That Outlier isn't cheap. I always wondered why FW boards are that expensive when they pump them out by the 1000's
All that eco marketing isn't cheap to produce. You need to spend a lot of money to convince people that surfboards that travel half way around the world and last no longer than a well made local board are better for tge environment.
Bahahaha facts
Fw have been selling over priced **** way before covid started in a ****ing delicious bowl of bat wing soup with dumplings ...plus Kelly is the perfect example of hypocrisy is our greatest luxury
**** fw ![]()
This popped up on my youtube feed today (soz if it has been on here before). Quite an entertaining clip. ![]()
posted this on shortboard forum but was kindly suggested I'd do better here. Had a couple of suggestions already, thanksHope you guys can help, want to get a board as a gift for my 26 yo son. He surfs shortboards and 9' longboard and has expressed interest in a 7' single fin. He is 70kg and 6' tall, will be surfing shore break and smaller point breaks (Sandy Pt, Vicco, Flinders, Lorne etc but may want to travel and use it on OS point breaks when we can get on a plane again. Good surfer rather than great, can duck dive, limited time on water because of working heaps.
So any suggestions would be much appreciated, wants a good all rounder and fun new board experience. I only foil and sup surf so haven't got a bloody clue!
couple of suggestions so far, McTavish Bluebird, single fin from Occy at Yahoo, also wondered if the Howard Special Takyama could be the one.
Thanks
I agree somewhat with Chrispy, I ride my Single in about everything but if the waves are small/fast/round I switch out to a twin as it will hold better in those conditions.
Single's are pretty limited and take some getting used too... You have to surf with the wave, turn and trim when the wave allows, its a mellower style thats about connection whereas a 2-4 fin cluster will allow much more freedom as to where you can go and what you can do on the wave...
Really though, you cant go wrong with a Tak HSM or for a bit more HP the CI Mid. Ride em as a 1+2 or ride it as a single, means you can at least experiment and not be stuck with something you aren't into.
Thanks so much for your help guys really appreciate the time you all put in to responding. Can't believe how active this part of SeaBreeze is and a great vibe as well
posted this on shortboard forum but was kindly suggested I'd do better here. Had a couple of suggestions already, thanksHope you guys can help, want to get a board as a gift for my 26 yo son. He surfs shortboards and 9' longboard and has expressed interest in a 7' single fin. He is 70kg and 6' tall, will be surfing shore break and smaller point breaks (Sandy Pt, Vicco, Flinders, Lorne etc but may want to travel and use it on OS point breaks when we can get on a plane again. Good surfer rather than great, can duck dive, limited time on water because of working heaps.
So any suggestions would be much appreciated, wants a good all rounder and fun new board experience. I only foil and sup surf so haven't got a bloody clue!
couple of suggestions so far, McTavish Bluebird, single fin from Occy at Yahoo, also wondered if the Howard Special Takyama could be the one.
Thanks
It depends what he's after. There's some good suggestions but I'd put a vote in for a Neal Purchase Jr. single, especially if he rides shortboards. You can cruise them but there also surprisingly high performance if you want to take that approach. Again they are somewhat pricey but his boards are well worth the money IMO. Surfing footage at 3:50.
posted this on shortboard forum but was kindly suggested I'd do better here. Had a couple of suggestions already, thanksHope you guys can help, want to get a board as a gift for my 26 yo son. He surfs shortboards and 9' longboard and has expressed interest in a 7' single fin. He is 70kg and 6' tall, will be surfing shore break and smaller point breaks (Sandy Pt, Vicco, Flinders, Lorne etc but may want to travel and use it on OS point breaks when we can get on a plane again. Good surfer rather than great, can duck dive, limited time on water because of working heaps.
So any suggestions would be much appreciated, wants a good all rounder and fun new board experience. I only foil and sup surf so haven't got a bloody clue!
couple of suggestions so far, McTavish Bluebird, single fin from Occy at Yahoo, also wondered if the Howard Special Takyama could be the one.
