Seems to me that the SUP vs shortboard thing is irrelevant. It's more that arseholes are just, well, arseholes.
Shortboarder giving SUPs stinkeye - arsehole
SUP hogging all the waves - arsehole
Anybody hogging all the waves - arsehole
Out of control surfer - arsehole
Repeatedly dropping in - aresehole
The board is just a tool to express that arseholism. A bigger board or a SUP just serves to amplify your natural abilities, including the ability to be an arsehole.
Select to expand quoteHumanCartoon said..chrispy said..
a farkwit on a foil nearly took my mate out at the alley...another 10 ft and my mate would be in half...thats what happens...
so he passed by your mate by a clear board length or more?
Are you the farkwit that was riding it? Because if you need a explanation on this you truly have been taken by the gods of stupid
The bloke could not control it...he stacked...10 ft is not much when someone os out of control and kooks it on a human sushi cutter ...why why why
Ok I have the solution, Sup surf Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday
Prone and all other water craft surf Monday, all right they can have Thursday as well
Select to expand quoteMacaha said..micksmith said..Macaha said..micksmith said..MickPC said..supgman said..
Wow I can't believe what I'm reading. So someone is saying that I should ride a shorty because it will be better suited to a certain wave type or crowd. What a croc, that is like saying that you should buy a SUP and ditch your shorty for the same reason. I rode a shorty for 35 years before switching to a SUP 4 years ago and then I had an epiphany, I actually prefer riding a short SUP. What a revelation. I say ride what gives you stoke but as always give respect to receive it and know the correct etiquette no matter the craft.
but still don't understand why you would ditch shortboards or longboards in favour of a SUP unless you are physically disabled in some way. The added volume to stand & paddle is detrimental to performance as soon as you start riding a wave. It is the aspects prior to catching a wave that are beneficial to SUP riding.
How ridiculous, so a longboard performs as a short board, I don't think so.
MickPC but you cant do those ridiculous dish pan turns on a shortboard or longboard.
Just not trying hard enough
No mate,it didn't take much to bait you 
I believe it is you that has taken the bait, come in spinner.
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Ok I have the solution, Sup surf Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday
Prone and all other water craft surf Monday, all right they can have Thursday as well
No you have it wrong again
How about this,ban surf sup'ing in QLD,NSW and that will work perfect for you
Select to expand quoteMacaha said..micksmith said..
Ok I have the solution, Sup surf Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday
Prone and all other water craft surf Monday, all right they can have Thursday as well
No you have it wrong again
How about this,ban surf sup'ing in QLD,NSW and that will work perfect for you
Sorry no can do, frequently visit some old friends and they often want me to give them sup surf lessons, you may know some of them, mark Richards, terry mckenna, peter McCabe just to name a few
But am happy to relinquish NT and yes ok queen land
Hello, it's the knob back again.
well well well, I'm so glad that our prone surfing brothers from different mothers have joined in on this thread to provide us physically deformed with the guidance and direction that we have all needed. I feel like a weight has been lifted from me and I am now free.....
Us SUPers can now be real watermen and stick to what SUPing was really invented for - flat days or just maybe a near flat day with a 6" wave.
Gee, one of our brothers has been "charged" down by a SUP. Goodness me - how terrible. And to think that he has never been charged down by one of the many hopeless and reckless short boarders or Mal riders, like the rest of us have. Eyes closed paddling like a one legged duck with no idea what is to their left, their right or directly in front of them. I'm shedding a tear or 2.
go off and catch waves that the prone surfers don't want - sure, not an issue. Stop SUPing and go back to surfing, sure, if you say so.
nah - not for me - I'll stick with shredding, carving and living the dream. See you in the line up
And to think that I managed to write all of that without using a rude word or expression - it wasn't easy;-)
I think ignorance is present here in many factors.
learners that get out there, and dont realise they are right in the way, and then they say on the forums man im having so much fun and people are yelling at me! ignorance
learner surfers prob get away with it more as you dont get as hurt as you do with a sup impaling you...
If you want to start a sport, and specifically do it at a crowded beach or surf spot learn the rules, watch others and follow.
This being said, plenty of bad practice happening in places like Trigg point. same guys get all the sets, snaking, dropping in, learners, kids, mals, "so called locals" yelling abuse etc. even if you do the right thing, you WILL still get the stink eye on a sup there. more ignorance, that being said you go out on a busy day on a large sup and you are being dangerous and ignorant.
