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WA kiters now need life jacket + EPIRB

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Created by bardunyah > 9 months ago, 4 Aug 2014
bardunyah
WA, 73 posts
4 Aug 2014 8:42PM
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lol.

From your government, that you pay for:"Kite and wind surfers operating more than 400 metres from shore are now required to carry safety equipment. Department of Transport Coordinator of Safety Education Laurie Adams said the growing popularity of kite and wind surfing, coupled with recent
developments in the sports and participants venturing further and further offshore had prompted new laws to improve safety of the activities.

"The laws , which apply from today (August 1, 2014 ) , promote safety and have the capacity to save lives ," Mr Adams said. "Endorsed by the WA Kite Surfing Association and Windsurfing Western Australia following extensive consultation, the new requirements will be the subject of an education campaign and phased in over the next 18 months.

"If a kite or wind surfer is between 400 metres and two nautical miles from shore they now require a life jacket and can chose to carry either red and orange flares or an Emergency Positioning Indicating Radio Beacon (EPI RB) or Personal Locator Beacon (PLB).

DoT has launched Kite and Wind Surf Safe to raise awareness about the new laws. To view the campaign visit www.transport.wa.gov.au/kitesafe"

www.transport.wa.gov.au/mediaFiles/MAC_P_Kite_surfing_safety_equip.pdf



Isn't Lano over 400m offshore?

Sure gonna make a funny site with all those fluro lifejackets & epirbs hitting up main break!

dave......
WA, 2119 posts
4 Aug 2014 9:39PM
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Well that sounds annoying

greenleader
QLD, 5283 posts
5 Aug 2014 12:36AM
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you should have given support to the shark culling program!

wishy
WA, 1501 posts
4 Aug 2014 10:43PM
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This is an outrage.
The only solution is for us to all buy foils which are a more efficient airfoil, allowing better upwind angles suitable for short tacks.
I hope the council will be sweeping the seaweed off the beaches daily to ensure that my 700 bridles don't get tangled.

Blackbeard
WA, 103 posts
5 Aug 2014 7:49AM
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Endorsed by WA Kite Surfing Association......... Nice 1

austin
671 posts
5 Aug 2014 8:10AM
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try enforcing this out the back of Hells

default
WA, 1255 posts
5 Aug 2014 8:39AM
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sooo.. eastern staters ARE interested in what happens in WA

mattyjee
WA, 575 posts
5 Aug 2014 1:38PM
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From the DOT website:


But then...


So If DOT come around to throw you in jail or whatever the penalty is then all you have to do is release the kite and tell them you are surfing.




NoBS
WA, 908 posts
5 Aug 2014 2:42PM
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Blackbeard said..
Endorsed by WA Kite Surfing Association......... Nice 1




NICE ONE WAKSA..

NO WONDER PEOPLE ARE LEAVING YOUR VOLUNTEER ORGANISATION IN DROVES AND NOT RENEWING MEMBERSHIPS THIS YEAR.

juicerider
WA, 790 posts
5 Aug 2014 3:38PM
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NoBS said..
Blackbeard said..
Endorsed by WA Kite Surfing Association......... Nice 1




NICE ONE WAKSA..

NO WONDER PEOPLE ARE LEAVING YOUR VOLUNTEER ORGANISATION IN DROVES AND NOT RENEWING MEMBERSHIPS THIS YEAR.



True
Come on WAKSA lift your game, you are supposed to be representing us, not endorsing something that is going to put almost all wave riding and freestyle outside of the law.

terminal
1421 posts
5 Aug 2014 4:37PM
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You also have to stay below 8 knots when within 45 metres of a swimmer or an anchored boat, or if in a mooring area.

And you have to stick to the Port/Starboard rule.

www.transport.wa.gov.au/imarine/speed-limits.asp

www.transport.wa.gov.au/imarine/rules-of-the-road.asp

laurie
WA, 3858 posts
5 Aug 2014 4:42PM
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I think the 400m rule requiring life jackets has already been there, so some people might be experiencing a bit of histeria/knee jerk reaction.

