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Beginner kiting buddies Botany Bay

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Created by Tootharoo > 9 months ago, 23 Sep 2013
anwargoku
NSW, 29 posts
28 Nov 2013 12:36PM
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ALERT !!! FYI

Residents along the Georges River are being advised to avoid all contact with the river for at least another three days as crews continue to clean up after a major spill of sewage last weekend.
NSW Health extended an alert in place since the weekend for people and their pets to avoid the river from Macquarie Fields all the way downstream to Botany Bay. Swimming, sailing, canoeing and fishing are also to be avoided.


Read more: www.smh.com.au/environment/sustainability/georges-river-health-alert-extended-until-the-weekend-20131127-2y8x9.html

Warehouse13
NSW, 185 posts
28 Nov 2013 2:09PM
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anwargoku said..

About my last post:
I though you were talking about friday arvo.
Anyway If you're going friday arvo too, give me a sign


I was thinking of possibly heading down Friday arvo but the wind is more off shore than anything and not looking good. Next week however is starting to look very promising

Warehouse13
NSW, 185 posts
28 Nov 2013 2:15PM
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anwargoku said..

ALERT !!! FYI

Residents along the Georges River are being advised to avoid all contact with the river for at least another three days as crews continue to clean up after a major spill of sewage last weekend.
NSW Health extended an alert in place since the weekend for people and their pets to avoid the river from Macquarie Fields all the way downstream to Botany Bay. Swimming, sailing, canoeing and fishing are also to be avoided.


Read more: www.smh.com.au/environment/sustainability/georges-river-health-alert-extended-until-the-weekend-20131127-2y8x9.html


Don't think you need to worry too much about this. They found "slight reading" of contamination at Chipping Norton which is still along the very narrow stretch of river and there is more than 4 times the length of river to Botany, not to mention the river opens up massively well before Botany. The levels of contamination wouldn't be anything over what the crappy sydney water is on a regular basis anyway.

Just my thoughts

Warehouse13
NSW, 185 posts
29 Nov 2013 7:32AM
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Well just booked myself in for my next lesson through KP with Alessandro on Monday at 1300-1500.
I will be picking my gear up at the same time (finally) and considering what the wind is looking like for Monday arvo I reckon I am going to be hanging around until I can no longer see to get as much time on the water as I can with my new gear.
Looks pretty good for Tuesday and Wednesday as well so I reckon I am going to be making a few trips down there next week to get a bunch of kite time in.

Hopefully I can finally meet up with a few of my fellow BB newbies while I'm there

anwargoku
NSW, 29 posts
29 Nov 2013 8:33AM
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Who is kitting this afternoon!?
And is dolls point a good spot for southern wind?

Warehouse13
NSW, 185 posts
29 Nov 2013 9:14AM
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Can't make it this arvo unfortunately.

Tootharoo
NSW, 33 posts
29 Nov 2013 10:39AM
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Warehouse - say hi to Alessandro for me. He taught me everything I know which is very close to nothing. You can kite these days to 7.30pm at least so hopefully you will have a long productive session on Monday.

Anwar, I'm running a tight ship today - work vs getting home to relieve babysitter. If the wind goes more east by early arvo (say 3pm) I will try to make it down. If it keeps the westerly in it I will give it a miss.

I got down there yesterday late afternoon. Very good wind (and clearly much better weather than today) although by the end was getting too strong for me on my 9m. Also there were probably about 30 kiters down there so a bit busy close to shore but fine once you got out a bit. I do think stronger winds are easier for beginners as you don't have to fly the kite as much.

Will give u a PM or text if I'm going to head down. Should know by 2-ish.

cheers

Tootharoo
NSW, 33 posts
29 Nov 2013 2:10PM
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Even I am not going to go out in this weather. If anyone else goes this arvo, let us know how you fare.

If wind turns easterly and weather improves might do sparrows on Saturday or late session.

cheers

Warehouse13
NSW, 185 posts
29 Nov 2013 2:18PM
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Tootharoo said..

Warehouse - say hi to Alessandro for me. He taught me everything I know which is very close to nothing.



I hope that isn't a reflection of how good an instructor he is :-/ . My last lesson was with Sean who I thought was really good, got a lot out of the lesson with him.