Go to somewhere like yallingup main break, do the right thing and surf like a beast and you get respect. thats why i like that place. respect where respect is due. If i am out there i will hurt myself to withstand my board getting in someones way. its what you do out there, its called etticate.
Then there is mettams where some guyys i have seen there for 3-4 years still drop in, still snake, still ditch their board, still ignore calls for wanting a wave for yourself when you have waited for it and in the right spot. So passionate they are there every day in the dark even thru winter, yet so ignorant to learn rules and general etticate in teh surf and grow.
then there is some shortboarders that just think sup is stupid and for retards. if they only knew how difficult it was to stand on a small, low volume sup , to paddle into a wave and surf on one, to learn to surf using paddle with correct technique AND if only they knew the benefits of gaining early on the wave, extra speed and use of paddle to improve wave manouvers. there is more ignorance.
that being said i have a lot of respect for good surfers. especially those that see everyone that is equal.
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I wonder what is going to happen when people start foiling at some of these breaks!
a farkwit on a foil nearly took my mate out at the alley last swell we had . im sure somebody knows that arrogant ****
another 10 ft and my mate would be in half...thats what happens...
Yeh a little too keen
There are 2 stand ups now and 3 short board foils regularly at The Alley
Not keen at all on them myself
The big fella is a lifegaurd and well known prone paddler the other is a well known surfer shaper
Good luck convincing them to stay away haha
Had a great surf at Yal's a few weeks ago calling in SUP's & other peeps to share the wave with me coz it was small for that spot. Had this one wave where something burst out of the wave beside me. I thought it was the SUP guys board springing out, but it was a dolphin about 2 foot away from me at head height bursting out of a head n 1/2 wave...special moment
Select to expand quotechrispy said..HumanCartoon said..chrispy said..
a farkwit on a foil nearly took my mate out at the alley...another 10 ft and my mate would be in half...thats what happens...
so he passed by your mate by a clear board length or more?
Are you the farkwit that was riding it? Because if you need a explanation on this you truly have been taken by the gods of stupid
The bloke could not control it...he stacked...10 ft is not much when someone os out of control and kooks it on a human sushi cutter ...why why why
He is a cartoon 
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Had a great surf at Yal's a few weeks ago calling in SUP's & other peeps to share the wave with me coz it was small for that spot. Had this one wave where something burst out of the wave beside me. I thought it was the SUP guys board springing out, but it was a dolphin about 2 foot away from me at head height bursting out of a head n 1/2 wave...special moment
Did the dolphin cop some abuse for dropping in and not showing respect for prone surfers? Maybe the dolphin will make some comments in this thread and be a good waterman and offer up a humble apology?
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Had a great surf at Yal's a few weeks ago calling in SUP's & other peeps to share the wave with me coz it was small for that spot. Had this one wave where something burst out of the wave beside me. I thought it was the SUP guys board springing out, but it was a dolphin about 2 foot away from me at head height bursting out of a head n 1/2 wave...special moment
Did the dolphin cop some abuse for dropping in and not showing respect for prone surfers? Maybe the dolphin will make some comments in this thread and be a good waterman and offer up a humble apology?
Pretty rare for me to need to say anything to someone dropping in, most of the time I've called them in to share the wave. My local is a small version of Yal's, fat with a big open shoulder...I get on fine with the SUP's at my local, don't stink eye or ignore greetings.
I suggest you take another look at my posts with a less combative attitude to discover the clear & present message behind them
Your post before this did not go unnoticed, I did get a chuckle out of it...cheers
Oh yeah & I should say it goes both ways. Anyone who limits themselves to only riding shortboards, focussing on one type of surf craft is also missing out...But then again its better for me in the long run if they do
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but still don't understand why you would ditch shortboards or longboards in favour of a SUP
Some reasons I found:
- high volume and width adds power. It better taps the wave power, it is like getting a huge engine on a bike or car: the bike/car becomes less nimble because of the weight. I guess it is specially enjoyable if you already sailboarded in waves and are addicted to mastering the power.
- the added visibility of standing up is addictive, I find that I enjoy a lot more being "out there" this way, being more aware f my surroundings
- the technical challenge in mastering the paddle technique and a big volume in waves is addictive if you like solving problems. I guess there is also the "new sport" effect where gear and technique are discovered as you go.
