Shark Eyes?

Some more ideas from the wacky to maybe?

www.facebook.com/sharkcamo.com.au/videos/1371523336259515/

radiator.net/collections/shark-deterrent-surf-range/products/surfboard-sticker-for-6-7ft-board

www.ebay.com.au/itm/SHARKCAMO-WETSUITS-3mm-Size-Small-Sold-Out-M-L-XL-XXL-XXXL-Christmas-sale-/282201680702 - Not for me

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Gotta love the striped wetsuit idea!

"The design resembles the markings of a banded sea snake, which may be a dangerous food option for sharks. It's also reminiscent of a pilot fish, which live in close proximity to sharks without getting eaten."

Total BS!

Work on the gut contents of Australian Tiger Sharks have shown sea snakes are a VERY commonly eaten food item. Even Wiki lists this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_shark

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termite said..
Gotta love the striped wetsuit idea!

"The design resembles the markings of a banded sea snake, which may be a dangerous food option for sharks. It's also reminiscent of a pilot fish, which live in close proximity to sharks without getting eaten."

Total BS!

Work on the gut contents of Australian Tiger Sharks have shown sea snakes are a VERY commonly eaten food item. Even Wiki lists this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_shark

Who knew? Not me that's for sure.

Amazing how we can just assume that something is true because someone suggested so.

I did wonder if sea snakes are truely a threat to a shark why not simply put a picture of an actual sea snake on the bottom of your board instead of trying to mimic a pattern?

On the surf wax I read an interesting article that debunked the effectiveness of it. Very scientifically stating that sharks don't have the same olfactory receptors as humans, that's common sense. Which means that they are unlikely to find certain "smells" (if that's what it is in the water) as offensive as humans do.

Still maybe a combination of stink and visual confusion could put a predator off you and focused on your buddy in the line up

So far in everything that I have seen and investigated it seems that the best option is an active deterrent.

Based on a number of studies that passive deterrent proponents dispute as unfair, it seems that active electronic devices offer some actual protection in mitigating a shark encounter escalation.

Predatory habits of sharks do not seem to differ much between species, all are ambush and opportunistic predators. There seems to be some evidence that larger species of sharks do not always rely on ambush or evaluation of their targets, and are more opportunistic due to their actual size and the reduced likelihood of injury. Whereas more juvenile inexperienced and smaller sharks will have some sort of inbuilt mechanism to evaluate risk versus reward.

Then again a hungry tiger shark will even eat car tyres and number plates.

The only passive deterrent that I give any real credence to would be active camouflage and being able to remain hidden in the water for longer. It aligns with one of the most primary methods of evasion used throughout nature, countershading. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countershading

I think this would be my first economic line of defense, followed by an active deterrent that fit's less invasively into your equipment or onto your person.

Be interested to hear others thoughts, ideas and experiences?

One things for certain, I wont be buying one of these:

The makers say the test was not fair because the band only works when in motion, that it's the motion of the magnets through the water that somehow creates a small electrical charge that disrupts the sharks senses. And that this video actually evidences this when the shark removes the band, takes it into it's mouth, and then spits it out supposedly because of the discomfort it causes as the shark moves through the water.

I call BS on that but each to their own.

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Hydromann said..
So far in everything that I have seen and investigated it seems that the best option is an active deterrent.

Based on a number of studies that passive deterrent proponents dispute as unfair, it seems that active electronic devices offer some actual protection in mitigating a shark encounter escalation.

Predatory habits of sharks do not seem to differ much between species, all are ambush and opportunistic predators. There seems to be some evidence that larger species of sharks do not always rely on ambush or evaluation of their targets, and are more opportunistic due to their actual size and the reduced likelihood of injury. Whereas more juvenile inexperienced and smaller sharks will have some sort of inbuilt mechanism to evaluate risk versus reward.

Then again a hungry tiger shark will even eat car tyres and number plates.

The only passive deterrent that I give any real credence to would be active camouflage and being able to remain hidden in the water for longer. It aligns with one of the most primary methods of evasion used throughout nature, countershading. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countershading

I think this would be my first economic line of defense, followed by an active deterrent that fit's less invasively into your equipment or onto your person.

Be interested to hear others thoughts, ideas and experiences?

One things for certain, I wont be buying one of these:

The makers say the test was not fair because the band only works when in motion, that it's the motion of the magnets through the water that somehow creates a small electrical charge that disrupts the sharks senses. And that this video actually evidences this when the shark removes the band, takes it into it's mouth, and then spits it out supposedly because of the discomfort it causes as the shark moves through the water.

I call BS on that but each to their own.

