Ok, comparing it to the Evo was a bit of a stretch.....the basic outline can look vaguely similar if you have had a few beers.
Im getting a 5'0 to fill the gap untill firewire release the kite construction Evo
You can order the kite construction Evo from FireWire now. It's been available for a couple of months. Contact FireWire Australia direct
Hi Wicksy you sure you don't have the Vader mixed up with the Evo mate?
I just contacted FireWire direct & the kite Evo won't be ready till the end of the year at the earliest.
Just had my first session on the new 2016 Nugget CSC 5'3.
10 years Experience - 85kg - 10knotts - 11m Naish Pivot - STRAPLESS
I am a team rider for Windsurf N'Snow and usually just stick to riding my Naish skater, but the wind was pretty light and my skater just wasn't going to cut it. The wind was onshore at 10 knots average and about 2ft max on the sets. Within the first 1min of riding the nugget all i could think was "What a HOOOOOT this thing is". Its fast, loose and really rockets upwind in marginal conditions. The stability and control was impressive but expected, the extra width however made changing front foot positions a must in order to get the most out of the board. To me riding with foot straps would of compromised the boards performance significantly. The Nugget is in its element in light light winds and crumbly waves. It flys upwind without much effort and will happily glide through any lulls in the wind. On fat wave faces the board surfs great but get to close to the pocket and the width becomes a bit of an issue.
For a first directional board for a not so experienced surf kiter the nugget would be a worthwhile purchase., likewise for an experienced kiter looking for a light wind board. It really is just effortless fun in less than ideal conditions.
Windsurf N'snow in Collaroy NSW has a 5'3 CSC for demo if anyone is keen.
Ok, comparing it to the Evo was a bit of a stretch.....the basic outline can look vaguely similar if you have had a few beers.
Im getting a 5'0 to fill the gap untill firewire release the kite construction Evo
not a stretch mate, try comparing the whip and the vanguard
Ok, comparing it to the Evo was a bit of a stretch.....the basic outline can look vaguely similar if you have had a few beers.
Im getting a 5'0 to fill the gap untill firewire release the kite construction Evo
not a stretch mate, try comparing the whip and the vanguard
I bought a Vanguard after demoing the Whip........ but is'nt this this thread about the new Nugget
What is the retail price, I bet its a shocker - reflecting the AU$
I had the nugget csc out in 4 to 6 foot faces yesterday (20-25 knots) and my top speed going down the line was 43km per hour.... Quick little beasty.
Just out of interest how would the sizing of the Nuggets past and present go for a 105kgs rider, I currently have a North pro 6'2 which is amazing in high wind and decent waves but bad low end because of its rocker and gunny shape, I used to have a Wainman gambler 5'10" x20 which was a great size for me so I wonder if the current 5'3" or older 5'5" nuggets would be big enough ?
I am 100kg dry and I have the 5'5 nugget, the 5'3 csc nugget and few 6'1/6'2 boards.
It's the width and volume of the nugget and not the length that makes it work so well for us fuller figured individuals. So I will typically ride the nugget's from 10 to 25 knots and then the thinner longer boards after that.
Can anyone comment on how it compares to the 2014 or 2015 model? Low end and upwind the same, or actually better as stated by North? And how does it handle chop?
Hi Strekke,
The new 2016 CSC NUGGET is slightly different to the old 2015 NUGGET.
1st thing that is noticeably different is the shape. The 2015 uses a surfboard inspired full outline, were as the 2016 is all about compact.
2nd thing is that the lightwind ability is different. the 2015 rides very much like a fat surfboard, were as the the 2016 (for lightwind) gets up and going almost like a raceboard. It hums onto the plane and flys upwind, noticeably better.
3rd regardless of the above, the 2016 surfs really well. Its far looser then the 2015 and also fits in the pocket a little better. If you like flying down the line then the 2015 is still pretty good for this, but for a good allround, underpowered performance surf feel, then the 2016 is not bad.
Do yourself a favor and hit up your local dealer for a demo.
Its the only way to know.
Hi Strekke,
The new 2016 CSC NUGGET is slightly different to the old 2015 NUGGET.
