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Created by Lobes > 9 months ago, 2 Jul 2010
Lobes
885 posts
2 Jul 2010 12:53PM
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This looks pretty amazing:





from http://nahskwell.blogspot.com/2010/06/join-next-step.html

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
2 Jul 2010 3:07PM
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How long should I cut my paddle shaft now?

loco4olas
NSW, 1525 posts
2 Jul 2010 3:37PM
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But why?

standupper
387 posts
2 Jul 2010 1:37PM
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I reckon combine this with the Corban side fin wings and you could get some serious air!

DavidJohn
VIC, 17569 posts
2 Jul 2010 3:57PM
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That's gotta be hard work.. Is that Scotty?

DJ

CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
2 Jul 2010 4:04PM
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He must have been towed by jet ski first. No way you could paddle onto a small wave like that and get it to lift.

I'm betting there's a Jet Ski just out of the shot.

Legion
WA, 2222 posts
2 Jul 2010 3:39PM
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I'd say photoshop. Shadows are all wrong and I agree with CMC it's not going to be possible to be up on the foil at paddling speeds.

LSD
VIC, 763 posts
2 Jul 2010 6:39PM
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CMC said...

He must have been towed by jet ski first. No way you could paddle onto a small wave like that and get it to lift.

I'm betting there's a Jet Ski just out of the shot.


I think you would win that bet CMC.....its either photoshop or a tow in.
Takes a fair bit of horse power getting a foil to fly.....not a great amount of speed, they still fly around 10kph
Once flying the power needed to sustain is minimal. Also foils being very sensitive to ride, the lopsided sup paddling stroke would make control very difficult.






The only paddle powered foil I know of is a Flyak..check it out on utube....the guys getting these craft flying are very strong paddlers



high as a kite
SA, 1312 posts
2 Jul 2010 7:47PM
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Hey Dean, have you tried it with a kite?

LSD
VIC, 763 posts
2 Jul 2010 10:41PM
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high as a kite said...

Hey Dean, have you tried it with a kite?


Yes....with Naish X4's...(stuck accelerator & no brakes)
todays kites are more appropriate....once flying you can dump the power....

nice waves today.....




doc jacobs
12 posts
2 Jul 2010 8:54PM
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DavidJohn said...

That's gotta be hard work.. Is that Scotty?

DJ


DJ,
I know perfectly the guy, he is named Bruno Andre, french surfer/kite/wind, designer of the Nah Skwell SUP brand.
I saw him surfing with the foil, just using his paddle...Very beautiful glide

DavidJohn
VIC, 17569 posts
3 Jul 2010 11:23AM
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Thanks doc.. Great effort for Bruno doing it first.. and beating Laird to do it..

I wonder if this will inspire Laird into giving it a crack.. I'm guessing that he'd only use the paddle until it lifts.

DJ

colas
5364 posts
5 Jul 2010 2:44PM
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The video is really impressive...

CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
5 Jul 2010 5:12PM
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CRIKEY!

That's amazing. I stand corrected, it is possible.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
5 Jul 2010 3:35PM
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CMC said...

CRIKEY!

That's amazing. I stand corrected, it is possible.


Wouldnt the foil just act like a big fin (with a lot of drag) untill it got up to planning speed? Sorry cant see video @ work!!

teatrea
QLD, 4177 posts
5 Jul 2010 5:56PM
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Who would have thought , next we will probably see a downwind foil.Amazing

Sparx
VIC, 734 posts
5 Jul 2010 7:05PM
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Can anyone else hear the cogs whirring in Dean's [LSDs] brain right about now? Anyone like to take bets on when we see one of these units gliding PRK?
Cheers
Sparx

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
5 Jul 2010 5:21PM
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teatrea said...

Who would have thought , next we will probably see a downwind foil.Amazing


That would work quiet well I would have thought

teatrea
QLD, 4177 posts
5 Jul 2010 7:40PM
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Yeah probably , doesent look like much fun though , i think id rather keep the connection with the wave.

AA
NSW, 2167 posts
5 Jul 2010 8:40PM
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loco4olas said...

But why?


Matt that is exactly what i said the first time I saw someone on an SUP!

It has to have big potential in big rolling, cresting ocean swells

LSD
VIC, 763 posts
5 Jul 2010 10:11PM
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Sparx said...

Can anyone else hear the cogs whirring in Dean's [LSDs] brain right about now? Anyone like to take bets on when we see one of these units gliding PRK?
Cheers
Sparx


Well......I am happy to be wrong about that one....

Your right Sparx......the cogs are whirring.......I have bits of foils laying around the shed here, just need a shaft, shape up a tail & bolt the unit on to a suitable board.......you want to go first or shall I?


(I bet Laird & the boys are are looking at each other & saying "why haven't we tried that?)

laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
5 Jul 2010 10:44PM
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AA said...

loco4olas said...

But why?


Matt that is exactly what i said the first time I saw someone on an SUP!