Probably won't affect 99.9% of kiters, and hopefully (hopefully!) there are exclusions for particular wave spots.

Surprised at how quick you guys are to point the finger at WAKSA?

WAKSA have a fantastic history of helping kiters. They have done more to save spots & keep access open than anybody. Have some faith people.

Poida
WA, 1921 posts
5 Aug 2014 4:59PM
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just in case i do go 400m offshore, not that i have or ever would
can someone post a pic of the types of lifejackets and safety equipment needed to do that
im too lazy to google

waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
5 Aug 2014 5:55PM
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laurie said..


WAKSA have a fantastic history of helping kiters. They have done more to save spots & keep access open than anybody. Have some faith people.




WAKSA loves to tell the whole goddamn world about all the kite spots in Western Australia.

WAKSA fully promotes crowdkiting.

Thanks for helping, WAKSA.

lol.

SugarQube
WA, 490 posts
5 Aug 2014 6:03PM
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As far as I know, and it would be good to get the facts, but WAKSA worked with the DOT so that the restrictions were not worse than they are.

One of the options was to ban Waveslave from kiting and have 500m but WAKSA said we will all take a hit for the slave

KiterBen
SA, 161 posts
5 Aug 2014 7:59PM
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And here we have a WA kite surfer readying for a session.

TurtleHunter
WA, 1675 posts
5 Aug 2014 6:35PM
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Well at least I now have a reason for short tacking the windsurfers who are picking waves 1km offshore but I wonder if I can tell transport my flares and life jacket are in the dinghy less than 400m away when kiting offshore waves. Although it will probably only be enforced when they run into kiterpete.

PRAWNDOG
WA, 306 posts
5 Aug 2014 6:40PM
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Hmmm... Slavey that's a bit hypocritical, it wasn't to long ago in the surf forum you blabbed to the whole world one of the local reefies down your way, I'm sure all the locals loved it

Blackbeard
WA, 103 posts
5 Aug 2014 8:38PM
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As a member of WAKSA it would have been nice to know or in any way shape or form be informed of the impeding proposal before it came into play.
A simple post on this forum giving a heads up would have gone a long way!

Subculture
443 posts
5 Aug 2014 9:32PM
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laurie said..

so some people might be experiencing a bit of histeria/knee jerk reaction.



On Seabreeze?

Never

kkiter
NSW, 452 posts
6 Aug 2014 7:41AM
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I believe you also need a foghorn, searchlight and first mate

bearbusa
QLD, 295 posts
6 Aug 2014 9:46AM
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Should be fun trying to enfoce this new rule with all the tourist and other aussies that come to WA for the sport , i can just see all of them bring their gear ,Not

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
6 Aug 2014 9:20AM
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Blackbeard said..
As a member of WAKSA it would have been nice to know or in any way shape or form be informed of the impeding proposal before it came into play.
A simple post on this forum giving a heads up would have gone a long way!




this announcement was not known it was happening to either WWA or WAKSA , blackbeard please go here and read the statement supplied by WAKSA last night

http://www.waksa.org.au/kitesurfing-news/offshore-kite-and-wind-surfers-need-safety-gear

alverstone
WA, 533 posts
6 Aug 2014 9:43AM
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dusta said..

Blackbeard said..
As a member of WAKSA it would have been nice to know or in any way shape or form be informed of the impeding proposal before it came into play.
A simple post on this forum giving a heads up would have gone a long way!


this announcement was not known it was happening to either WWA or WAKSA , blackbeard please go here and read the statement supplied by WAKSA last nighthttp://www.waksa.org.au/kitesurfing-news/offshore-kite-and-wind-surfers-need-safety-gear

Just read the release and it only really affects the offshore race lads and 'right out the back' downwinders, right?. Those downwinders close to shore can get away with it. And there's a year to be told about it, another year to be warned, and only after then will there be fines in 2006/17. I fish in my kayak up to 1km offshore and sure as hell I wear a proper pfd, although I should get a flare. Opps.

bardunyah
WA, 73 posts
6 Aug 2014 3:37PM
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juicerider said..
NoBS said..
Blackbeard said..
Endorsed by WA Kite Surfing Association......... Nice 1


NICE ONE WAKSA..