- waves become enjoyable on a shortboard few days per year, and when they do... you are then not alone
Select to expand quotecolas said..MickPC said..
but still don't understand why you would ditch shortboards or longboards in favour of a SUP
Some reasons I found:
- high volume and width adds power. It better taps the wave power, it is like getting a huge engine on a bike or car: the bike/car becomes less nimble because of the weight. I guess it is specially enjoyable if you already sailboarded in waves and are addicted to mastering the power.
- the added visibility of standing up is addictive, I find that I enjoy a lot more being "out there" this way, being more aware f my surroundings
- the technical challenge in mastering the paddle technique and a big volume in waves is addictive if you like solving problems. I guess there is also the "new sport" effect where gear and technique are discovered as you go.
- waves become enjoyable on a shortboard few days per year, and when they do... you are then not alone
Yeah I windsurf too, my 8'10 SUP doubles as a wind surfer. Awesome board for a newby windsurfer like myself, width for stability & volume so I don't have to do water starts...great board for someone new to the sport, but not for the advanced rider or windsurfer chasing waves.
From a surfing point of view, width aids glide in flat spots, but not speed in waves without fat spots & less hold in steep wave faces.
SUP Boards have definitely improved over the years for sure. Not to the point where you could have a one board quiver versatility & imagine trying to travel with 2 or 3 SUP's LOL...its hard enough taking a 9'4 & a couple of shortboards to Bali (never again) haha
Cheers for the explanation of what gets you stoked about them mate...I'll concede some people's situations are best for SUP's. I'm speaking from my pov where its often windy & variable surf condtions where you would miss out on surfing days if you had to limit yourself to just one surf craft type & surf spot.
Select to expand quoteMickPC said..Smash1 said..MickPC said..
Had a great surf at Yal's a few weeks ago calling in SUP's & other peeps to share the wave with me coz it was small for that spot. Had this one wave where something burst out of the wave beside me. I thought it was the SUP guys board springing out, but it was a dolphin about 2 foot away from me at head height bursting out of a head n 1/2 wave...special moment
Did the dolphin cop some abuse for dropping in and not showing respect for prone surfers? Maybe the dolphin will make some comments in this thread and be a good waterman and offer up a humble apology?
Pretty rare for me to need to say anything to someone dropping in, most of the time I've called them in to share the wave. My local is a small version of Yal's, fat with a big open shoulder...I get on fine with the SUP's at my local, don't stink eye or ignore greetings.
I suggest you take another look at my posts with a less combative attitude to discover the clear & present message behind them
Your post before this did not go unnoticed, I did get a chuckle out of it...cheers
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Hello, it's the knob back again.
well well well, I'm so glad that our prone surfing brothers from different mothers have joined in on this thread to provide us physically deformed with the guidance and direction that we have all needed. I feel like a weight has been lifted from me and I am now free.....
Us SUPers can now be real watermen and stick to what SUPing was really invented for - flat days or just maybe a near flat day with a 6" wave.
Gee, one of our brothers has been "charged" down by a SUP. Goodness me - how terrible. And to think that he has never been charged down by one of the many hopeless and reckless short boarders or Mal riders, like the rest of us have. Eyes closed paddling like a one legged duck with no idea what is to their left, their right or directly in front of them. I'm shedding a tear or 2.
go off and catch waves that the prone surfers don't want - sure, not an issue. Stop SUPing and go back to surfing, sure, if you say so.
nah - not for me - I'll stick with shredding, carving and living the dream. See you in the line up
haha well i take it all back. Just follow smash and his fark you all attitude. Should have SUPs bannned within a few years max I reckon
Select to expand quoteBara said..Smash1 said..
Hello, it's the knob back again.
well well well, I'm so glad that our prone surfing brothers from different mothers have joined in on this thread to provide us physically deformed with the guidance and direction that we have all needed. I feel like a weight has been lifted from me and I am now free.....
Us SUPers can now be real watermen and stick to what SUPing was really invented for - flat days or just maybe a near flat day with a 6" wave.