Spoke with Alessandro just before and we have moved my lesson to 5pm-7pm due to winds (or lack there of). Looking like better winds in the arvo to get a good lesson in, so decided better off moving it.

anwargoku
NSW, 29 posts
29 Nov 2013 6:40PM
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Went finally to 1st groyne. A little bit hard on sotherny but great session. My first kite session in sydney :)

Warehouse13
NSW, 185 posts
29 Nov 2013 9:26PM
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Awesome mate

Tootharoo
NSW, 33 posts
1 Dec 2013 10:29AM
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Yes Alessandro is good. So was Sean like you said and I think they work well for switching between those first and second lessons like they do. Kite power must have a monopoly on lessons although I was down there yesterday (quite good conditions) and Jeep (or at least a shop that's affiliated with jeep) were doing a few lessons.

Wind forecast looks like its changed for Monday warehouse - u may need to change to Wednesday - although these afternoon breezes seem to be becoming more common so may still work. Good luck! I must have done a 30 minute self rescue yesterday so hopefully you may cover that if you haven't already.

Cheers.

Warehouse13
NSW, 185 posts
2 Dec 2013 6:40AM
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Not sure they have a monopoly so much as they are just the best around
There are a few others I know of, but none that get the reviews and as much overly positive feedback as KP do.

Yeah we've already changed from midday Monday to 5pm due to forecast lack of wind, but I reckon that might change again this morning. Hopefully can change it to Wednesday as it is looking a lot more promising.

Self rescue is one thing I really want to cover as my goal is to be self sufficient before heading to Yamba for first 2 weeks of Jan. I don't expect to be up and riding perfectly, but as long as I have the basics to work on and can get my self out of trouble when I ditch the kite etc then I will be happy. 2 weeks of nothing more then R&R and arvo kite sessions should certainly help my learning curve

As a side note, does anyone have any idea where seabreeze get their weather data from. It conflicts with both BOM and Elders, they both forecast much better (still not great, but better) winds this arvo compared to SB.

Elders reckon 29kmh at 3pm (approx 15-16knts)
www.eldersweather.com.au/local-forecast/nsw/sydney

BOM reckons arvo tending NE 20-30kmh (11-17knts)
www.bom.gov.au/nsw/forecasts/sydney.shtml

Yet seabreeze is saying no more than 5-10knts and thats only 10knts at 11pm

This is why I hate not leaving near the coast.

jms
NSW, 131 posts
2 Dec 2013 2:40PM
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The wind is looking good!

I'll be out this arvo/evening, so long as I get my work done. 11m CF kite, half blue half white with yellow ribs. Might try out Dolls and keep an eye out for Warehouse :)

Warehouse13
NSW, 185 posts
2 Dec 2013 4:08PM
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Yeah mate lesson is a go ahead from 5-7 but I will be heading to KP soon to pick up my new gear, should be there around 4ish depending on traffic.

I'll look put for you mate but I reckon you'll spot the uber noob with the shiny new gear floundering around before i spot you haha.

Tootharoo
NSW, 33 posts
2 Dec 2013 9:28PM
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On the weather forecasting no idea on how sea breeze does it. I think though inherently difficult to forecast more than a couple of days out. I always use BOM www.bom.gov.au/marine/wind.shtml?location=nsw-syd&tz=AEDT for next 3 days and in particular this map diagram where u can see the wind forecast for BB in 2 hr increments. I think generally they get the direction right but sometimes just not the speed or the timing.

How was the lesson? Did u catch up with JMS?

jms
NSW, 131 posts
2 Dec 2013 9:39PM
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We caught up at the end of the session. Warehouse got up on his board, congrats mate, fantastic progress! I was just body dragging, and kept ending up downwind. Obviously it was the tidal currents at Doll's point and not my lack of skill at all....

Warehouse13
NSW, 185 posts
3 Dec 2013 12:58AM
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Yeah lesson was great, stoked to get up albeit for a massive 3secs before I ate it lol. Was good to catch up with JMS after especially after I almost took him out with my kite, although I made up for it by eating a **** sand-wich when I got lazy about watching my kite while listening to Alessandro and next thing I know know I'm heading face first down the beach on my guts, que the QR. I am sure JMS enjoyed the spectacle hahaha

manlykiter
NSW, 66 posts
3 Dec 2013 11:06AM
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nice effort waterhouse! you must be pumped.

Im possibly heading out tonight if the wind picks up, anyone else going? Thinking 1st or second carpark

anwargoku
NSW, 29 posts
3 Dec 2013 11:19AM
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Hi Guys,

Anyone heading tomorrow afternoon to botany from the city.
I wont be having my car tomorrow and I was wondering if city(central station) is on someone's way and could pick me up.