Thanks
The CI mid, Takayama Howard Special, Christenson C bucket or Flat Tracker are all good shouts but for something different, a Liddle hull.
I got one recently from Mike Saggus down in Ulladulla - beautiful board.
Or a Gato Heroi, Andy from wild things is a legend, either a space pig pg or an acid- depending on the waves but either way Mike or Andy will help you dial it in
Great list one fin. I'll add a campbell bros bonzer speed egg to it.
bonzer5.com/boards/speed-egg/

As a suggestion to the original poster l, as you're buying it for your kid and he may not completely love a single fin good option to whatever you decide on to get some side bite fin plugs in it if it's a single, give him another option and a bit more range in trying things out.
Great list one fin. I'll add a campbell bros bonzer speed egg to it.
bonzer5.com/boards/speed-egg/

As a suggestion to the original poster l, as you're buying it for your kid and he may not completely love a single fin good option to whatever you decide on to get some side bite fin plugs in it if it's a single, give him another option and a bit more range in trying things out.
Oh yeah! one of those with the e-wing and a pulled in nose is on my bucket list.......... not sure if a 5 fin speed shape with a wing is still an egg but whatever!
Question what hairstyle suits a mid length ![]()
that's irrelevant.......... it's the beard style that counts when riding a mid length ![]()
Question what hairstyle suits a mid length ![]()
My style, Viking mullet and beard.
Also known as lazy unkept old man ![]()
Works equally well for minials and longboards.
posted this on shortboard forum but was kindly suggested I'd do better here. Had a couple of suggestions already, thanksHope you guys can help, want to get a board as a gift for my 26 yo son. He surfs shortboards and 9' longboard and has expressed interest in a 7' single fin. He is 70kg and 6' tall, will be surfing shore break and smaller point breaks (Sandy Pt, Vicco, Flinders, Lorne etc but may want to travel and use it on OS point breaks when we can get on a plane again. Good surfer rather than great, can duck dive, limited time on water because of working heaps.
So any suggestions would be much appreciated, wants a good all rounder and fun new board experience. I only foil and sup surf so haven't got a bloody clue!
couple of suggestions so far, McTavish Bluebird, single fin from Occy at Yahoo, also wondered if the Howard Special Takyama could be the one.
Thanks
I agree somewhat with Chrispy, I ride my Single in about everything but if the waves are small/fast/round I switch out to a twin as it will hold better in those conditions.
Single's are pretty limited and take some getting used too... You have to surf with the wave, turn and trim when the wave allows, its a mellower style thats about connection whereas a 2-4 fin cluster will allow much more freedom as to where you can go and what you can do on the wave...
Really though, you cant go wrong with a Tak HSM or for a bit more HP the CI Mid. Ride em as a 1+2 or ride it as a single, means you can at least experiment and not be stuck with something you aren't into.
Thanks so much for your help guys really appreciate the time you all put in to responding. Can't believe how active this part of SeaBreeze is and a great vibe as well
No worries dude, best of luck with it... lots of great suggestions here too...
Just as a side note/my vote... My absolute no1 suggestion by far would be a 7'6"-7'10" Ryan Lovelace Thicklizzy/Trimcraft Hayley Pin, best board i've ridden and seems to be the opinion of most that have them, my 7'7" is the one board i'll never sell. I did sell my 8'2" but only because it felt too close to my 7'7". The dude I sold it too absolutely LOVES it, thanks me every time I see him, he just doesn't even surf anything else anymore and he has an impressive quiver that includes Gato's, Thomas Bexton and Wegener boards... So fast and balanced and versatile. A board thats easy to surf but difficult to master with incredible range and reward...
The issue is getting one, rare as hens teeth but keep an eye on GT and I can check in with Ryan and see if they are setting up another shipment to Aus if you like?
Cheers
No worries dude, best of luck with it... lots of great suggestions here too...
