Select to expand quotepumpjockey02 said..
Okay here are some interesting comments I can relay over my 10 years of bodyboarding, 12 years of surfing and 3 years of stand up. The local scene even at manly is not nearly as heavy as back in the 90's. North narrabeen, Newport, Little Avalon, The wedge, they all had the hardcore surfboard riders. But still there were good spots like mona vale where anyone could go.
Manly is a super packed wave and has way too many surfers and due to south american, japanese, overseas riders wanting to live in this area, it has become packed with intermediate to good surfers. This pisses off the locals the most. Not only are they seeing more guys in the line up but these guys are good.
Secondly as to the surfing over supping debate just laugh at any surfer who tries to approach this topic with you. As someone who has been lucky to surf in the line ups with many pro riders, on road trips at foster and on Sydney Northern beaches, the greatest surfers are usually the biggest snakes, Kelly is terrible, Tom carroll back in the day, the worst, taking many, many waves of other surfers and now Tom Carroll rides a sup, the GOD of all agro surfers rides what they hate. :Its just Karma for all the crap surfers gave, bodyboarders and goat boaters over the last 20 years. Bring up Tom they cant say nothing, I prefer it over the Laird defence. Even worse is that Tom carroll still rips like back in his 20's. Check out his footage from North Avalon, during the big storms last year.
Also if you are worried about your rep in the lineup, you need to prepare to go out in the big stuff. If you have a person who constantly looks at you or calls out at you in the lineup, then the sweetest moment is when the local break is firing, you will see the local hardcores all watching, on the sand, sidewalk, corso (manly), as the bombs roll in. You just have to slowly pick up your board, showing no fear walk past the lot and paddle out. You will never and I mean never ever get any crap from the local hardcore again.
I was lucky enough to learn this from experience at my local break when it was pumping in September of 96. It was filthy good off shore. 8-10ft and no one out. With a mate form school on his new gun I paddled out and it was sketchy making it over the sets. All the local hotshots were sitting on the hill of the point. I was sitting off the take off point with my mate, and out paddles Mr Newcastle (Not MR) but Luke Egan dad, training for Hawaii, I got called into a set over 10 feet and just took the drop, got pounded and swept down the beach. :i got three waves in 2 hours that day, but never got any crap for after that by any locals.
You don't need to fight, look at them, answer back, just show them who has the biggest kahunas.
Brings back memories of epic surf sessions at Tuncurry break wall and super tubes, remember if it gets heavy at manly let the locals get angry, grab your SUP, head up to some uncrowded peaks, north of Newcastle.
I can still confirm that on any weekday, there still is a plethora of empty peaks up this way.
Just be good to people and steer clear of negativity.
Pumpjockey.
You hit the nail right on the head.
As a veteran of the Northern beaches and now living on the Central Coast I agree on all your points and reckon you have the right attitude.
Well said!
It should be the last word on this topic.
Full stop.
Um. Apart from this one.
Select to expand quotepumpjockey02 said..
Okay here are some interesting comments I can relay over my 10 years of bodyboarding, 12 years of surfing and 3 years of stand up. The local scene even at manly is not nearly as heavy as back in the 90's. North narrabeen, Newport, Little Avalon, The wedge, they all had the hardcore surfboard riders. But still there were good spots like mona vale where anyone could go.
Manly is a super packed wave and has way too many surfers and due to south american, japanese, overseas riders wanting to live in this area, it has become packed with intermediate to good surfers. This pisses off the locals the most. Not only are they seeing more guys in the line up but these guys are good.
Secondly as to the surfing over supping debate just laugh at any surfer who tries to approach this topic with you. As someone who has been lucky to surf in the line ups with many pro riders, on road trips at foster and on Sydney Northern beaches, the greatest surfers are usually the biggest snakes, Kelly is terrible, Tom carroll back in the day, the worst, taking many, many waves of other surfers and now Tom Carroll rides a sup, the GOD of all agro surfers rides what they hate. :Its just Karma for all the crap surfers gave, bodyboarders and goat boaters over the last 20 years. Bring up Tom they cant say nothing, I prefer it over the Laird defence. Even worse is that Tom carroll still rips like back in his 20's. Check out his footage from North Avalon, during the big storms last year.
Also if you are worried about your rep in the lineup, you need to prepare to go out in the big stuff. If you have a person who constantly looks at you or calls out at you in the lineup, then the sweetest moment is when the local break is firing, you will see the local hardcores all watching, on the sand, sidewalk, corso (manly), as the bombs roll in. You just have to slowly pick up your board, showing no fear walk past the lot and paddle out. You will never and I mean never ever get any crap from the local hardcore again.
I was lucky enough to learn this from experience at my local break when it was pumping in September of 96. It was filthy good off shore. 8-10ft and no one out. With a mate form school on his new gun I paddled out and it was sketchy making it over the sets. All the local hotshots were sitting on the hill of the point. I was sitting off the take off point with my mate, and out paddles Mr Newcastle (Not MR) but Luke Egan dad, training for Hawaii, I got called into a set over 10 feet and just took the drop, got pounded and swept down the beach. :i got three waves in 2 hours that day, but never got any crap for after that by any locals.