1st thing that is noticeably different is the shape. The 2015 uses a surfboard inspired full outline, were as the 2016 is all about compact.
2nd thing is that the lightwind ability is different. the 2015 rides very much like a fat surfboard, were as the the 2016 (for lightwind) gets up and going almost like a raceboard. It hums onto the plane and flys upwind, noticeably better.
3rd regardless of the above, the 2016 surfs really well. Its far looser then the 2015 and also fits in the pocket a little better. If you like flying down the line then the 2015 is still pretty good for this, but for a good allround, underpowered performance surf feel, then the 2016 is not bad.
Do yourself a favor and hit up your local dealer for a demo.
Its the only way to know.
Thanks for the info! Can you elaborate on 2? I ride my SB flat and work the fins when I'm underpowered, but haven't ridden a raceboard before, so can't really relate to what you mean by the 2016 nugget riding like a raceboard. Or do you just mean that the 2015 nugget will get you going as if riding a larger surfboard flat, while the 2016 will get you going in the same winds as if you were on a full sized raceboard? AKA, if I understand correctly: if you want to gain as much low end as possible, the 2016 is the better choice?
Also, how does it handle chop?
Was planning on testing one for sure but not sure I will be able to have the opportunity to test 2015 and 2016 back to back on a truly light wind day, so that's why I'm trying to gather some info beforehand already!
Now that a few more weeks have passed - has anyone else ridden the new CSC nugget? How does it handle chop? And how does it turn?
Made a copy which goes as well if not better than the original. But I now tend to ride the BWS Drifter (another copy) in marginal conditions.
Nice work man! Not surprised it goes better, any stiff epoxy sandwich board is harsh to ride (imo).
p.s. BWS Drifter isn't a copy of North Nugget, they aren't even close. Not to mention egg boards like the Nugget have been around for many years previous, although I'm sure North will tell you they invented them in their book!
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p.p.s. Had to have a solid chuckle at people comparing a Tomo Evo to a North Nugget
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Made a copy which goes as well if not better than the original. But I now tend to ride the BWS Drifter (another copy) in marginal conditions.
Nice work man! Not surprised it goes better, any stiff epoxy sandwich board is harsh to ride (imo).
p.s. BWS Drifter isn't a copy of North Nugget, they aren't even close. Not to mention egg boards like the Nugget have been around for many years previous, although I'm sure North will tell you they invented them in their book!
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p.p.s. Had to have a solid chuckle at people comparing a Tomo Evo to a North Nugget
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+1. Stiff is no good.
Pretty sure he means he has a copy of a Drifter but. ^^^![]()
+1. Stiff is no good.
Pretty sure he means he has a copy of a Drifter but. ^^^
You could be right I think, thought it seemed a bit odd, although you could take it either way from how it's worded haha. The rest of what I said remains valid.
Now that a few more weeks have passed - has anyone else ridden the new CSC nugget? How does it handle chop? And how does it turn?
I was out yesterday in 3 to 4 foot waves yesterday at my local.
I think the 2014 Nugget with it's round nose handled the chop a little better when you edged hard but I think the new CSC version turns much better on the wave.
They both go upwind very very well.
I have left CSC Nugget as my strapless board and the convex deck with pads just stick to you feet in a very comfortable way. It pops over waves/whitewash really nicely.
At speed, in chop, going down the face of a wave, it does feel a little small for me (6'3") ....... but the turning is just sensational.
Does anyone have experience turning a nugget into to foil board? Seems like it's a decent base to work with if you don't mind drilling or cutting into it to install some mounting hardware for a mast.
Would you recommend the 5'3 or 5'0 CSC for a 75kg rider? I currently have the 5'2 TT and sometimes feel a little bit bigger would help in very marginal conditions.
hey leigh...does this mean you can use your nugget normally as well...without a foil? or is it just now a foil board? Excuse my ignorance.
Love my nugget which I purchased largely due to this thread. I've been out a handful of times on it and was wondering if there are any tips for going upwind. Everyone raves about it being an upwind machine but it doesn't seem to be working for me. I'm generally riding messy chop, riding strapless, doing carving turns and riding toeside rather than switching feet I seem to get plenty of speed and are edging. Maybe I'm riding overpowered due to the chop? I don't feel overpowered. When people are talking about it being an upwind machine is this in light wind when the chop is generally cleaner?