Gee, one of our brothers has been "charged" down by a SUP. Goodness me - how terrible. And to think that he has never been charged down by one of the many hopeless and reckless short boarders or Mal riders, like the rest of us have. Eyes closed paddling like a one legged duck with no idea what is to their left, their right or directly in front of them. I'm shedding a tear or 2.
go off and catch waves that the prone surfers don't want - sure, not an issue. Stop SUPing and go back to surfing, sure, if you say so.
nah - not for me - I'll stick with shredding, carving and living the dream. See you in the line up
haha well i take it all back. Just follow smash and his fark you all attitude. Should have SUPs bannned within a few years max I reckon
Nah they'll sort him out in the car park at some point.
In WA at the moment there are a few threads running on FB about the same issue and I could feel the tension on the water last night. It's a shame people use the word "HATE" so openly within a public arena, I HATE terrorists not other water users, I class other water users as friends, yes all of them. Anyways I surf, sup, kite even used to windsurf years ago so see all angles of the argument. Too be honest water sports are getting more popular with more people on the water, fact, we can't change that and won't be able to influence the future. If I SUP I get dropped in by longboarders, shortboarders, other SUP's. If I surf I get dropped in by longboarders, shortboarders, other SUP's see where this is going. I don't shout and scream like a four year old retard. If the rider is reckless and endangering other water users I will have a quiet word, often they don't even realise what they have done and are quite apologetic, sometimes they ignore me ! Things will get worse and with the introduction of foil surfboards and SUP's to the line-up I guess there will be a new target to "HATE". These boys will be picking up waves far outside and have priority, I am sure you won't want to drop in on one of those floating guillotines.
Ezekiel 25:17. "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you."
You just gotta love Pulp Fiction...
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In WA at the moment there are a few threads running on FB about the same issue and I could feel the tension on the water last night. It's a shame people use the word "HATE" so openly within a public arena, I HATE terrorists not other water users, I class other water users as friends, yes all of them. Anyways I surf, sup, kite even used to windsurf years ago so see all angles of the argument. Too be honest water sports are getting more popular with more people on the water, fact, we can't change that and won't be able to influence the future. If I SUP I get dropped in by longboarders, shortboarders, other SUP's. If I surf I get dropped in by longboarders, shortboarders, other SUP's see where this is going. I don't shout and scream like a four year old retard. If the rider is reckless and endangering other water users I will have a quiet word, often they don't even realise what they have done and are quite apologetic, sometimes they ignore me ! Things will get worse and with the introduction of foil surfboards and SUP's to the line-up I guess there will be a new target to "HATE". These boys will be picking up waves far outside and have priority, I am sure you won't want to drop in on one of those floating guillotines.
It always amazes me how apparently sane men completely lose their ** over a second rate wave and want to fight for ownership. Likewise I am also saddened by the fact that something as beautiful and natural as surfing has to be poisoned by the worst traits of human beings. Does surfing bring out the best or worst in us? All the tribal, earn respect crap is just like religion. A human construct designed to enable people to gain exclusive control over others. I always thought surfing was about freedom, joy and self expression. Not being forced to subscribe to some surfers religious rules. The only basis for the regulation of sups is safety.
Maybe an inferiority complex "an unrealistic feeling of general inadequacy caused by actual or supposed inferiority in one sphere, sometimes marked by aggressive behaviour in compensation" and that's why there always taking a peak at the SUP forum
Imoutthere said..
There's a thread over on the SUP forum that may interest a few here.
It's easy to see why when SUP is clearly superior.
"Kai Lenny laughs when I ask him about this debate. "I've had this conversation with a lot people," he says. Lenny looks at it like this: prone surfers don't realize how effective of a tool a SUP can be. Like Hamilton, Lenny is a genuine waterman. He excels at surfing and at SUP, and has won championships for his SUP surfing and long-distance SUP races, too. To watch him surf Jaws is a masterclass in riding big waves-regardless of board type."When you're already standing up, you can take off on waves much later, you can really stall and put yourself in more critical positions," he says. "When it's windy and surfers get spray in their face, you're above all that. When you have a paddle in your hand, it acts like a crutch. If you hit chop and you're going to fall, you can put the paddle in the water and catch yourself. And you can give yourself one more stroke to catch the wave or use it to pivot the board around the paddle."Lenny says being up high also lets him see waves materialising further out, allowing him to get into position earlier. "When people see me paddle toward the horizon, they immediately start following now," he says.
That should set the cat amongst the pigeons