Just as a side note/my vote... My absolute no1 suggestion by far would be a 7'6"-7'10" Ryan Lovelace Thicklizzy/Trimcraft Hayley Pin, best board i've ridden and seems to be the opinion of most that have them, my 7'7" is the one board i'll never sell. I did sell my 8'2" but only because it felt too close to my 7'7". The dude I sold it too absolutely LOVES it, thanks me every time I see him, he just doesn't even surf anything else anymore and he has an impressive quiver that includes Gato's, Thomas Bexton and Wegener boards... So fast and balanced and versatile. A board thats easy to surf but difficult to master with incredible range and reward...
The issue is getting one, rare as hens teeth but keep an eye on GT and I can check in with Ryan and see if they are setting up another shipment to Aus if you like?
Cheers
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This popped up on my youtube feed today (soz if it has been on here before). Quite an entertaining clip. ![]()
Hey everyone. Just signed up as I've just sold my boards here in Japan and checking options for my return back in Aus. This review was great as was the list by onefin. It's given me plenty to look at. I've just sold my proctor fish and softech bomber so am thinking a Takayama or CI mid will do perfectly when I can hit some proper waves. This community seems awesome too. Cheers! (PS sorry for the PM greeny just working out how all this works)
This popped up on my youtube feed today (soz if it has been on here before). Quite an entertaining clip. ![]()
Hey everyone. Just signed up as I've just sold my boards here in Japan and checking options for my return back in Aus. This review was great as was the list by onefin. It's given me plenty to look at. I've just sold my proctor fish and softech bomber so am thinking a Takayama or CI mid will do perfectly when I can hit some proper waves. This community seems awesome too. Cheers! (PS sorry for the PM greeny just working out how all this works)
Cheers, SEJ. Welcome to the breeze. Yep, there are some great mid-length boards on the market. A bit of research and a few yen will get you a cracker. Happy hunting. ![]()
He forgot to add: act on the advice of complete strangers on surfing forums (or any kind of forum for that matter) at your own peril!![]()
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Yet this blokes whole deal is pure marketing, bit ironic.
I agree with what he says,but come on
posted this on shortboard forum but was kindly suggested I'd do better here. Had a couple of suggestions already, thanksHope you guys can help, want to get a board as a gift for my 26 yo son. He surfs shortboards and 9' longboard and has expressed interest in a 7' single fin. He is 70kg and 6' tall, will be surfing shore break and smaller point breaks (Sandy Pt, Vicco, Flinders, Lorne etc but may want to travel and use it on OS point breaks when we can get on a plane again. Good surfer rather than great, can duck dive, limited time on water because of working heaps.
So any suggestions would be much appreciated, wants a good all rounder and fun new board experience. I only foil and sup surf so haven't got a bloody clue!
couple of suggestions so far, McTavish Bluebird, single fin from Occy at Yahoo, also wondered if the Howard Special Takyama could be the one.
Thanks
It depends what he's after. There's some good suggestions but I'd put a vote in for a Neal Purchase Jr. single, especially if he rides shortboards. You can cruise them but there also surprisingly high performance if you want to take that approach. Again they are somewhat pricey but his boards are well worth the money IMO. Surfing footage at 3:50.
One of my favourite boards is a single with aggressive channels in it. Sort of like having two extra fins in it....amazing what good shapers can do....
In saying that,I have much better boards to surf when the waves are less than ideal
Get on this people...
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/point-arkwright/surfing/7-1-midlength-big-guy-short-board-high-performance-surfboard/1268725190
I'm too far away and am getting a custom almost exactly like it make locally anyway.
Hydro
Designed for pipeline can't see how it would go in your average Australian surf, just saying.
Nah, not just for pipe. Got the same bottom and rails in a Stewart 9'0 hydro hull.
Also similar to the Waldon Mini Magic 7'6 I ride and that thing leaves some brand name long fish twins I have ridden for dead. Absolutely rocks.
The 949 comp is a bit deeper double but should behave very nice in most waves apart from maybe complete mush.
Should go good, especially on East Coat points and juicy beachies.