I currently ride a 12 dice In melbourne around the bay. Love the massive air you can get with the dice but I'm sure you can go bigger, I wanna try and get into the airstyle board off one footer tricks etc...
What's some sick kites with massive boost and hang time?
Dunno about north kites unless the 2015 bars are better than the 2014.
I'm leaning towards air rush but know nothin about them never ridden one?
What are some options?
Airush can boost well, have had good experience on lithium(2013) new model 2015 looks fun, go and speak to the guys at the zu for airush gear.
the edge has a great rep for going big, am not sure on the draft/pivot from naish but would be worth a demo, jessie riechman was going huge on the draft at king of the air.
for airstyle Toby (airstyle guy) seems to ride huge north kites, i think the juice is supposed to be on that tip (have not flown but reviews have been ok)
Try the new rebel more power more boost and safe as well The dice is agreat wave kite and when boosting will give you lots of drift but for shear hang time Rebel is the go
Yeah Ozone edge is a boost and glide machine. It will out boost and glide the dice with ease. But it doesn't hold a patch on the dice in the waves.
I'm working my way to an awesome quiver than will give me a 10m edge (already got it) and a 10m dice. So I can have boosting days and wave days in the 10m size.
If you want to get into Airstyle surely the North kite to get would have to be what Toby uses , not sure what it is myself , others might know . The bar would also have to have a micro hook or stopper . Some more Airstyle from Toby to get ya pumped
Does big boost = big glide? Or can you get a kite that will boost super high and just not glide much?
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If you want to get into Airstyle surely the North kite to get would have to be what Toby uses , not sure what it is myself , others might know . The bar would also have to have a micro hook or stopper . Some more Airstyle from Toby to get ya pumped
It's a 2011 north dyno 18m.
Select to expand quoteSibboV1 said...
Does big boost = big glide? Or can you get a kite that will boost super high and just not glide much?
Yep a C kite can boost big if u know wat ur doin but no glide
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Does big boost = big glide? Or can you get a kite that will boost super high and just not glide much?
No.
Big boost doesn't mean big glide. You can get high on many kites. particularly when its real windy. but gliding is another story.
High aspect kites are mastered of the glide. (long thin kites like the ozone edge)
Fast kites can get you high but not glide you well. eg C kites.
Well Im confused !! I thought Low aspect kites like the Griffin argo's and the F-one B3's didn't jump so high because they were low aspect - but gave a nice glide and soft landing ?? And that High aspect kite like some of the ozones (eg ?? ) took you to the moon but could be a bit more savage??
So as I now know that Im part of the great unknowing - what is the story ?? Oh for frontliners value ;-)
I have an edge, the airush version of the edge is better. Some guy has one down at the river, it seems to boost bigger. No joke, try one.
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That family seems really concerned with Tobys crash at the 39second mark
If that worries you best take up knitting 
Not sure what Lambie is talking about but
The Griffin argo's are a great kite for boosting !! Give me my 7m Argo 30knots + and I'm looking down on the car park at my local . Heaps of power fast turning and float .
But getting those really big boost does have a lot to do with good technique .
Select to expand quotefingerbone said...noodelsrominov said..
That family seems really concerned with Tobys crash at the 39second mark
If that worries you best take up knitting
Not a bad idea it's freezing in Melbourne.
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I currently ride a 12 dice In melbourne around the bay. Love the massive air you can get with the dice but I'm sure you can go bigger, I wanna try and get into the airstyle board off one footer tricks etc...
What's some sick kites with massive boost and hang time?
Dunno about north kites unless the 2015 bars are better than the 2014.
I'm leaning towards air rush but know nothin about them never ridden one?
What are some options?
if you want specific airtime, a profile like the edge, rebel, draft, nrg, etc will give you increased hangtime and decent boost, and importantly little bar input which youll want for described tricks , some c kites will go bigger than the edge but will require a fair bit of bar movement to produce the time reqd for tricks you describe, using your dice or any other decent jumping kite in its very upper limits will also give increased time, I find the with the edges beyond 11mts the boost diminishes still great hangtime but you lack the speed to redirect when taking off, which reduces height,its a trade off my biggest jumps have been on a 7mtr edge but needs a lot of movement overhead to get a second lift and comfortable landing, also the 2013 varial x 9mtr and my current hadlow id, a local goes huge on the switch nitro and the biggest jumps ive witnessed was a mate on a vegas 2010, 10mtr, but it was around 40knts
Let's not forget - Toby is riding an 18m kite in probably 20 knots on a small board...