NO WONDER PEOPLE ARE LEAVING YOUR VOLUNTEER ORGANISATION IN DROVES AND NOT RENEWING MEMBERSHIPS THIS YEAR.



True
Come on WAKSA lift your game, you are supposed to be representing us, not endorsing something that is going to put almost all wave riding and freestyle outside of the law.


Interesting. So an organisation is out there batting for you, and this is your response?

I'd imagine that people would see how they helping, and would be joining/volunteering to help.

I believe that all the Aussie kiting organisations are here to help, and they have my support. It's not like they are campaigning to get beaches closed, get lots of people in one sport, or do any possible harm to the sport.

To think there are haters who actually campaign against volunteers helping out our sport. Astonishing, really.

Sauce
WA, 203 posts
6 Aug 2014 5:02PM
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alverstone said..

dusta said..


Blackbeard said..
As a member of WAKSA it would have been nice to know or in any way shape or form be informed of the impeding proposal before it came into play.
A simple post on this forum giving a heads up would have gone a long way!



this announcement was not known it was happening to either WWA or WAKSA , blackbeard please go here and read the statement supplied by WAKSA last nighthttp://www.waksa.org.au/kitesurfing-news/offshore-kite-and-wind-surfers-need-safety-gear


Just read the release and it only really affects the offshore race lads and 'right out the back' downwinders, right?. Those downwinders close to shore can get away with it. And there's a year to be told about it, another year to be warned, and only after then will there be fines in 2006/17. I fish in my kayak up to 1km offshore and sure as hell I wear a proper pfd, although I should get a flare. Opps.


That's right, only if you are going more than 400m off shore.. Even then, you would have to get caught before anything happened. Freestyle and 95% of everything probably wont be effected. As Alverstone said, nothing will happen for at least 2 years anyway.
Red tape sucks balls but its better than a total ban or having a government department make decisions on a sport it knows little about..

end of the day, do what you want.. if you get caught, you wear it.

Blackbeard
WA, 103 posts
6 Aug 2014 6:46PM
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dusta said..

Blackbeard said..
As a member of WAKSA it would have been nice to know or in any way shape or form be informed of the impeding proposal before it came into play.
A simple post on this forum giving a heads up would have gone a long way!





this announcement was not known it was happening to either WWA or WAKSA , blackbeard please go here and read the statement supplied by WAKSA last night

http://www.waksa.org.au/kitesurfing-news/offshore-kite-and-wind-surfers-need-safety-gear



This announcement was known to WAKSA as stated in your link.
Google definition of endorsed : declare one's public approval or support of.
Not sure why WAKSA would support this idea? To keep beaches open to kiting?




waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
6 Aug 2014 6:57PM
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SugarQube said..
As far as I know, and it would be good to get the facts, but WAKSA worked with the DOT so that the restrictions were not worse than they are.

One of the options was to ban Waveslave from kiting and have 500m but WAKSA said we will all take a hit for the slave


Now that kiting has become totally gay with all these stupid rules and sh!t,

I guess I'll call it quits and just give up the sport for good.

Bye bye everyone.

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
6 Aug 2014 9:02PM
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Blackbeard said..

dusta said..


Blackbeard said..
As a member of WAKSA it would have been nice to know or in any way shape or form be informed of the impeding proposal before it came into play.
A simple post on this forum giving a heads up would have gone a long way!






this announcement was not known it was happening to either WWA or WAKSA , blackbeard please go here and read the statement supplied by WAKSA last night

http://www.waksa.org.au/kitesurfing-news/offshore-kite-and-wind-surfers-need-safety-gear




This announcement was known to WAKSA as stated in your link.
Google definition of endorsed : declare one's public approval or support of.
Not sure why WAKSA would support this idea? To keep beaches open to kiting?






