volume but a bit narrower & pointier in the nose handles the bottom turns much easier & is a lot faster.
Not the time of year for any of that to matter, but worth considering for next April/May. I've become a real fanboy of HS boards, I've got 3 now & enjoy all of them. Although 2 were made by a bloke in Bali who is a master of cloning HS shapes, especially the Hypto
Yep, its long board season :)
Sure is bro, its been flat here for almost 2 weeks now. Good coz a sea ulcer is just about healed from the relentless waves we had...will probably take the Hypto & the whalebone (to be repaired/ridden) to Bali in 4 weeks. Will make the paddle out to the SE reefies a lot easier at least. I said I'd never take a longboard to Bali again, but I'm thinking I will 
Been thinking about this board for more than a year. But mac made me feel bad about getting it.
F you mac dam you.
6.6 fountain of youth. Thing flies is loose and nose trims instantly fun in the small waves we've been getting
Funny everyone bags sbw boards but i have only had good times on all 3 i have brought
Select to expand quotelaceys lane said..
Been thinking about this board for more than a year. But mac made me feel bad about getting it.
F you mac dam you.
Rubbish,is this the board you were talking about that day when a guy got more waves than you
Select to expand quoteMacaha said..laceys lane said..
Been thinking about this board for more than a year. But mac made me feel bad about getting it.
F you mac dam you.
Rubbish,is this the board you were talking about that day when a guy got more waves than you
Morning mac
Select to expand quotelaceys lane said..
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Ah yes - The Asea & I know the wall in that street very well
Select to expand quotelaceys lane said..
Been thinking about this board for more than a year. But mac made me feel bad about getting it.
F you mac dam you.
6.6 fountain of youth. Thing flies is loose and nose trims instantly fun in the small waves we've been getting
Funny everyone bags sbw boards but i have only had good times on all 3 i have brought
I think people bag them cause they are imported and made in China or somewhere overseas.. The designs look good. That looks a lot like a Tak scorpion.
Select to expand quoteSP said..laceys lane said..
Been thinking about this board for more than a year. But mac made me feel bad about getting it.
F you mac dam you.
6.6 fountain of youth. Thing flies is loose and nose trims instantly fun in the small waves we've been getting
Funny everyone bags sbw boards but i have only had good times on all 3 i have brought
I think people bag them cause they are imported and made in China or somewhere overseas.. The designs look good. That looks a lot like a Tak scorpion.
Reasonable amount of nose concave going out to v in the tail.
Select to expand quoteSP said..laceys lane said..
Been thinking about this board for more than a year. But mac made me feel bad about getting it.
F you mac dam you.
6.6 fountain of youth. Thing flies is loose and nose trims instantly fun in the small waves we've been getting
Funny everyone bags sbw boards but i have only had good times on all 3 i have brought
I think people bag them cause they are imported and made in China or somewhere overseas.. The designs look good. That looks a lot like a Tak scorpion.
That is exactly why tgey get bagged.
Lacey has someones melodramatic nature been rubbing off on you lol
I love watching the pros pump out the clips...but I really like this laid back stuff. Maybe the dodgy music got my mojo flowing
Select to expand quotelaceys lane said..SP said..laceys lane said..
Been thinking about this board for more than a year. But mac made me feel bad about getting it.
F you mac dam you.
6.6 fountain of youth. Thing flies is loose and nose trims instantly fun in the small waves we've been getting
Funny everyone bags sbw boards but i have only had good times on all 3 i have brought
I think people bag them cause they are imported and made in China or somewhere overseas.. The designs look good. That looks a lot like a Tak scorpion.
Reasonable amount of nose concave going out to v in the tail.
Sounds like it does what you hoped the DVS would..
Everyone needs a good Groveller for summer, frustration sets in if you don't..
Select to expand quoteSP said..laceys lane said..SP said..laceys lane said..
Been thinking about this board for more than a year. But mac made me feel bad about getting it.
F you mac dam you.
6.6 fountain of youth. Thing flies is loose and nose trims instantly fun in the small waves we've been getting
Funny everyone bags sbw boards but i have only had good times on all 3 i have brought
I think people bag them cause they are imported and made in China or somewhere overseas.. The designs look good. That looks a lot like a Tak scorpion.
Reasonable amount of nose concave going out to v in the tail.
Sounds like it does what you hoped the DVS would..
