I've always thought this would be a much more interesting and challenging race, if it was a Leightons to Rotto, and back again race ( L to L x 2 ). Cut out the ferry trip, and use whatever gear you want, and no limit on numbers.
A new design once again for the 2017 edition of the Red Bull Lighthouse to Leighton ... Improved with shoulder # to make it easier for judges to spot a competitor's race #.
Welcome also to our new supporter: thomsonsrottnest.com.au
Lycras / rashes going in to production today - all custom made in France, with our unique designs and with pockets for two flares and of course a 'passage boucle de harnais' - just what every good lycra requires!
Select to expand quoteL2L said..
A new design once again for the 2017 edition of the Red Bull Lighthouse to Leighton ... Improved with shoulder # to make it easier for judges to spot a competitor's race #.
Welcome also to our new supporter: thomsonsrottnest.com.au
Lycras / rashes going in to production today - all custom made in France, with our unique designs and with pockets for two flares and of course a 'passage boucle de harnais' - just what every good lycra requires!
As its an australian event, maybe source your bibs from an australian brand/retailer, even better one of wa origins, Were doing it tough in wa so every little helps
Select to expand quotecauncy said..L2L said..
A new design once again for the 2017 edition of the Red Bull Lighthouse to Leighton ... Improved with shoulder # to make it easier for judges to spot a competitor's race #.
Welcome also to our new supporter: thomsonsrottnest.com.au
Lycras / rashes going in to production today - all custom made in France, with our unique designs and with pockets for two flares and of course a 'passage boucle de harnais' - just what every good lycra requires!
As its an australian event, maybe source your bibs from an australian brand/retailer, even better one of wa origins, Were doing it tough in wa so every little helps
I've tried for 7 years to find a (West) Australian supplier that will print and manufacture what we require... if you know a reputable supplier we would be delighted to start a conversation ....
I made an enquiry to my local shop in regards a rash/ bib for windfest
said just give us the artwork and they'd do it
they're doing some prints for me now, I'll pass your details on to them or flick me a mail and I'll put you in touch
Select to expand quotecauncy said..
I made an enquiry to my local shop in regards a rash/ bib for windfest
said just give us the artwork and they'd do it
they're doing some prints for me now, I'll pass your details on to them or flick me a mail and I'll put you in touch
:-) All good. We'll need a harness hole and a pocket machined in the back for two orange flares as well...
Hi All
suoer excited to find out if I got through the ballot. Can anyone direct me where to find the names
of who is in?
Thanks
GOOD NEWS! The ballot was successfully staged last night at Fremantle Sailing Club (A BIG thanks to FSC for all their support). Thanks to everyone who attended last night!
The below email has been sent to the successful racers who secured a spot. A number of spots will become available in the following weeks once commitments to sponsors have been confirmed and fulfilled, state tuned. So, if you haven't received an email this morning (CHECK ALSO YOUR JUNK EMAILS), at this stage you have not secured a spot at this time.
As well, Rottnest Express will be running a competition for (3) three FREE spots! And, the charity auction of one further spot will be announced in a couple of weeks.
Select to expand quoteL2L said..
GOOD NEWS! The ballot was successfully staged last night at Fremantle Sailing Club (A BIG thanks to FSC for all their support). Thanks to everyone who attended last night!
The below email has been sent to the successful racers who secured a spot. A number of spots will become available in the following weeks once commitments to sponsors have been confirmed and fulfilled, state tuned. So, if you haven't received an email this morning (CHECK ALSO YOUR JUNK EMAILS), at this stage you have not secured a spot at this time.
As well, Rottnest Express will be running a competition for (3) three FREE spots! And, the charity auction of one further spot will be announced in a couple of weeks.
Tim,
were those of us who haven't got Ka membership yet excluded from the ballot? Guessing I didn't get a place in the race then.
Tim any chance of publishing the list as I have not received an email but it my have gone to the company junk folder which I can't access.
Cheers Joe
Select to expand quoteDeeg said..L2L said..
