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New Cabrhina Fusion H-Series

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Created by Piros > 9 months ago, 3 Feb 2022
foilstate
129 posts
20 Mar 2022 4:59PM
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@toppleover @Cygnify @Piros Thanks for the report!

frenchfoiler
505 posts
20 Mar 2022 5:23PM
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Stiffness, I guess you get used to it but the down part is, it is hard to go back and forth between a stiff mast to a flexy mast, too much difference.

Piros
QLD, 7211 posts
21 Mar 2022 7:42AM
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Here's the H1000 in full flight yesterday on a downwinder. Just shows how forgiving this thing is when I'm riding it on the surface .








toppleover
QLD, 2067 posts
23 Mar 2022 4:40PM
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Had the demo H-Series 1200 for about a week, changing back to my KJ1210 each day in tiny gutless waves.
1st session was a disaster, nosedived every wave but once I repositioned the foil all the way forward it really lit it up the 1200 has great pump/glide & turns well also, with nice even foot pressure. Stall speed was great, just a super forgiving wing - overall very impressive.
Had a quick go on a mates H1000 and I couldn't pump it very well but he was having no issues on fresh legs - he also found the H1200 easier to pump.
Things I wasn't that stoked on:
1. It's all M6 except the board hardwear is M8.
2. Mast flex - only noticeable when comparing to other brands.
3. Wing covers seem cheapish but do the job.

If I was looking to change foils atm, I think this could be the one for me but the 1210 is still too hard to give up.

Big thanks to Sunshine Coast Boardsports for the demo.

Piros
QLD, 7211 posts
23 Mar 2022 7:17PM
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Yeah I started with the foil at the back and now almost front of box . Yes 1200 more glide in the pump for sure but I actually pump faster on the 1000. M6 not so bad on this rig because everything seats so well and they are really quality bolts , but I do miss using the rattle gun on my M8 Axis rig. Agree with the covers pretty average and again miss the Axis zip covers. Re the mast flex yes it's there for sure but it doesn't affect the surfing in fact it seems to help it , the flex is down low near the wing. I ran the Ali mast and it felt sluggish and killed the looseness. Nice of Pauly to set up a demo of a foil that's so hard to get ATM . While we are on that the Cabrhina & Takuma factories in China are shut down due to Covid , so that's where the Kujira 1095's are and the Cabrhina rigs , all ready to go but can't be shipped.

Velocicraptor
813 posts
24 Mar 2022 6:11AM
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Anyone pair the H Series wing with the fusion carbon fuselage? Is it the same length as the H Series fuselage? Do other stabilizers work with the Cab fuselage (KD Maui for example)? I'm interested in the H Series 800, but would like to use some of my other stabilizers, and not be limited to the Cab stab. Buying the carbon fuse is also much cheaper than the fuse + stab combo. Thanks

gorgesailor
632 posts
24 Mar 2022 7:10AM
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Piros said..
Yeah I started with the foil at the back and now almost front of box . Yes 1200 more glide in the pump for sure but I actually pump faster on the 1000. M6 not so bad on this rig because everything seats so well and they are really quality bolts , but I do miss using the rattle gun on my M8 Axis rig. Agree with the covers pretty average and again miss the Axis zip covers. Re the mast flex yes it's there for sure but it doesn't affect the surfing in fact it seems to help it , the flex is down low near the wing. I ran the Ali mast and it felt sluggish and killed the looseness. Nice of Pauly to set up a demo of a foil that's so hard to get ATM . While we are on that the Cabrhina & Takuma factories in China are shut down due to Covid , so that's where the Kujira 1095's are and the Cabrhina rigs , all ready to go but can't be shipped.