This style of video testimonials is not correct. TBH it would be very interesting to know who paid for that testing? My bet is the biggest competitor in this space

I see what your trying to do, to get a good idea of deterrents, but can i suggest you also get an education on the threat. Sharks themselves, how they use sight, sound and other systems to hunt. Their patterns and movements. This will help explain much of what your looking for.

If you look at the last two surfing attacks, both would have been avoided if people had used caution over bravado.

Bens attack in Mandurah, again, if the adequate warnings had been in place, (signs saying large shark sighted) then possibly things would have been very different. Take out all those times and the rate of attack is very low in the first place. It's just a media beat up.

Some people use devices, (I do) but each to their own IMHO..

Some products are designed to help, some are just to make money. Some a mixture of both, Same as every economical market i guess..

The truth though, i find is not to be found online in forums, direct brand research is the only answer IMHO.

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laceys lane said..
The truth is here .
In the longboard room

Get everything. Camo,eyes. magnets snakes. All the electrical devices. Knifes guns spears.
You can never have enough gear when your surfing

I'll need to mod my board and install a canister with repellent, put some shark repelling chum in my leg rope key holder, electrify my leg rope, get a back up leg rope and put magnets on it, paint the bottom of my board in camo, paint the top with a couple of sea snakes, get an invisibility wetsuit, get me a hat with shark eyes all around, put up a magnetic barrier net around my favorite surf breaks, strap two spear guns to my board and hire a guy with a shark spotting drone to monitor my surroundings.

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jbshack said..

Hydromann said..
So far in everything that I have seen and investigated it seems that the best option is an active deterrent.

Based on a number of studies that passive deterrent proponents dispute as unfair, it seems that active electronic devices offer some actual protection in mitigating a shark encounter escalation.

Predatory habits of sharks do not seem to differ much between species, all are ambush and opportunistic predators. There seems to be some evidence that larger species of sharks do not always rely on ambush or evaluation of their targets, and are more opportunistic due to their actual size and the reduced likelihood of injury. Whereas more juvenile inexperienced and smaller sharks will have some sort of inbuilt mechanism to evaluate risk versus reward.

Then again a hungry tiger shark will even eat car tyres and number plates.

The only passive deterrent that I give any real credence to would be active camouflage and being able to remain hidden in the water for longer. It aligns with one of the most primary methods of evasion used throughout nature, countershading. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countershading

I think this would be my first economic line of defense, followed by an active deterrent that fit's less invasively into your equipment or onto your person.

Be interested to hear others thoughts, ideas and experiences?

One things for certain, I wont be buying one of these:

The makers say the test was not fair because the band only works when in motion, that it's the motion of the magnets through the water that somehow creates a small electrical charge that disrupts the sharks senses. And that this video actually evidences this when the shark removes the band, takes it into it's mouth, and then spits it out supposedly because of the discomfort it causes as the shark moves through the water.

I call BS on that but each to their own.

This style of video testimonials is not correct. TBH it would be very interesting to know who paid for that testing? My bet is the biggest competitor in this space

I see what your trying to do, to get a good idea of deterrents, but can i suggest you also get an education on the threat. Sharks themselves, how they use sight, sound and other systems to hunt. Their patterns and movements. This will help explain much of what your looking for.

If you look at the last two surfing attacks, both would have been avoided if people had used caution over bravado.

Bens attack in Mandurah, again, if the adequate warnings had been in place, (signs saying large shark sighted) then possibly things would have been very different. Take out all those times and the rate of attack is very low in the first place. It's just a media beat up.

Some people use devices, (I do) but each to their own IMHO..

Some products are designed to help, some are just to make money. Some a mixture of both, Same as every economical market i guess..

The truth though, i find is not to be found online in forums, direct brand research is the only answer IMHO.

Thanks JB,

Not trying to do anything, just a topic of interest to me. Not pushing one thing over another, simply stating my understanding of what is around.

BTW if you are in the line up with me, please have the decency to let me know that you are using a device. Because according to latest research and observation by actual water men these things attract sharks before they deter them.

If me or a mate were in a line up and attacked only to find out that someone had a device on I would be pissed off big time. It should be mandatory to have a big sticker on your deck saying that you're electrified.

And I agree, education is paramount on shark habits, and the fact that no two sharks have the exact same predatory tendancies because they are not raised like dolphins in a pack, they are not educated to hunt a certain way through nurturing. They fend for themselves immediately and learn from experience what works for them and what does not, and that varies as much from shark to shark as it does from species to species. Yes they do have instinctive behavior patterns that are common to being sharks but they also very much have individual personalities and preferences and as well.