GOOD NEWS! The ballot was successfully staged last night at Fremantle Sailing Club (A BIG thanks to FSC for all their support). Thanks to everyone who attended last night!
The below email has been sent to the successful racers who secured a spot. A number of spots will become available in the following weeks once commitments to sponsors have been confirmed and fulfilled, state tuned. So, if you haven't received an email this morning (CHECK ALSO YOUR JUNK EMAILS), at this stage you have not secured a spot at this time.
As well, Rottnest Express will be running a competition for (3) three FREE spots! And, the charity auction of one further spot will be announced in a couple of weeks.
Tim,
were those of us who haven't got Ka membership yet excluded from the ballot? Guessing I didn't get a place in the race then.
Nobody was excluded! You only need the KBA Membership in place by race day (even though there are many benefits of 365 days of membership).
Select to expand quoteJoeMc said..
Tim any chance of publishing the list as I have not received an email but it my have gone to the company junk folder which I can't access.
Cheers Joe
Hi Joe, Sorry to advise your name was not pulled out of the wine cooler last night. Rottenest Express will be having a competition for spots and likely a few places will become available in time as people will have changed plans/ not pay the entry fee on time/ get injured/ etc... As well, the charity auction is another option ... Details to follow later in November ...
I didn't apply this year (wife had already booked another race for same day) but have a PFD available to borrow if anyone is keen. It's only been used on my three previous L2L crossings. PM me to arrange pick up.
It's a great event!
Just want to say great job by Tim last night for a fully transparent ballot
The best race of the season
Thanks
L2L , Is there any sort of cancelation list? Thought I was going to be not available for the race but now I am. Have KA registration.
Select to expand quoteKellyKiteSF said..L2L said..
GOOD NEWS! The ballot was successfully staged last night at Fremantle Sailing Club (A BIG thanks to FSC for all their support). Thanks to everyone who attended last night!
The below email has been sent to the successful racers who secured a spot. A number of spots will become available in the following weeks once commitments to sponsors have been confirmed and fulfilled, state tuned. So, if you haven't received an email this morning (CHECK ALSO YOUR JUNK EMAILS), at this stage you have not secured a spot at this time.
As well, Rottnest Express will be running a competition for (3) three FREE spots! And, the charity auction of one further spot will be announced in a couple of weeks.
Hi Tim,
I am a female who registered to participate in the twintip division of the race. I have been kiting for 7 years and met the qualification requirements to race. I did not receive an email yesterday so it seems I did not secure a spot. I would like to know WHY organizers only invited 24 women to participate as compared to 110 men? I thought this was odd when I registered but assumed you guys haven't received many entries in previous years but surely if more than 24 women applied you would make space for more women. Why would you not? So myself and other kiteboarding women around the world would like to understand why this decision was made and how this could ever be considered fair? And are you aware of the message this is sending to women?
Thank you Tim for reaching out to me and confirming that ALL women (including me) who registered were selected to participate in the race. There seems to have been a misunderstanding as I was sent the above email confirming my spot but I did not receive. Tim confirmed I will be in the race YAY and also says "we are 200% supportive of women's racing and have had an approach of actually offering all women a spot in the race as well as running an equal prize pool in now both TT (12 entries) and Foil (7 entries) and with equal size trophies also." all great news, thank you for clarifying Tim and for supporting women in racing! Stoked for the event!
Select to expand quoteKellyKiteSF said..wishy said..
It would be about $45 per person cheaper if they canned the women's prize money.
Its like having prize money for men's netball...politically correct, but wouldn't you be embarassed collecting the trophy when there's only 11 other male netballers in the state?
wishy ... that is a pretty rude thing to say. NO, as a woman I would not be embarrassed to collect a trophy. What IS embarrassing is this industry that only invites 24 women to participate when 110 men are invited to participate. I guarantee you there are more than 24 women kiteboarders that wanted to participate (I was one of them) but I did not get an invite because there is not equal space for women. 
I do commend the organizers for making the prize money equal regardless of gender.
