Has anyone been happy with their small C kites for unhooked tricks i.e wakestyle/ freestyle. I love my 11 & 14m. But my 8m just is too twitchy. I like my kites to just park in the one spot, while going for passes and rolls. The 8m just doesn't cut it, and that's on a 15" bar with 23m lines. I'm still trying a couple other settings which may help (on the leader lines at the kite), but I'm not optimistic.
I tried the kite on 25m lines and that was even worse. The recommended line length is 21m, which I'm going to try, but I can't help feel its going to make the kite even more twitchy.
Any feedback or ideas is welcome.
If this doesn't work, I'm probably gonna have to shop around for a new small C kite 
I feel your pain. I'd love to see companies design kites 100% made for unhooked tricks, i.e. super slow small sizes, it's a shame no one really does it.
In my experience longer lines can help some small kites turn slower and also be less twitchy due to the drag on the lines and the bigger wind window (also try thicker lines). There's not really anyway to get around it though. I find myself riding my 10m in quite a lot of wind because I prefer the feel of a bigger kite. A smaller kite will also never have the consistent pull that a bigger kite has, no matter the design.
p.s. This is also one reason I believe it's better to have mid size kites rather gutless in design rather than grunty power horses.
I get around it by splitting the bar. But i find if you are trying super slacky tricks, like mobes. They slack so much that they dont move at all mid trick. But I totally understand. I hate it for anything other thenight loops and mobes
My 9m GP is still ok to unhook on...don't have a 7m GP but yea I think it would be way too fast. I've heard the HifiX is pretty slow for size...only tried the old one but the 9 felt way slower than my GP...
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My 9m GP is still ok to unhook on...don't have a 7m GP but yea I think it would be way too fast. I've heard the HifiX is pretty slow for size...only tried the old one but the 9 felt way slower than my GP...
True. Small Hi-Fi X are probably the slowest along with the Fuel. I think Fuel 6m is the slowest small kite I've used.
I'm fine unhooking on my 9m Vegas but my 7 just gets used for boosting and hooked in stuff. Gets to 23-25kn and then unhooking becomes relaunch practice cause you crash more I found. (Flat water is a thing of dreams in gero landing in chop doesn't help)
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My 9m GP is still ok to unhook on...don't have a 7m GP but yea I think it would be way too fast. I've heard the HifiX is pretty slow for size...only tried the old one but the 9 felt way slower than my GP...
I love the slack my 7gp gives. If you cause get that slack with the big girls I would be in heaven. You can almost over slack
Edit. If over slack is such a thing
just by glanceing at your situation. sounds like you want a wakestyle kite not a freestyle kite.? if all your after is continuous pull something like a little switchblade might be better then a c kite for you.... but then the line slack may become an issue for you. tuff call i guess but could allways just work on hand placement. i need my front hand to be a touch further away from center of bar to help with kite being pulled to high in the window etc so it just places right in the window and stays there (sometimes :) ) im still kookin it only thing i need is bigger balls for last few years anyways
Hi Peeps,
It all comes down to what you are used to. I know the guys in Maui ride 5's and 7's and do all the freestyle tricks they like in 30+ knots. It's just a matter of getting used to it. Where we fly 8's and 10's day in and day out, if it were 30 knots every day, you just adapt and get used to it. You then spend your time whinging about how slow 8 and 9m kites are 
It would be so good if they made small kites slower. I do get an extra bit of satisfaction if i land something good on my small kite.
try taking another inch/inch and a half off the bar kungfu.
i run a 13.5 inch bar with my 7 and 9 fuels and it seems to make the kites heaps less twitchy
If you have an old bar, or willing to cut up your good bar. Cut that **** down. A small bar and splitting it and your kite will go nowhere.
Cheers for the feedback guys. I guess small kites just are what they are.
I ended up flying the kite on 21m lines and it felt more stable, however it was just as twitchy especially when you make the pass but end up pulling hard. Sends the kite one way or the other. Little scary and unexpected, not what I am used too.
I've consider chopping the bar a little shorter, but one of my mates reckons it could leave the kite being less stable???
Don't know how the guys do what they do on the pro tour with 7m kites, gusty winds and choppy conditions!
Send me all your ****ty small fast kites. I love fast kites. The faster the better. I wish all my kites turned like my 6m.
But i'm not unhooking and dick around in the waves. So fast is better.