Everyone needs a good Groveller for summer, frustration sets in if you don't..
Difference is this one has a decent weigh to it. Ive come to realize if your going to have a bucket load of vol in shorter board,its going to need some weight to it.
Select to expand quotelaceys lane said..SP said..laceys lane said..SP said..laceys lane said..
Been thinking about this board for more than a year. But mac made me feel bad about getting it.
F you mac dam you.
6.6 fountain of youth. Thing flies is loose and nose trims instantly fun in the small waves we've been getting
Funny everyone bags sbw boards but i have only had good times on all 3 i have brought
I think people bag them cause they are imported and made in China or somewhere overseas.. The designs look good. That looks a lot like a Tak scorpion.
Reasonable amount of nose concave going out to v in the tail.
Sounds like it does what you hoped the DVS would..
Everyone needs a good Groveller for summer, frustration sets in if you don't..
Difference is this one has a decent weigh to it. Ive come to realize if your going to have a bucket load of vol in shorter board,its going to need some weight to it.
Washers work a treat
Select to expand quotechrispy said..
I love watching the pros pump out the clips...but I really like this laid back stuff. Maybe the dodgy music got my mojo flowing
I found the diverse range of surfboard shapes & surfing styles interesting. They're all like competing in some world surfing championship, but the boards are so different. You can see the crossover from longboard to shortboard evolving
And topless sunbaking, damn those 80's slip, slop, slap ads 
Select to expand quotelaceys lane said..SP said..laceys lane said..SP said..laceys lane said..
Been thinking about this board for more than a year. But mac made me feel bad about getting it.
F you mac dam you.
6.6 fountain of youth. Thing flies is loose and nose trims instantly fun in the small waves we've been getting
Funny everyone bags sbw boards but i have only had good times on all 3 i have brought
I think people bag them cause they are imported and made in China or somewhere overseas.. The designs look good. That looks a lot like a Tak scorpion.
Reasonable amount of nose concave going out to v in the tail.
Sounds like it does what you hoped the DVS would..
Everyone needs a good Groveller for summer, frustration sets in if you don't..
Difference is this one has a decent weigh to it. Ive come to realize if your going to have a bucket load of vol in shorter board,its going to need some weight to it.
Agree. I get everything glassed heavy. Not a fan of light boards. I reckon weight equals momentum once they are moving.
Select to expand quoteSP said..laceys lane said..SP said..laceys lane said..SP said..laceys lane said..
Been thinking about this board for more than a year. But mac made me feel bad about getting it.
F you mac dam you.
6.6 fountain of youth. Thing flies is loose and nose trims instantly fun in the small waves we've been getting
Funny everyone bags sbw boards but i have only had good times on all 3 i have brought
I think people bag them cause they are imported and made in China or somewhere overseas.. The designs look good. That looks a lot like a Tak scorpion.
Reasonable amount of nose concave going out to v in the tail.
Sounds like it does what you hoped the DVS would..
Everyone needs a good Groveller for summer, frustration sets in if you don't..
Difference is this one has a decent weigh to it. Ive come to realize if your going to have a bucket load of vol in shorter board,its going to need some weight to it.
Agree. I get everything glassed heavy. Not a fan of light boards. I reckon weight equals momentum once they are moving.
Agree anything under 20 kgs is light weight.
Select to expand quoteMacaha said..SP said..laceys lane said..SP said..laceys lane said..SP said..laceys lane said..
Been thinking about this board for more than a year. But mac made me feel bad about getting it.
F you mac dam you.
6.6 fountain of youth. Thing flies is loose and nose trims instantly fun in the small waves we've been getting
Funny everyone bags sbw boards but i have only had good times on all 3 i have brought
I think people bag them cause they are imported and made in China or somewhere overseas.. The designs look good. That looks a lot like a Tak scorpion.
Reasonable amount of nose concave going out to v in the tail.
Sounds like it does what you hoped the DVS would..
Everyone needs a good Groveller for summer, frustration sets in if you don't..
Difference is this one has a decent weigh to it. Ive come to realize if your going to have a bucket load of vol in shorter board,its going to need some weight to it.
Agree. I get everything glassed heavy. Not a fan of light boards. I reckon weight equals momentum once they are moving.
Agree anything under 20 kgs is light weight.
No wonder you go to the gym if your boards are that heavy.. I couldn't carry that to the water, let alone turn it...