The announcement was known to waksa after it went live on friday . There was no prior knowledge this was going to happen and in the current state . WAKSA is trying , along with WWA to sort **** out .

show me where in the statement that darren put up on the waksa site where he specifically says WAKSA ENDORSES DOT .

please make me look like a fool .

Blackbeard
WA, 103 posts
7 Aug 2014 12:25AM
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dusta said..

Blackbeard said..


dusta said..



Blackbeard said..
As a member of WAKSA it would have been nice to know or in any way shape or form be informed of the impeding proposal before it came into play.
A simple post on this forum giving a heads up would have gone a long way!







this announcement was not known it was happening to either WWA or WAKSA , blackbeard please go here and read the statement supplied by WAKSA last night

http://www.waksa.org.au/kitesurfing-news/offshore-kite-and-wind-surfers-need-safety-gear





This announcement was known to WAKSA as stated in your link.
Google definition of endorsed : declare one's public approval or support of.
Not sure why WAKSA would support this idea? To keep beaches open to kiting?







The announcement was known to waksa after it went live on friday . There was no prior knowledge this was going to happen and in the current state . WAKSA is trying , along with WWA to sort **** out .

show me where in the statement that darren put up on the waksa site where he specifically says WAKSA ENDORSES DOT .

please make me look like a fool .


The announcement may not have been known by WAKSA, but the issue was, as stated from the link.

Quote: WAKSA was consulted in regard to the changes and we did provide feedback on what would work for kite surfers.

Quote: The process leading up to these changes has taken a number of years and presidents, while we have been consulted at various stages the clear message was these changes are happening as part of a larger marine safety plan.

Darren doesn't say it but it says it here:

bardunyah said..
lol.

From your government, that you pay for:"Kite and wind surfers operating more than 400 metres from shore are now required to carry safety equipment. Department of Transport Coordinator of Safety Education Laurie Adams said the growing popularity of kite and wind surfing, coupled with recent
developments in the sports and participants venturing further and further offshore had prompted new laws to improve safety of the activities.

“The laws , which apply from today (August 1, 2014 ) , promote safety and have the capacity to save lives ,” Mr Adams said. “Endorsed by the WA Kite Surfing Association and Windsurfing Western Australia following extensive consultation, the new requirements will be the subject of an education campaign and phased in over the next 18 months.

”If a kite or wind surfer is between 400 metres and two nautical miles from shore they now require a life jacket and can chose to carry either red and orange flares or an Emergency Positioning Indicating Radio Beacon (EPI RB) or Personal Locator Beacon (PLB).

DoT has launched Kite and Wind Surf Safe to raise awareness about the new laws. To view the campaign visit www.transport.wa.gov.au/kitesafe"

www.transport.wa.gov.au/mediaFiles/MAC_P_Kite_surfing_safety_equip.pdf



Isn't Lano over 400m offshore?

Sure gonna make a funny site with all those fluro lifejackets & epirbs hitting up main break!


So back to my statement would have been nice to know.

I'm sure your not a fool Dusta and I'm not implying that at all.

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
7 Aug 2014 9:20AM
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you even admit that DOT has said that . Then read what darren has stated .


These laws have been on the cards for years . It was going to happen with or without consultation between WWA and WAKSA and DOT . DOT have made up their own mind on what is the required level of safety gear . That level was not endorsed by either WWA or WAKSA as it says so in the statemement on the waksa page or WWA's tumblr page .

WAKSA had given their suggestion on safety gear but this has obviously not been listened to . Also bear in mind blackbeard that this announcement has alot of errors in it , so don't go on the offensive about alerting members when even WAKSA or WWA had no idea this was being announced on friday .

like others have said the only way you are going to get fined if you try and corss from rotto to the mainland with no gear or get rescued a couple of k's out to sea and have no safety gear with you , otherwise it's business as usual as DOT does not even have enough resources to patrol one beach let alone the entire metro area .



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