Hi Kaha, Nuggets go up wind great in light to moderate wind but can get harder to control in higher wind - whats your weight & also wind strength and size kite.
If really choppy, I usually slow down & use the fins rather than edging to get up wind (on any surfboard).
83kg - yesterday I was riding a 12m it was about 18 knots and went down to 15 knots.
Sound like I need to use the fins more rather than edging I guess you do this by turning the board rather than leaning on one edge.
Couple of options
you can edge - but too much ( or equal ) front foot pressure will point the board off the wind - often better in chop
slow down
Another way is to ride off the fins more - ie , flatten the board out , slightly less front foot pressure. - if it's choppy this can be a bit rougher but still works well
Here something I have being playing with in regards to a light wind surfboard. The picture is of my foil, but the tail on the old surfboard is the modification that seems to work well.
Grab any old surfboard, one with fcs plugs work well as you get a smoother rocker! I have done a board with fixed fins but the tail won't bend where the fins are. Remove the tail pad, probably the hardest bit, then cut with a grinder or wood saw through the top, down through the stringer to the bottom surface. Do this about 2 inches apart.
Tape a bit of 4x2 to the bottom so the rocker is now flat along the board, the cuts from the saw will open up, fill these with epoxy/ micro balloons.Allow epoxy to set, sand the top of the board, reglass the top in a layer of 6 oz and epoxy, refit tail pad. The rocker line won't be perfectly smooth but quite adequate for light wind performance.
Getting rid of the rocker really improves the light wind performance, the board really accelerates quickly and is great for jumps. Bit hairy when the wind gets up as with little rocker the board is bloody hard to slow down. I have been using this type of light wind board rather than an egg type board as the narrower tail has got less drag and a better top speed, they go upwind really well too. And cost, well bugger all.
Well thanks guys, reading this thread made me realise I needed a Nugget in the boot, so went and got a nice new 5'3" yesterday.
Cant wait to ride it. Looks ugly as, but super interesting.
Just have to wait for the wind to drop enough to use it!
It seems like the only reviews on the nug CSC are on this thread or in a German video (and I cannot speak German). I was only able to demo the nug TT but after reading this thread I just bought a 5' nug CSC. Can't wait till it arrives sometime this week. Hope it's as good as you all say!
Hey Colin
I was planning to do this exact thing, however wanted to be able to switch between foil and normal nugg. Ie a box with a blank when not using the foil.
Hi Strekke,
The new 2016 CSC NUGGET is slightly different to the old 2015 NUGGET.
1st thing that is noticeably different is the shape. The 2015 uses a surfboard inspired full outline, were as the 2016 is all about compact.
2nd thing is that the lightwind ability is different. the 2015 rides very much like a fat surfboard, were as the the 2016 (for lightwind) gets up and going almost like a raceboard. It hums onto the plane and flys upwind, noticeably better.
3rd regardless of the above, the 2016 surfs really well. Its far looser then the 2015 and also fits in the pocket a little better. If you like flying down the line then the 2015 is still pretty good for this, but for a good allround, underpowered performance surf feel, then the 2016 is not bad.
Do yourself a favor and hit up your local dealer for a demo.
Its the only way to know.
Thanks for the info! Can you elaborate on 2? I ride my SB flat and work the fins when I'm underpowered, but haven't ridden a raceboard before, so can't really relate to what you mean by the 2016 nugget riding like a raceboard. Or do you just mean that the 2015 nugget will get you going as if riding a larger surfboard flat, while the 2016 will get you going in the same winds as if you were on a full sized raceboard? AKA, if I understand correctly: if you want to gain as much low end as possible, the 2016 is the better choice?
Also, how does it handle chop?
Was planning on testing one for sure but not sure I will be able to have the opportunity to test 2015 and 2016 back to back on a truly light wind day, so that's why I'm trying to gather some info beforehand already!
Sorry Strekke,
Time got away from me.
How is the 5"0 CSC going?