Select to expand quoteIndependent said..
Thank you for your local "Japanese" (by your tag), I sincerely wish you "Good winds and safe kiting".
Honourable "Kamikuza" please let me respect your opinion and you wealth of knowledge and apologise for my ignorance by posting on a .com.au forum and not understanding that I may cause offence to our fellow forum contributors internationally.
Short comment, I would rather sort it out locally with someone than get stonewalled online. Please consider "JOBS IN AUSTRALIA FOR AUSTRALIANS"!!!!
By the way, "...To be blunt, balls to every point Independent brought up... service?...." next time your bladder S**ts' itself or line breaks or you're waiting on your waterproof smart phone for help from your favourite overseas online retailer in a different time zone whilst drifting into a Tsunami, think & breath......
No offense taken. I thought we were talking about our local shops, not your local shop? .au isn't local to me ;) while your experiences with locals may be good and satisfying, I can't say mine are. My overseas dealings, on the other hand? much better!
The last time? in fact, every time something's got tits up, I've had to rescue myself. Even had to pack up my own gear when I broke my wrist? humped back to the carpark (at the club we pay yearly fees to) and asked to borrow a phone cos I'd left my cell at home. They called the ambulance for me? thanks for the help!
Repairs *are* cheap though, which is good cos my gear always s**ts itself. Oh wait, no it doesn't :D
Select to expand quoteKamikuza said..Independent said..
Thank you for your local "Japanese" (by your tag), I sincerely wish you "Good winds and safe kiting".
Honourable "Kamikuza" please let me respect your opinion and you wealth of knowledge and apologise for my ignorance by posting on a .com.au forum and not understanding that I may cause offence to our fellow forum contributors internationally.
Short comment, I would rather sort it out locally with someone than get stonewalled online. Please consider "JOBS IN AUSTRALIA FOR AUSTRALIANS"!!!!
By the way, "...To be blunt, balls to every point Independent brought up... service?...." next time your bladder S**ts' itself or line breaks or you're waiting on your waterproof smart phone for help from your favourite overseas online retailer in a different time zone whilst drifting into a Tsunami, think & breath......
No offense taken. I thought we were talking about our local shops, not your local shop? .au isn't local to me ;) while your experiences with locals may be good and satisfying, I can't say mine are. My overseas dealings, on the other hand? much better!
The last time? in fact, every time something's got tits up, I've had to rescue myself. Even had to pack up my own gear when I broke my wrist? humped back to the carpark (at the club we pay yearly fees to) and asked to borrow a phone cos I'd left my cell at home. They called the ambulance for me? thanks for the help!
Repairs *are* cheap though, which is good cos my gear always s**ts itself. Oh wait, no it doesn't :D
Maybe you need to head back to nz for a better lifestyle! more kiting and friendlier people?!
For All North Fans!
2014 North stuff should come out already end of the August 2013 !
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Select to expand quoteMaybe you need to head back to nz for a better lifestyle! more kiting and friendlier people?!
Did once... then the earth started shaking and thing fells down again :( also, it means living with New Zealanders and I moved to Japan specifically to get away from them 
And... O RLY www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/General/Desperation/ 
Shop fronts - good community, looking after their customers, safety, in shop instructors... etc But I also think brands like switch that sell direct are good for more younger people getting into kiting. I ask younger riders all the time (when I see them..) cos kiteboarding is such an awesome sport for them to enjoy - Cost is THE reason they say there are not more younger riders. $700 for an 11m (no bar and lines) delivered for example is less likely to put them off than the quotes they get for a setup and lessons when they go to the shop the first time (eg 3k) - I do know shops try and help out younger riders some times which is cool though...
Gotta add those selling direct have as much moral responsibility as shopfronts to educate riders about their purchases and the consequences of not getting quality lessons...
Three pages for a blatant pimp.
Hook, line and sinker guys.
Those that buy online will continue to do so. Those who shop local get better karma.
How many times do we have to do this dance?
Select to expand quoteKamikuza said..Maybe you need to head back to nz for a better lifestyle! more kiting and friendlier people?!
Did once... then the earth started shaking and thing fells down again :( also, it means living with New Zealanders and I moved to Japan specifically to get away from them
And... O RLY www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/General/Desperation/
hehehe.... my form of desparation is 1 week without kiting!... ahhhh!. on the day in question it was blowing 20-30 most of the day.... but alas I had family commitments and turned up at the beach at 3 just for the wind to turn off!. ....
ps not many earthquakes in this part nz. only the ever present threat of an active volcano blowing up...... not as bad as japan with leaking radioactive nuclear waste!.
Select to expand quotewestozwind said..
Three pages for a blatant pimp.Hook, line and sinker guys.