It has to have big potential in big rolling, cresting ocean swells


wow. i agree. if he can get it foil just catching a wave, any decent dw er with a couple of links and speed would not be a problem. sometimes it dam hard just to keep up with the board. dw foot straps anyone!!!!!
cheers

LSD
VIC, 763 posts
5 Jul 2010 10:57PM
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teatrea said...

Yeah probably , doesent look like much fun though , i think id rather keep the connection with the wave.


Yes I agree, the connection with the wave is surfing...thats what we do.

With foiling, it's a feeling like flying, it's literaly is a form of aviation in a very narrow band of water, you don't feel the surface, but rather what a dolphin feels when it rides a wave from below, it's a very powerfull lifting force even on quite small waves.
One of the first things you notice when foiling is the lack of spray when you carve a turn, the "G" force from the turn is there....but silence & no spray....it's fun after years of bashing around the place on the surface chop sending buckets...it takes a while to get used to.
Certainly a challenge
Anyone interested in having a go?

SurfeeChick
VIC, 113 posts
5 Jul 2010 11:39PM
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Hey Dean,

I would love to have a go if you make one.

Kristi

LSD
VIC, 763 posts
5 Jul 2010 11:58PM
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SurfeeChick said...

Hey Dean,

I would love to have a go if you make one.

Kristi


Ok Kristi....I will let you know when it's put together, will be a bit of fun.

log man
VIC, 8289 posts
6 Jul 2010 12:09AM
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That looks insane, Hey Dean looked like you had a good surf a the point today. Sat and watched (and warmed up ) at the lookout after a go on the surfclub beach. looks like the "clown board" is going really well.

laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
6 Jul 2010 12:17AM
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LSD said...

teatrea said...

Yeah probably , doesent look like much fun though , i think id rather keep the connection with the wave.


Yes I agree, the connection with the wave is surfing...thats what we do.

With foiling, it's a feeling like flying, it's literaly is a form of aviation in a very narrow band of water, you don't feel the surface, but rather what a dolphin feels when it rides a wave from below, it's a very powerfull lifting force even on quite small waves.
One of the first things you notice when foiling is the lack of spray when you carve a turn, the "G" force from the turn is there....but silence & no spray....it's fun after years of bashing around the place on the surface chop sending buckets...it takes a while to get used to.
Certainly a challenge
Anyone interested in having a go?


hi, there times on dw runs where you aren't actually running down swell, you are moving with it or the feeling of being pushed or pulled along. the low pressure thingy that a few paddlers have talked about on the breeze it feels surreal. is a similar thing to what the dolphins doing?
sorry for digressing
cheers

AA
NSW, 2167 posts
6 Jul 2010 6:13AM
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LSD said...

teatrea said...

Yeah probably , doesent look like much fun though , i think id rather keep the connection with the wave.


Yes I agree, the connection with the wave is surfing...thats what we do.

With foiling, it's a feeling like flying, it's literaly is a form of aviation in a very narrow band of water, you don't feel the surface, but rather what a dolphin feels when it rides a wave from below, it's a very powerfull lifting force even on quite small waves.
One of the first things you notice when foiling is the lack of spray when you carve a turn, the "G" force from the turn is there....but silence & no spray....it's fun after years of bashing around the place on the surface chop sending buckets...it takes a while to get used to.
Certainly a challenge
Anyone interested in having a go?


Oh yeah! This is like powder and piste! How many days is it to choppy to enjoy surfing?
It looks very much like the feeling of snowboarding on powder!

teatrea
QLD, 4177 posts
6 Jul 2010 8:36AM
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O.k i better hold off on that new downwindboard and get me a foil racer.With a down wind board would you have two foils on at the back one at the front?

laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
6 Jul 2010 9:36AM
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teatrea said...

O.k i better hold off on that new downwindboard and get me a foil racer.With a down wind board would you have two foils on at the back one at the front?


andrew, at training this morning we were talking about it- very exciting development. in the open class as it stands looking at the new rules- why not. one thing with that guy surfing it- he's not attached to the board and it was mentioned if he comes off the wrong way the foil could cut him in two
cheers
ps it sure be fun to foil past a top paddler, but i'm dreaming

Sparx
VIC, 734 posts
6 Jul 2010 11:27AM
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LSD said...

Sparx said...

Can anyone else hear the cogs whirring in Dean's [LSDs] brain right about now? Anyone like to take bets on when we see one of these units gliding PRK?
Cheers
Sparx


Well......I am happy to be wrong about that one....

Your right Sparx......the cogs are whirring.......I have bits of foils laying around the shed here, just need a shaft, shape up a tail & bolt the unit on to a suitable board.......you want to go first or shall I?


(I bet Laird & the boys are are looking at each other & saying "why haven't we tried that?)


Might sit this one out thanks Dean. I like to watch!!!
Given that I have no kiting, sailing, windsurfing or wakeboarding experience, it all seems a bit gyro gearloose to me. Certainly not applicable to the waves I like to surf. However I would agree that the potential when applied to certain sub disciplines of the sport, could be staggering. It may also just be a flash in the pan!
Good Luck
Cheers
Sparx



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