I am fortunate in that my daughter in laws sister is a marine biologist who understanding these things in depth. But also acknowledges that you would be hard pressed to find any marine biologist that would recommend any one specific device to protect against all threats presented by sharks. In fact her equation is simple, the more you are in the water the greater your risk, if you spend time in the water at know ambush times of dawn and dusk, or if you choose to surf in low visibility, or if you surf among bait fish your an idiot. She preaches about reducing your risk but ultimately accepting your exposure in their domain. Her go to is camo and shark eyes, specifically for ease of use and she is also considering magnets because when they are active in the water it has been scientifically proven that they do work on some species.

My sons have Shark Shields for free diving, if they are bringing them along she will not dive with them based on the latest research because she would become the target.

Personally I am not convinced of any one products ability bar the stinky stuff which I have a can of and have used once when sailing my small trimaran to scare off a tiger shark, and yes it did work but I had the advantage of being in a boat and not dangling in the water.

Necramones seem the most logical thing to me, but others believe that they attract larger sharks looking to scavenge off the rotting carcass of another species.

I just watched a vid by this woman that communicates with sharks and the sharks have told her they don't want to eat us but we put out these competitive aggressive vibes due to competing for waves which is a perceived threat to the sharks,sooooo what you should do before every surf is sit on the beach and put your thoughts out to all sharks that you are not in competition with them but to share the ocean with them, if one approaches subliminally create a perimeter around yourself so the shark knows not to enter
I tried it before my last surf and it worked,Im so happy and relaxed now and have no fear of sharks at all unless Im catapulted 6 feet in the air by a subliminally ignorant behemoth

shark repelling chum

www.sharktecdefense.com/

Chop a piece off the block, stick it in your leg rope key holder and your good for a session.

And before anyone points out the obvious yes you will end up smelling like a dead fish, shark to be exact.

Not a lot different to a days fishing I guess?

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Hydromann said..
shark repelling chum

www.sharktecdefense.com/

Chop a piece off the block, stick it in your leg rope key holder and your good for a session.

And before anyone points out the obvious yes you will end up smelling like a dead fish, shark to be exact.

Not a lot different to a days fishing I guess?

No shark fisherman ever uses shark as Burley for shark fishing.
Pretty sure the US navy have been pursuing this as an avenue for decreasing interactions for a long time.

Cheers. Be interested to read the research, last report I saw on the shark shields kinda said that it was a myth.

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Hydromann said..

Ricardo1709 said..
I just watched a vid by this woman that communicates with sharks and the sharks have told her they don't want to eat us but we put out these competitive aggressive vibes due to competing for waves which is a perceived threat to the sharks,sooooo what you should do before every surf is sit on the beach and put your thoughts out to all sharks that you are not in competition with them but to share the ocean with them, if one approaches subliminally create a perimeter around yourself so the shark knows not to enter
I tried it before my last surf and it worked,Im so happy and relaxed now and have no fear of sharks at all unless Im catapulted 6 feet in the air by a subliminally ignorant behemoth

Dude that was gold.

No This is GOLD

BTW nothing she stated was unknown facts, apart from humans tasting too salty? Which I find surprising given that sharks live in a saline environment that has a much higher concentration of sodium than the average human body how can we then taste salty?

I think there must have been some miscommunication (horse ****e) happening at a quantum telepathic level of collective consciousness.

Either that or she was thinking about bacon ??.

mmmm bacon, breaky time.

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Hydromann said..
BTW nothing she stated was unknown facts, apart from humans tasting too salty? Which I find surprising given that sharks live in a saline environment that has a much higher concentration of sodium than the average human body how can we then taste salty?

I think there must have been some miscommunication (horse ****e) happening at a quantum telepathic level of collective consciousness.

Either that or she was thinking about bacon ??.

mmmm bacon, breaky time.

Some of macs responses are a bit salty.

nice chunk of rump dangling off a shark drum works well.

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jbshack said..

SP said..

Hydromann said..
shark repelling chum

www.sharktecdefense.com/

Chop a piece off the block, stick it in your leg rope key holder and your good for a session.

And before anyone points out the obvious yes you will end up smelling like a dead fish, shark to be exact.

Not a lot different to a days fishing I guess?

Cheers. Be interested to read the research, last report I saw on the shark shields kinda said that it was a myth.

It's only a myth and there is no research. A shark will detect your heartbeat a long time before and electrical current omitted, be it DC or AC.
Sharks are repealed with an electrical current that sharks detect only from a meter or two away, hence why it's so effective.

Its kinda like having research that proves you can't see for 100 kms away with the naked eye.

Lol