Those that buy online will continue to do so. Those who shop local get better karma.
How many times do we have to do this dance?
MANY MANY times it appears all with the same result.
That said you are on the money, for some buying off the web is something they are comfortable with (either from overseas or brand direct from guys like Switch and a couple of others that have joined that format OR I think may be one), for others getting local support and buyng through a shop front is the only way they'll go. Different strokes I guess.
Not sure I agree on the karma side though
Select to expand quotehehehe.... my form of desparation is 1 week without kiting!... ahhhh!. on the day in question it was blowing 20-30 most of the day.... but alas I had family commitments and turned up at the beach at 3 just for the wind to turn off!. ....
ps not many earthquakes in this part nz. only the ever present threat of an active volcano blowing up...... not as bad as japan with leaking radioactive nuclear waste!.
The missus can lie quite convincingly... "Oh sorry he's sick" (wait for it...)
I'm from Christchurch. The day we went home for Xmas, the quakes started up again. Hell of a welcome!
Jeez, you're not a Dorklander are you? 
You'll get more of a dose flying to Japan than you will living 
The naki mate! Taranaki. certainly a glorious place if you want to kite in the waves.!
Yeah nah noice! One day, I might even explore my own country a bit more
In other news... this is also why I dislike locals.
"Can you get a price for me on XYZ?" turns into "Get me XYZ at any price" and now I find myself obliged to pay $250 for a line set. Wishing I'd just emailed someone 
Select to expand quotenugs said..cauncy said..
its a pretty simple question that still hasnt been answered, i was hoping a retailer or distributor could let us know why we pay so much for our gear, im not trying to put shops out of buisness by asking this, infact if prices arnt put on a level playing field as overseas then i think you local shops gonna struggle, so how can a local shop not buy his gear off a distributor what someone off the street can buy it for? to me it can only mean one thing the distributor is charging his shop too much for his kites making it impossible for him to compete, which means people will buy on the internet meaning your local shops gonna struggle, nugs the cab switchblade you mentioned ive found one complete shipped to your door without discount for $1348 inc all deductions and possible additions and that was list no special deals,kitepower the kite was a best 2013, i had a look at a special you had on a 7mtr edge 2012 for $ 1479 again found one for $1018 , also edge 10 2013 $2129 rrp os $1539 no deals by either,as for being un australian i find it pretty insulting to be charged say 500 more by a local shop than a complete stranger on the internet if you know what i mean, im a pom but im passionate about where i live, i ride ozone kites ,uk company and ride shinn boards uk company, and drink guiness, ok thats irish, so i still have a soft spot for uk companies,as for supporting my local ive bought 2 paddle boards 2 surfboards one wetty, 4 go pros, all in the last 12mths and would buy my kites off him and boards if he stocked them regardless of cost , as for rrp what the ****es the point of that if your gonna match an os price, personally if i went into a shop and they tried to charge me full price to then later drastically reduce it would make me feel like they tried to shaft me, and wouldnt get my buisness, eppo dont worry about people laying it on me dont see too many thumbs down, as for the youngsters issue i know personally of a half a dozen kids here would love to get into the sport and its cost thats the problem, a couple of us have helped them out, personally ive given away 2 kites, and sold 3 kites for $1000 when i got offered $2500 as a trade , also repaired a few at my cost to get them on the water, basically if our prices were inline with os then the wouldnt be an issue
Cauncy that's a big paragraph man....WOW!!!
Anyway the deductions that you speak of such as GST and import duty are not paid for by the shipper. They are paid by you the receiver of the goods. AUD$1,348 for a new 2013 Cabrinha Switchblade 12M complete with bar & lines without discount including all deductions and possible additions (like mentioned above) and delivered to your door is a big call.
I CALL YOU!!!! Prove it and I will buy you a case of your favourite beer.
unfortunatly im a bit of a beer purist and my favourite beer is from a belgian monks monastery, the dinnent-commune have brewed it the same way as they did in 1240, the do it in a brun and a blonde of which both satisfys my pallet, if you require the contact email me and ill send it to you, i wont and dont want you to put it on a open forum, if you think its wright for joe blogs off the street to walk into a kite dealer and tell him they are buying one kite cheaper than what he pays his distributor for 20 kites,( the reason for my unanswered question) this isnt bull as ive a mate that exsperiences it on a weekly basis, the beer above mentioned is one of the most exspensive cartons as an australian your likely to buy but if you shop around on the internet you might find it cheaper, cheers cauncy
Can't help myself . . .
Slingshot Space Pickle RRP $699
From my local Slingshot rep - $1,373.
Courier shipping a surfboard is about $300 . . . so WTF?!?!