You don't need to fight, look at them, answer back, just show them who has the biggest kahunas.
Brings back memories of epic surf sessions at Tuncurry break wall and super tubes, remember if it gets heavy at manly let the locals get angry, grab your SUP, head up to some uncrowded peaks, north of Newcastle.
I can still confirm that on any weekday, there still is a plethora of empty peaks up this way.
Just be good to people and steer clear of negativity.
PJ2 - you have well and truely nailed it:-)
When it's big - the big tough locals at Manly can only be seen sipping their soy caramel lattes sitting on the benches talking sh1t while some of us are out there shredding.
Select to expand quoteSmash1 said..pumpjockey02 said..
Okay here are some interesting comments I can relay over my 10 years of bodyboarding, 12 years of surfing and 3 years of stand up. The local scene even at manly is not nearly as heavy as back in the 90's. North narrabeen, Newport, Little Avalon, The wedge, they all had the hardcore surfboard riders. But still there were good spots like mona vale where anyone could go.
Manly is a super packed wave and has way too many surfers and due to south american, japanese, overseas riders wanting to live in this area, it has become packed with intermediate to good surfers. This pisses off the locals the most. Not only are they seeing more guys in the line up but these guys are good.
Secondly as to the surfing over supping debate just laugh at any surfer who tries to approach this topic with you. As someone who has been lucky to surf in the line ups with many pro riders, on road trips at foster and on Sydney Northern beaches, the greatest surfers are usually the biggest snakes, Kelly is terrible, Tom carroll back in the day, the worst, taking many, many waves of other surfers and now Tom Carroll rides a sup, the GOD of all agro surfers rides what they hate. :Its just Karma for all the crap surfers gave, bodyboarders and goat boaters over the last 20 years. Bring up Tom they cant say nothing, I prefer it over the Laird defence. Even worse is that Tom carroll still rips like back in his 20's. Check out his footage from North Avalon, during the big storms last year.
Also if you are worried about your rep in the lineup, you need to prepare to go out in the big stuff. If you have a person who constantly looks at you or calls out at you in the lineup, then the sweetest moment is when the local break is firing, you will see the local hardcores all watching, on the sand, sidewalk, corso (manly), as the bombs roll in. You just have to slowly pick up your board, showing no fear walk past the lot and paddle out. You will never and I mean never ever get any crap from the local hardcore again.
I was lucky enough to learn this from experience at my local break when it was pumping in September of 96. It was filthy good off shore. 8-10ft and no one out. With a mate form school on his new gun I paddled out and it was sketchy making it over the sets. All the local hotshots were sitting on the hill of the point. I was sitting off the take off point with my mate, and out paddles Mr Newcastle (Not MR) but Luke Egan dad, training for Hawaii, I got called into a set over 10 feet and just took the drop, got pounded and swept down the beach. :i got three waves in 2 hours that day, but never got any crap for after that by any locals.
You don't need to fight, look at them, answer back, just show them who has the biggest kahunas.
Brings back memories of epic surf sessions at Tuncurry break wall and super tubes, remember if it gets heavy at manly let the locals get angry, grab your SUP, head up to some uncrowded peaks, north of Newcastle.
I can still confirm that on any weekday, there still is a plethora of empty peaks up this way.
Just be good to people and steer clear of negativity.
PJ2 - you have well and truely nailed it:-)
When it's big - the big tough locals at Manly can only be seen sipping their soy caramel lattes sitting on the benches talking sh1t while some of us are out there shredding.
Yep nailed it 
heros 
When it's big you don't get the issues you do when it's under 6ft. Under 6.0 the crowds are much thicker therefore much more of a problem, over 6.0 crowds thin and generally the problem disappears.
The more user friendly the waves are the less user friendly the line up becomes
The more crowded surfing is becoming the less fun it's going to be
Bring on wave pools
Select to expand quoteDARTH said..Smash1 said..pumpjockey02 said..
Okay here are some interesting comments I can relay over my 10 years of bodyboarding, 12 years of surfing and 3 years of stand up. The local scene even at manly is not nearly as heavy as back in the 90's. North narrabeen, Newport, Little Avalon, The wedge, they all had the hardcore surfboard riders. But still there were good spots like mona vale where anyone could go.
Manly is a super packed wave and has way too many surfers and due to south american, japanese, overseas riders wanting to live in this area, it has become packed with intermediate to good surfers. This pisses off the locals the most. Not only are they seeing more guys in the line up but these guys are good.
Secondly as to the surfing over supping debate just laugh at any surfer who tries to approach this topic with you. As someone who has been lucky to surf in the line ups with many pro riders, on road trips at foster and on Sydney Northern beaches, the greatest surfers are usually the biggest snakes, Kelly is terrible, Tom carroll back in the day, the worst, taking many, many waves of other surfers and now Tom Carroll rides a sup, the GOD of all agro surfers rides what they hate. :Its just Karma for all the crap surfers gave, bodyboarders and goat boaters over the last 20 years. Bring up Tom they cant say nothing, I prefer it over the Laird defence. Even worse is that Tom carroll still rips like back in his 20's. Check out his footage from North Avalon, during the big storms last year.