The organizer has confirmed that ALL women (including me) who registered for the event were given a spot. I should have received an email yesterday confirming my spot. I am happy to hear that the organizers are supportive of women in racing and ensuring that prize money and entry space is equal.
wishy ... I still think your comment was inappropriate.
So 100 percent of the girls got in, and less than 100% of boys. Yep, that how it works at my house:-)
Yeah.... Kelly I would say that means there are probably too many spots allowed for women? Wouldn't you think? If you all got a spot and heaps of bloke didn't?
Edit: maybe L2L organisers should take the percentage or male V female applications and work out the percentage for next years race? That way it's 100% fair.....
Kelly, I'm only making assumptions here, but I think you would have a worse chance next year if they did
Hi Kelly ..i felt your pain for 5 minutes ,then read you and all the girls got accepted,congratz....What amazes me about this race is the high proportion of D.N.Sers and D.N.Fers ...2 years ago 27 non finishers and last year around 50 non finishers...For participants to have a high level of experience in their application form ,why pull out ?..Not having a big kite surely is not a worthy excuse..Can Tim send some D.N.Fers t shirts to K.p.shop sydney and i will buy enough for my touch footy team...L 2 L ...D.N.Fers has some prestige and rarity about it.
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Hi Kelly ..i felt your pain for 5 minutes ,then read you and all the girls got accepted,congratz....
Sounds like those who didn't get a spot via lucky dip need to play a race/religion/point of difference card (mates, pros, high profile perthanality etc) next year and leave the luck of the draw lucky dip to the middle class 40y/o suckers...
Select to expand quoteMDSXR6T said..towradgi said..
Hi Kelly ..i felt your pain for 5 minutes ,then read you and all the girls got accepted,congratz....
Sounds like those who didn't get a spot via lucky dip need to play a race/religion/point of difference card (mates, pros, high profile perthanality etc) next year and leave the luck of the draw lucky dip to the middle class 40y/o suckers...
Is it a fairer application system to have the first 140 race applications quota...accepted for the race from a set time and date ? Than a lucky dip ballot. What is a fairer application system othetwise ?
Select to expand quotetowradgi said..MDSXR6T said..towradgi said..
Hi Kelly ..i felt your pain for 5 minutes ,then read you and all the girls got accepted,congratz....
Sounds like those who didn't get a spot via lucky dip need to play a race/religion/point of difference card (mates, pros, high profile perthanality etc) next year and leave the luck of the draw lucky dip to the middle class 40y/o suckers...
Is it a fairer application system to have the first 140 race applications quota...accepted for the race from a set time and date ? Than a lucky dip ballot. What is a fairer application system othetwise ?
I think both methods are discrimination free and an even playing field. X amount of spots made available to anyone capable regardless of status, race, religion, ability, gender and it's then bad luck if you miss out!
If anyone wants to borrow a pfd 50 for the race send me a pm. I think its a large, maybe a medium.
I think the wind was fine last year so I would be suprised if there was 50 dnf. I have seen a list of times and it was a full sheet of 60 entries and another of 56, so 116 timed results.
The year before the wind was a bit fluky, but even then most recorded as dnf were for overtime limit (I think 45 minutes after first place) so lots of people finished the race, but slowed by the conditions.
I am sure it will be another good race and it seems the luck of the draw is as good a method as any.
Would suggest those without a kite bigger than a 9 might want to borrow or buy one and practise a few lighter seabreeze days, as the past few years has shown that is a possibility.
Race safe
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Yeah.... Kelly I would say that means there are probably too many spots allowed for women? Wouldn't you think? If you all got a spot and heaps of bloke didn't?
Edit: maybe L2L organisers should take the percentage or male V female applications and work out the percentage for next years race? That way it's 100% fair.....
Kelly, I'm only making assumptions here, but I think you would have a worse chance next year if they did
Spark, you are absolutely right ... 19 women in the race when there are 121 men is definitely too many spots for women! Us women are taking up 13% of spots, how dare us!!! Perhaps organizers should reduce to only 2 spots for women then all you blokes could get a spot. That would be more fair right!?!?!? Unbelievable.