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Cheers for the feedback guys. I guess small kites just are what they are.
I ended up flying the kite on 21m lines and it felt more stable, however it was just as twitchy especially when you make the pass but end up pulling hard. Sends the kite one way or the other. Little scary and unexpected, not what I am used too.
I've consider chopping the bar a little shorter, but one of my mates reckons it could leave the kite being less stable???
Don't know how the guys do what they do on the pro tour with 7m kites, gusty winds and choppy conditions!
I know how you feel, when you catch the bar right at the ends. But honestly, I was hitting a rail yesterday with my 7m gp on a wakeskate. I said it before, just have to split the bar.
Select to expand quotekemp90 said..kungfupete said...
Cheers for the feedback guys. I guess small kites just are what they are.
I ended up flying the kite on 21m lines and it felt more stable, however it was just as twitchy especially when you make the pass but end up pulling hard. Sends the kite one way or the other. Little scary and unexpected, not what I am used too.
I've consider chopping the bar a little shorter, but one of my mates reckons it could leave the kite being less stable???
Don't know how the guys do what they do on the pro tour with 7m kites, gusty winds and choppy conditions!
I know how you feel, when you catch the bar right at the ends. But honestly, I was hitting a rail yesterday with my 7m gp on a wakeskate. I said it before, just have to split the bar.
OK I'll do it. If the bar is roughly 15", how much show I cut off each side?
Select to expand quotekungfupete said..kemp90 said..kungfupete said...
Cheers for the feedback guys. I guess small kites just are what they are.
I ended up flying the kite on 21m lines and it felt more stable, however it was just as twitchy especially when you make the pass but end up pulling hard. Sends the kite one way or the other. Little scary and unexpected, not what I am used too.
I've consider chopping the bar a little shorter, but one of my mates reckons it could leave the kite being less stable???
Don't know how the guys do what they do on the pro tour with 7m kites, gusty winds and choppy conditions!
I know how you feel, when you catch the bar right at the ends. But honestly, I was hitting a rail yesterday with my 7m gp on a wakeskate. I said it before, just have to split the bar.
OK I'll do it. If the bar is roughly 15", how much show I cut off each side?
by split the bar, i mean split the center line with your index and rude finger.
but by cutting it down, iv seen people have there bars just a little bit wider then your fists. my bar is 42cm, i would like to cut it a bit smaller but i use the same bar for my 11m and my 7m so, so i think i would loose loads or steer on my 11m.
i dont no why some1 would say it would make it unstable with a short bar, it should just be slower.
Attach the powerlines straight to the hook with a clovehitch + halfhitch and just hang on to the steerers for a real nice feel.
Select to expand quotesir ROWDY said..
Mine is 14 inch.
we are still talking about bars yea? just making sure 
Select to expand quotetbranse said..sir ROWDY said..
Mine is 14 inch.
we are still talking about bars yea? just making sure
Nah, on the flop.
I'll give 14" ago Rowdy.
Yeah I always split the bar too Kemp. Didn't know it was called that though.
Thanks for all the feedback fellas.
If anyone ever makes a small kite that works for wakestyle, I wanna know about it.
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I'll give 14" ago Rowdy.
Yeah I always split the bar too Kemp. Didn't know it was called that though.
Thanks for all the feedback fellas.
If anyone ever makes a small kite that works for wakestyle, I wanna know about it.
Small bar is key. It kills resale so try to do it with an old one if you can. 7m Hifi X is by far the slowest small kite I've ever flown. I've said it before on here, Pastor flew my 7 last year in Perth and then was on the horn to Airush that night to slow down the Razor 7m. I can do everything on my 7 and 9 for the most part that I can do on the big sizes. That said, I would like my 13m to have a bit more go so it's all relative, the small sizes of Hifi are rippers.
You lads have to stop giving me ideas.
Poped this out after work today. Triple riveted.
Select to expand quoteUnderoath said..
You lads have to stop giving me ideas.
Poped this out after work today. Triple riveted.
Nice work brother!
p.s. Not to say there's no point, but I always just re-attach with one small screw and the ends never fall off again (as long as they are tight going back on). New SS bars are only held on by one small screw as well and a small amount of glue.
Select to expand quoteUnderoath said...
You lads have to stop giving me ideas.
Poped this out after work today. Triple riveted.
Ohhh baby! I got an old slingy bar in the shed. Definitely cutting the sh!t out of it this weekend!