Cheers,
Anwar

jms
NSW, 131 posts
3 Dec 2013 11:52AM
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The exciting bit was as I was body dragging downwind of Warehouse while his kite was in the water. I was cutting it too close and all of a sudden the wind picked his kite up and threatened to tangle us. I had to quickly yank my kite right across the wind window to avoid calamity, and then back again. Needless to say it gave me an exciting burst of speed!

Warehouse13
NSW, 185 posts
3 Dec 2013 12:20PM
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Yeah I saw that, I got slammed off the board, came up just in time to see a line get wrapped around the kite, hit the QR to swim back and then saw suddenly boost like a pro down wind, looked like you got a pretty good launch out of it

Side note - anyone here tried wake boarding for a bit of board control practise. I know the pull motion would be completely different but thought it might be worth a shot taking the TT to panthers or something to get a bit of a feel of control without having to worry about the kite. That's the one thing that really stood out yesterday, flying kite is good, but add the board and try to stand, there is soooooo much to think about at once. Massive brain overload.

Tootharoo
NSW, 33 posts
3 Dec 2013 2:55PM
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Warehouse - back in the day (i.e. 20 years ago) I wakeboarded. I was crap at it but it probably has helped because the boards are so similar to kiteboards. Having said that, like you point out, the pull is all different so I suspect it would be a waste of time to do wakeboarding because you'd spend all your time learning to get up differently and so you'd just have even more things to think about. In fact Alessandro said to me at my lesson "forget everything you did while wakeboarding".You have got me thinking though that the boots which are much more common on wakeboards would help me on kiteboards - maybe next season.

Anwar, I will probably head out tomorrow afternoon driving from work in the CBD. Unfortunately I'm on a tight schedule tomorrow so stopping by central won't work for me but could give u a lift from the CBD. Will look to leave CBD probably 3.30-4ish subject to the normal caveats (wind, work, etc) so PM me if you want a lift.

This arvo looks good but can't do it. Enjoy manlykiter.




Warehouse13
NSW, 185 posts
3 Dec 2013 3:10PM
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Yeah I have heard mixed ideas with wakeboarding. Might just stick with the kite at the moment, having to make time to get out for that as it is lol.

No chance of me making it out today either. All going well (read, I get a leave pass granted), I should be out tomorrow, got a few other friends coming down as well (intermediate to advanced riders though) and we are planning on hitting hollywoods at this stage but might end up at 1st carpark depending on wind/crowds etc.

manlykiter
NSW, 66 posts
3 Dec 2013 4:34PM
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Ive been to the panthers wakeboarding park, though not with the intention of gaining kitesurfing skills from it.

It would give you a feel for edging, and may help if you are learning technical tricks but I cant see it being of a great use as a beginner imo.

Theres a tasty 20 knots out there at the mo, finish work in 25 min! yeee ha

Schulerbible
NSW, 77 posts
3 Dec 2013 10:31PM
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Hi,

Somebody at Brighton beach tomorrow? I will be there at 3pm, probably the first beach. Wind looks promising hope it will be not too strong.

cheers
Tobias

Warehouse13
NSW, 185 posts
3 Dec 2013 10:46PM
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Mate, looking like I'll be there from around 3-4pm.

I'm looking at possibly heading to Hollywoods to start, depending on how busy and winds etc, might head to 1st carpark.

Look out for the guy with the black and white 11m Crazyfly floundering around trying to stand up haha

Schulerbible
NSW, 77 posts
4 Dec 2013 12:14AM
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11m uff .... would be way to big for me. I will bring my 8m storm kite (yellow/green/black Ozone)

cheers

Tootharoo
NSW, 33 posts
4 Dec 2013 1:25PM
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If wind reasonable we (Anwar and I) should be there around 4. Will look for you guys. Warehouse - you and me must be the only guys with crazyflight kites. I'm hoping we're early adopters of a brand that is going to take off as opposed to the only two guys crazy enough to buy their stuff.

Warehouse13
NSW, 185 posts
4 Dec 2013 2:58PM
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Hahaha yeah I'm crazy either way though lol. Pretty sure jms was flying a crazyfly as well :-)

Fyi I'm aiming to get to hollywoods aroundchalf 3-4 depending on traffic.



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