Big wind, overpowered... that's how you go big. Technique, then gear. And very specific gear...
The edge has great hang time and is very smooth ,but if you want to start back rolling with your big airs I have found that the Vegas is much easier to feel where it is when you upside down In the air. The edge demands precise ,perfect movements to perform big airs with the roll where the Vegas is so much more fun and easy to control.I would say that the Vegas rips off the water harder ,but does not have the hangtime that the edge . I have the edges in the bigger size now as they are great for light wind ,but when it's nuking I will go for the Vegas as it has more dimensions for my style of free riding.I love doing big airs and want to try looping the kite this summer.The Vegas is also a clear winner in that department too.
Another kite I had a go on in 17 knots of wind last year was the core riot 9 m.I want to try this kite again in 25 knots .even at 17 knots I was impressed with its full jumping capabilitys and hang time in marginal conditions.
I have seen lots of kites boost huge and I have seen bandits ,catylists,rpm' s and many other kites.
At 30 knots I think you can boost huge on most kites if you have the right technique,but when it's marginal thats where a good boosting kite comes into play.
Good luck with your search!
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Well Im confused !! I thought Low aspect kites like the Griffin argo's and the F-one B3's didn't jump so high because they were low aspect - but gave a nice glide and soft landing ?? And that High aspect kite like some of the ozones (eg ?? ) took you to the moon but could be a bit more savage??
So as I now know that Im part of the great unknowing - what is the story ?? Oh for frontliners value ;-)
Low aspect kites power is more obvious and less reliant on aparent wind. So you can boost reasonable height with less board speed. They also can glide you not bad but you tend to drill down wind sooner. A low aspect kite will boost higher in choppy water when you can't build enough board speed.
High aspect kites are typically less powered static but more powereful once you have built board speed and apparent wind. Plus the high aspect kite gives you faster board speed.... therefore more apparent wind power. Then they are more powerful/m2. When sent properly they tend to fly you more cross wind than down wind. Because you have more power, speed, cross wind tragectory you go higher and glide for longer.
C kites are fast and can rip you off the water but they lack the projected area in the canopy to hold you up. Thus you also come down fast. But if you fly them well its pretty easy to redirect/loop them to a soft landing.
my airush razors get me huge air but the higher you go, the faster you drop. unless you loop it and wait for it to catch you on the way down
Select to expand quoteFrontliner said..
I currently ride a 12 dice In melbourne around the bay. Love the massive air you can get with the dice but I'm sure you can go bigger, I wanna try and get into the airstyle board off one footer tricks etc...
What's some sick kites with massive boost and hang time?
Dunno about north kites unless the 2015 bars are better than the 2014.
I'm leaning towards air rush but know nothin about them never ridden one?
What are some options?
3m trainer will get u good boost and hangtime
Thanks guys great feedback and advice..
Ok I don't think I'm gonna get the hang time with the type of kites I'm lookin at seems like the airstyle kind of tricks require massive kites. Just gonna stick to my 12m.
Still getting a new kite tho...
With the right technique with a basic sent jump what would boost higher than the dice?
I was lookin at the vegas? Don't really wanna go the rebel.
Ozone edge and the core riots? Rpms?
What's the air rush kite for massive boost?
2013 airush varial x, not the 2014 its a lot more c and much tamer for a heavier rider, not just a one trick kite like the edge, very nice kite, I was going to change to these but enjoyed the faster hadlow ids, some good reviews on kiteworld mag / gear/ review varialx 2013
Another kite that hasn't been mentioned on this thread yet is the Epic Screamer. Most reviews of this kite ive seen on Seabreeze and Kiteforum say it boosts massive, it can rip you off the water like a C kite and has the glide like an edge . Worth a look at , ill be trying one out next couple of weeks , cant wait.