Also if you are worried about your rep in the lineup, you need to prepare to go out in the big stuff. If you have a person who constantly looks at you or calls out at you in the lineup, then the sweetest moment is when the local break is firing, you will see the local hardcores all watching, on the sand, sidewalk, corso (manly), as the bombs roll in. You just have to slowly pick up your board, showing no fear walk past the lot and paddle out. You will never and I mean never ever get any crap from the local hardcore again.
I was lucky enough to learn this from experience at my local break when it was pumping in September of 96. It was filthy good off shore. 8-10ft and no one out. With a mate form school on his new gun I paddled out and it was sketchy making it over the sets. All the local hotshots were sitting on the hill of the point. I was sitting off the take off point with my mate, and out paddles Mr Newcastle (Not MR) but Luke Egan dad, training for Hawaii, I got called into a set over 10 feet and just took the drop, got pounded and swept down the beach. :i got three waves in 2 hours that day, but never got any crap for after that by any locals.
You don't need to fight, look at them, answer back, just show them who has the biggest kahunas.
Brings back memories of epic surf sessions at Tuncurry break wall and super tubes, remember if it gets heavy at manly let the locals get angry, grab your SUP, head up to some uncrowded peaks, north of Newcastle.
I can still confirm that on any weekday, there still is a plethora of empty peaks up this way.
Just be good to people and steer clear of negativity.
PJ2 - you have well and truely nailed it:-)
When it's big - the big tough locals at Manly can only be seen sipping their soy caramel lattes sitting on the benches talking sh1t while some of us are out there shredding.
Yep nailed it heros
When it's big you don't get the issues you do when it's under 6ft. Under 6.0 the crowds are much thicker therefore much more of a problem, over 6.0 crowds thin and generally the problem disappears.
Yawn
Select to expand quotebobajob said..DARTH said..Smash1 said..pumpjockey02 said..
Okay here are some interesting comments I can relay over my 10 years of bodyboarding, 12 years of surfing and 3 years of stand up. The local scene even at manly is not nearly as heavy as back in the 90's. North narrabeen, Newport, Little Avalon, The wedge, they all had the hardcore surfboard riders. But still there were good spots like mona vale where anyone could go.
Manly is a super packed wave and has way too many surfers and due to south american, japanese, overseas riders wanting to live in this area, it has become packed with intermediate to good surfers. This pisses off the locals the most. Not only are they seeing more guys in the line up but these guys are good.
Secondly as to the surfing over supping debate just laugh at any surfer who tries to approach this topic with you. As someone who has been lucky to surf in the line ups with many pro riders, on road trips at foster and on Sydney Northern beaches, the greatest surfers are usually the biggest snakes, Kelly is terrible, Tom carroll back in the day, the worst, taking many, many waves of other surfers and now Tom Carroll rides a sup, the GOD of all agro surfers rides what they hate. :Its just Karma for all the crap surfers gave, bodyboarders and goat boaters over the last 20 years. Bring up Tom they cant say nothing, I prefer it over the Laird defence. Even worse is that Tom carroll still rips like back in his 20's. Check out his footage from North Avalon, during the big storms last year.
Also if you are worried about your rep in the lineup, you need to prepare to go out in the big stuff. If you have a person who constantly looks at you or calls out at you in the lineup, then the sweetest moment is when the local break is firing, you will see the local hardcores all watching, on the sand, sidewalk, corso (manly), as the bombs roll in. You just have to slowly pick up your board, showing no fear walk past the lot and paddle out. You will never and I mean never ever get any crap from the local hardcore again.
I was lucky enough to learn this from experience at my local break when it was pumping in September of 96. It was filthy good off shore. 8-10ft and no one out. With a mate form school on his new gun I paddled out and it was sketchy making it over the sets. All the local hotshots were sitting on the hill of the point. I was sitting off the take off point with my mate, and out paddles Mr Newcastle (Not MR) but Luke Egan dad, training for Hawaii, I got called into a set over 10 feet and just took the drop, got pounded and swept down the beach. :i got three waves in 2 hours that day, but never got any crap for after that by any locals.
You don't need to fight, look at them, answer back, just show them who has the biggest kahunas.
Brings back memories of epic surf sessions at Tuncurry break wall and super tubes, remember if it gets heavy at manly let the locals get angry, grab your SUP, head up to some uncrowded peaks, north of Newcastle.
I can still confirm that on any weekday, there still is a plethora of empty peaks up this way.
Just be good to people and steer clear of negativity.
PJ2 - you have well and truely nailed it:-)
When it's big - the big tough locals at Manly can only be seen sipping their soy caramel lattes sitting on the benches talking sh1t while some of us are out there shredding.
Yep nailed it heros
When it's big you don't get the issues you do when it's under 6ft. Under 6.0 the crowds are much thicker therefore much more of a problem, over 6.0 crowds thin and generally the problem disappears.
Yawn
Time for bed is it