Happiness is a full warehouse... plenty of 1095's in the US now!




foilstate
129 posts
24 Mar 2022 7:14AM
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Velocicraptor said..
Anyone pair the H Series wing with the fusion carbon fuselage? Is it the same length as the H Series fuselage? Do other stabilizers work with the Cab fuselage (KD Maui for example)? I'm interested in the H Series 800, but would like to use some of my other stabilizers, and not be limited to the Cab stab. Buying the carbon fuse is also much cheaper than the fuse + stab combo. Thanks


Was wondering the same, on the cabrinha stand alone carbon fuse, what is the stab 2 hole spacing? One can always re-drill existing stabs of course.. or change the fuse hole spacing.

toppleover
QLD, 2067 posts
24 Mar 2022 10:52AM
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foilstate said..

Velocicraptor said..
Anyone pair the H Series wing with the fusion carbon fuselage? Is it the same length as the H Series fuselage? Do other stabilizers work with the Cab fuselage (KD Maui for example)? I'm interested in the H Series 800, but would like to use some of my other stabilizers, and not be limited to the Cab stab. Buying the carbon fuse is also much cheaper than the fuse + stab combo. Thanks



Was wondering the same, on the cabrinha stand alone carbon fuse, what is the stab 2 hole spacing? One can always re-drill existing stabs of course.. or change the fuse hole spacing.


Note the Cab stabilizer mounts on top, so as far as I understand the bottom mount stabs won't be compatible as they will be upside down.

Piros
QLD, 7211 posts
24 Mar 2022 6:50PM
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Wow how's that warehouse full of Takumas , foil porn . The Cab H series you can get an Ali or Carbon fuse mount section to run other wings , it's a 30mm hole centre but is top mount . KD Maui is on the job right now .

foilstate
129 posts
24 Mar 2022 6:12PM
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Piros said..
Wow how's that warehouse full of Takumas , foil porn . The Cab H series you can get an Ali or Carbon fuse mount section to run other wings , it's a 30mm hole centre but is top mount . KD Maui is on the job right now .


Awesome! I am guessing a regular kd13 tail mounted on top and setup to the right angle with shims would also work no?

Alysum
NSW, 1030 posts
24 Mar 2022 11:34PM
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Piros said..
Wow how's that warehouse full of Takumas , foil porn . The Cab H series you can get an Ali or Carbon fuse mount section to run other wings , it's a 30mm hole centre but is top mount . KD Maui is on the job right now .



That's great! Hopefully more affordable than the current carbon fuse/stab at a ridiculous price tag.

Piros
QLD, 7211 posts
25 Mar 2022 5:21AM
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foilstate said..
Awesome! I am guessing a regular kd13 tail mounted on top and setup to the right angle with shims would also work no?



Yeah just pack with washers . Not sure of the ally fuse section cost mine came with the Alloy mast but it's part of the X series which is all compatible with the new carbon H - Series so all pre existing Cabrhina lower aspect X gear fits including tails & front wings .





frenchfoiler
505 posts
30 Mar 2022 2:57PM
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Any other reviews ?

I'm really wondering if this is the One ????

What I'm looking for is the glide/speed/turning of the Kujira but with the stall speed and forgiveness of the Unifoil hyper 170.

toppleover
QLD, 2067 posts
30 Mar 2022 7:04PM
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frenchfoiler said..
Any other reviews ?

I'm really wondering if this is the One ????

What I'm looking for is the glide/speed/turning of the Kujira but with the stall speed and forgiveness of the Unifoil hyper 170.


Guessing your referring to the KJ1095?

What size H-series are you hoping could be the one, 1200 or 1000??

AnyBoard
NSW, 371 posts
30 Mar 2022 9:32PM
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frenchfoiler said..
Any other reviews ?

I'm really wondering if this is the One ????

What I'm looking for is the glide/speed/turning of the Kujira but with the stall speed and forgiveness of the Unifoil hyper 170.



If you mean for surfing Greg I would like to know if you have surfed the gofoil rs1150.
i would expect it is the best compromise of pump and turn for most

mattllew
74 posts
30 Mar 2022 9:39PM
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frenchfoiler said..
Any other reviews ?

I'm really wondering if this is the One ????

What I'm looking for is the glide/speed/turning of the Kujira but with the stall speed and forgiveness of the Unifoil hyper 170.


have you tried putting a unifoil race tail on kujira 1095? mine is cut to 13.5" and stall speed is liveable... not as low as unifoil 190. I dont have the 170.