100% fair in regards to gender would be allotting 70 spots for women and 70 spots for men. If 70 women don't register then the remaining spots would go to men.
Another fair scenario would be what towradgi suggested ... the first 140 applicants get a spot.
Select to expand quotetowradgi said..
Hi Kelly ..i felt your pain for 5 minutes ,then read you and all the girls got accepted,congratz....What amazes me about this race is the high proportion of D.N.Sers and D.N.Fers ...2 years ago 27 non finishers and last year around 50 non finishers...For participants to have a high level of experience in their application form ,why pull out ?..Not having a big kite surely is not a worthy excuse..Can Tim send some D.N.Fers t shirts to K.p.shop sydney and i will buy enough for my touch footy team...L 2 L ...D.N.Fers has some prestige and rarity about it.
Towradgi,
I was one of the 27 non finishers 2 years ago.
Scenario: Race start postponed for lack of wind at Leighton (17-18kn at Rotto at the time). Squall hit the coast so race started about 30 mins late. Happily sitting in 17-18kn most of the race then very light conditions close to the finish. About 40m out from the finish line I was taken out by someone else's kite falling out of the sky. Lines tangled together, lots of swearing and a self rescue across the line along with 10-15 others.
Was gutted as I was still powered on a 17 and bigger board when I got taken out.
Most of those D.N.Fers from 2015 didn't pull out by choice. Most guys had 12's that just wouldn't fly in the conditions at the line at the time.
As for the D.N.Sers, agree, very poor form. The forecast was for light wind. Be prepared.
Its 3/4 reach across the roads, virtually downwind, so go a kite size up from what forecast says.
Select to expand quoteKellyKiteSF said..Spark said..
Yeah.... Kelly I would say that means there are probably too many spots allowed for women? Wouldn't you think? If you all got a spot and heaps of bloke didn't?
Edit: maybe L2L organisers should take the percentage or male V female applications and work out the percentage for next years race? That way it's 100% fair.....
Kelly, I'm only making assumptions here, but I think you would have a worse chance next year if they did
Spark, you are absolutely right ... 19 women in the race when there are 121 men is definitely too many spots for women! Us women are taking up 13% of spots, how dare us!!! Perhaps organizers should reduce to only 2 spots for women then all you blokes could get a spot. That would be more fair right!?!?!? Unbelievable.
100% fair in regards to gender would be allotting 70 spots for women and 70 spots for men. If 70 women don't register then the remaining spots would go to men.
Another fair scenario would be what towradgi suggested ... the first 140 applicants get a spot.
Kelly, what is fair is we are neither men nor women but kite boarders. All of the kite boarder names go in the hat and the draw is made.
Select to expand quoteKellyKiteSF said..Spark said..
Yeah.... Kelly I would say that means there are probably too many spots allowed for women? Wouldn't you think? If you all got a spot and heaps of bloke didn't?
Edit: maybe L2L organisers should take the percentage or male V female applications and work out the percentage for next years race? That way it's 100% fair.....
Kelly, I'm only making assumptions here, but I think you would have a worse chance next year if they did
Spark, you are absolutely right ... 19 women in the race when there are 121 men is definitely too many spots for women! Us women are taking up 13% of spots, how dare us!!! Perhaps organizers should reduce to only 2 spots for women then all you blokes could get a spot. That would be more fair right!?!?!? Unbelievable.
100% fair in regards to gender would be allotting 70 spots for women and 70 spots for men. If 70 women don't register then the remaining spots would go to men.
Another fair scenario would be what towradgi suggested ... the first 140 applicants get a spot.
I think you have missed my point....
a 50/50 split would definitely not be fair because there are far more men involved in this sport than women, I wouldn't of thought I would have to spell it out for you but there you go.
And if there wasn't 70 women wanting to race you would be nice enough to let some more blokes have a go? THANKYOU SO MUCH!
unless L2L let us know what the percentage is we will never know but
maybe... 2 spots for women is fair.
i look around my beach when the wind is pumping and there is definitely not 13% women down there pumping up.... maybe 2-5%, could be different where you kite.
just my opinion, you don't have to agree with it