Piros
QLD, 7211 posts
1 Apr 2022 9:13PM
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Here is a chop shop video on the Cabrinha Ali fuse section to make it suit under-mount tail wings, like the Kujiras , Uni's and the new Cloud 9 which was pretty dam sick . It really loosens up the 1000 way more surfy but not quite as stable . I won't cut the carbon I like it too much but the adaptor really opens up the door to different styles of riding.

NordRoi
668 posts
2 Apr 2022 8:05AM
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To understand, it's not the fact that the tail
sit down that it made it looser, it's the tail you had like kujira and it's another way to enjoy more stabs? Nice work btw!!

Piros
QLD, 7211 posts
17 Apr 2022 8:17PM
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Nord I've never been a fan of top tails but it's more it suits stock tails .

Finally got my hands on the 650. Adam Bennetts has the only one in the country so I grabbed it off him for a few days . I'd never prone this unless it was really big but man this thing is a killer tow wing . It has such amazing glide for such a small wing , can still wave connect. I'm 87 kg the other guy in the video is 105kg . Comparing it to the Axis 799 & Kujira 750 it's just so much smoother through broken water and high-speed turn transitions plus it's a very balanced ride like it's 1000 big brother . No drop out and very gradual lift on the start. I rode the 80cm Carbon mast and you could definetly feel the mast flex towing back out , not a real issue BUT on the wave, if just felt so smoooth and the transitions from turn to turn you could feel the foil load then release , it actually felt really good . Hard to explain but that tapered curved carbon mast works incredibly well. I've run the Cabrhina H series foils on their super still Alu mast and they feel terrible . I wasn't too sure if id get a 650 but after today it's a given.











Foily
NSW, 5 posts
19 Apr 2022 1:42PM
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Has anyone ridden the cab 800 and the lift 120? If so how would you compare them?

Piros
QLD, 7211 posts
20 Apr 2022 8:57AM
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Yes and they are both very similar in all aspects but I'd say the 120 had more glide .

BradWestAus
WA, 18 posts
20 Apr 2022 3:03PM
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Piros said..
Here is a chop shop video on the Cabrinha Ali fuse section to make it suit under-mount tail wings, like the Kujiras , Uni's and the new Cloud 9 which was pretty dam sick . It really loosens up the 1000 way more surfy but not quite as stable . I won't cut the carbon I like it too much but the adaptor really opens up the door to different styles of riding.



Now that the options for using different tail wings has opened up, with Piros' Mad Max modding, and Foil Parts releasing a Cabrinha tail adapter. I am interested to learn more about the best tails to pair with the H1000.

I know the Cabrinha HA tail is schmick (goes so good downwind), but what are some other setups that people have tried?

Thanks!

Piros
QLD, 7211 posts
20 Apr 2022 7:38PM
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I've been chatting to Keahi he sent me the file to cut down the Cab tail , he said it really loosens up the 1000 & 800 and feels good on the 650 as well . Adam Bennett's has cut the Cab but still prefers the 158 Kujira tail , he also uses that on his Lift 90 . I use the 178 Kujira Tail ( I can't get a 158) and I use the new Cloud 9 tail as well which is probably my number one pick
ATM.


BradWestAus
WA, 18 posts
21 Apr 2022 7:17PM
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Piros said..
I've been chatting to Keahi he sent me the file to cut down the Cab tail , he said it really loosens up the 1000 & 800 and feels good on the 650 as well . Adam Bennett's has cut the Cab but still prefers the 158 Kujira tail , he also uses that on his Lift 90 . I use the 178 Kujira Tail ( I can't get a 158) and I use the new Cloud 9 tail as well which is probably my number one pick
ATM.



Never a shortage of stuff to try ay Rob ; )The FS 13.5" wasn't on the radar at all, so that's added some more to think about. Just have to find out whether the Foil Parts fuse will fit the 45mm space holes out of the box.
The Kujira 178 and now 158 must be real winners. They regularly get a big wrap.

foilstate
129 posts
26 Apr 2022 10:01PM
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frenchfoiler said..
Any other reviews ?

I'm really wondering if this is the One ????

What I'm looking for is the glide/speed/turning of the Kujira but with the stall speed and forgiveness of the Unifoil hyper 170.


Kujira 1095 vs Cabrinha H1000, comparing outlines. Span 96cm vs 90cm, chord almost the same, thickness 18mm vs 15mm. Cabrinha has no sharp edges, and construction looks really (really) strong, almost like the signature fuse. From the looks of it, the stall speed would be higher than 1095, but to be tested, will report back after a few sessions (waiting on the tail and mast on their way).
Big fan of the 1095, doing everything on it these days, proning from ankle to chest high, winging and downwind. The glide and turning are mind boggling. Only drawback would be the construction (wing starts showing fractures, while never jumped or used with straps), and the span is a bit too much when the waves get powerful. Don't really mind the stall speed, kinda got used to it.










Piros
QLD, 7211 posts
27 Apr 2022 10:17AM
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The Cab 1000 has an AR 8.1 ( 800 is 9.9 wow) , the Kujira 1095 is 8.3 so pretty similar . The Cab has an amazingly low stall speed really interested to see how it compares to the Kujira , keep us posted Foilstate lucky lad to have both foils..

frenchfoiler
505 posts
27 Apr 2022 2:50PM
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foilstate said..

frenchfoiler said..
Any other reviews ?

I'm really wondering if this is the One ????

What I'm looking for is the glide/speed/turning of the Kujira but with the stall speed and forgiveness of the Unifoil hyper 170.



Kujira 1095 vs Cabrinha H1000, comparing outlines. Span 96cm vs 90cm, chord almost the same, thickness 18mm vs 15mm. Cabrinha has no sharp edges, and construction looks really (really) strong, almost like the signature fuse. From the looks of it, the stall speed would be higher than 1095, but to be tested, will report back after a few sessions (waiting on the tail and mast on their way).
Big fan of the 1095, doing everything on it these days, proning from ankle to chest high, winging and downwind. The glide and turning are mind boggling. Only drawback would be the construction (wing starts showing fractures, while never jumped or used with straps), and the span is a bit too much when the waves get powerful. Don't really mind the stall speed, kinda got used to it.











Can't wait for that report !

Velocicraptor
813 posts
27 Apr 2022 11:14PM
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Just got the foilparts fuse, but unfortunately won't have the H800 to try it with for another few weeks. Pretty simple and straightforward aluminum affair. Appears to be well built and engineered. The multiple tail positions are nice. Ive got a Kujira 178, a very chopped 220, and KD 13.5 to try it out with and will report back.

foilstate
129 posts
7 May 2022 6:34PM
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First feels.. the h1000 is a high aspect smooth version of the game changer 1260, with roughly the speed range of the kujira 1210.

The low end is comparable to the kujira 1210 and has some front foot punch, the top speed is neutral foot pressure to diving forward, but still in the process of fine tuning tails.. for now on the foilparts tail adapter, 178 tail, 0.5 degree front bolt (mast 30cm from tail).
The turning is very smooth, not super quick in roll but very trustworthy, you can push it really hard. By trusting and pushing hard you end up doing turns maybe as good as the 1095 where you can feel on eggs sometimes.
One of the best breaching ability I have experienced, foam hits are also no problem.
Pumping is a bit more energy consuming than the 1210 I would say but not far off, I think pumping/glide wise the kujira airfoil is unbeatable in efficiency.

Disclaimer, the mast I am using is a monster of performance (racing custom high modulus carbon, ultra rigid, 13mm thick), probably not the same feel as the cabrinha carbon as there is almost no flex in the rig. I had to cut it to ~80cm, and then fine tune the base plate and tail shimming in the water, so it took a while.

Will report with more time on it, as well as the h800 which on the first try felt more like the 1095, faster and more efficient, but higher stall speed, naturally.






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