I applaud the American people...

Im a bottle of shiraz in eppo... you must be 2!!!

either way price of kites still gonna go up

Thatcher ****ed the kids !!!!!

WHAT A GREAT EXAMPLE HOW THE MEDIA CAN TRICK US

The media portrayed that everyone hated Trump. He said this through his campaign. The rich supported Hillary, yet the middle class stood up!

Spot on Eppo.

Yes, but the one eyed, left media still doesn't get it. I was just looking at the main stream morning shows and the majority of the hosts are still making snide jokes about Trump, which by default include his supporters. Don't they get that their crap hasn't worked in turning the view of the "commoners", "working class", "blue collar workers". The truth is most of these latte sipping elitists or want to be elitists think that main stream suburban/ country folk are a ‘Basket of Deplorables’, as Hillary said...

BTW: I don't agree with everything Trump said but "the swamp needs to be drained".

As I said via PM eppo, at least you are one (of the few) who actually sees it as it really is.

For the rest of you, here's a brief look at where they (we) are now.

Not my fault if it goes over your heads..

BTW, seeing as this thread is in the kiteboarding general section, next decent Perth sea breeze, should be Saturday..
Oh, maybe it should be in the WA section now




"The US presidential election is historic, because the American people were able to defeat the oligarchs. Hillary Clinton, an agent for the Oligarchy, was defeated despite the vicious media campaign against Donald Trump. This shows that the media and the political establishments of the political parties no longer have credibility with the American people.

It remains to be seen whether Trump can select and appoint a government that will serve him and his goals to restore American jobs and to establish friendly and respectful relations with Russia, China, Syria, and Iran.

It also remains to be seen how the Oligarchy will respond to Trump's victory. Wall Street and the Federal Reserve can cause an economic crisis in order to put Trump on the defensive, and they can use the crisis to force Trump to appoint one of their own as Secretary of the Treasury. Rogue agents in the CIA and Pentagon can cause a false flag attack that would disrupt friendly relations with Russia. Trump could make a mistake and retain neoconservatives in his government.

With Trump there is at least hope. Unless Trump is obstructed by bad judgment in his appointments and by obstacles put in his way, we should expect an end to Washington's orchestrated conflict with Russia, the removal of the US missiles on Russia's border with Poland and Romania, the end of the conflict in Ukraine, and the end of Washington's effort to overthrow the Syrian government. However, achievements such as these imply the defeat of the US Oligarchy. Although Trump defeated Hillary, the Oligarchy still exists and is still powerful.

Trump said that he no longer sees the point of NATO 25 years after the Soviet collapse. If he sticks to his view, it means a big political change in Washington's EU vassals. The hostility toward Russia of the current EU and NATO officials would have to cease. German Chancellor Merkel would have to change her spots or be replaced. NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg would have to be dismissed.

We do not know who Trump will select to serve in his government. It is likely that Trump is unfamiliar with the various possibilities and their positions on issues. It really depends on who is advising Trump and what advice they give him. Once we see his government, we will know whether we can be hopeful for the changes that now have a chance.

If the oligarchy is unable to control Trump and he is actually successful in curbing the power and budget of the military/security complex and in holding the financial sector politically accountable, Trump could be assassinated.

Trump said that he will put Hillary in prison. He should first put her on trial for treason and war crimes along with all of the neoconservatives. That would clear the decks for peace with the other two major nuclear powers over whom the neoconservatives seek hegemony. Although the neoconservatives would still have contacts in the hidden deep state, it would make it difficult for the vermin to organize false flag operations or an assassination. Rogue elements in the military/security complex could still bring off an assassination, but without neocons in the government a coverup would be more difficult.

Trump has more understanding and insight than his opponents realize. For a man such as Trump to risk acquiring so many powerful enemies and to risk his wealth and reputation, he had to have known that the people's dissatisfaction with the ruling establishment meant he could be elected president.

We won't know what to expect until we see who are the Secretaries and Assistant Secretaries. If it is the usual crowd, we will know Trump has been captured.

A happy lasting result of the election is the complete discrediting of the US media. The media predicted an easy Hillary victory and even Democratic Party control of the US Senate. Even more important to the media's loss of influence and credibility, despite the vicious media attack on Trump throughout the presidential primaries and presidential campaign, the media had no effect outside the Northeast and West coasts, the stomping grounds of the One Percent. The rest of the country ignored the media.

I did not think the Oligarchy would allow Trump to win. However, it seems that the oligarchs were deceived by their own media propaganda. Assured that Hillary was the sure winner, they were unprepared to put into effect plans to steal the election.

Hillary is down, but not the Oligarchs. If Trump is advised to be conciliatory, to hold out his hand, and to take the establishment into his government, the American people will again be disappointed. In a country whose institutions have been so completely corrupted by the Oligarchy, it is difficult to achieve real change without bloodshed."

one more to try and enlighten some of you who are now brain dead from being told by elitist 'experts' on what the state of play is...


The Death Knell for Elitism
They’re everywhere. Turn on your television or pick up a paper. Listen to a radio or read the online news. There’s always someone telling us how we should think, and what we should do. The belief that they know better — that they are superior to the rest of us — permeates every corner of our lives. A smug presenter backed up by a one-sided panel sniggers at viewers with a dissenting view. The condescending nod while the host listens to a question.

Discussion panels and ‘debates’ where everybody agrees with everybody else; no alternate view is countenanced. Those that disagree with and challenge the ‘consensus’ are considered ignorant or uneducated. This is the argument that’s been trotted out since Brexit. That the poor old folks didn’t know what they were doing. That somehow, those who grew up under the black cloud shadowing post-Second World War Britain couldn’t comprehend the implications of seeking to regain control of their economy and borders. Well, that’s what the elites will tell you. That’s the way society has gone — the megaphone minority blasting away in our ear.

The elites who believe their values and opinions are the only ones that matter. Pity the poor taxpayer who picks up the tab. The international ‘specialist’ who flies in for a couple of days to lecture us on what they think we’re doing wrong. From how farmers should manage their land, the type of energy we should use, through to how to control our borders. How these self-appointed experts love to enlighten the great unwashed.

And it’s not just the big ticket items on the national arena. It happens at the local level as well. It could be the council dictating something as simple as the colour a homeowner is allowed to paint their fence. Or, how they clad their house. There’s the local action group. After moving into an area and setting themselves up as they see fit, they seek to restrict who can join them, and what their fellow residents can do. A paddock that once held a mob of sheep has been subdivided, and then subdivided again. Yet the new owner places a placard on their new fence protesting against any future developments.

The events of yesterday in the US have turned the world on its head. World leaders are struggling to know how to respond, if at all, to Trump’s victory. While so much of the commentary and analysis by the experts has been about the two personalities involved, the US election results reflect something much more basic than that.

It’s that the ones who do the lifting — that is, those who set their alarms early and go off to work — are tired of subsidising those that are the recipients of the public purse.

They’ve had enough of paying for the lifestyles of those who look down on them. This includes the political class who lecture them, and everyone else. The commentariat are putting their spin on the US election result this morning. Much like Brexit, they’re arguing that the poor uneducated folks didn’t know what they were doing. But they miss the point.

The result is a two-fingered salute to the political elite who sign off on trade agreements with little regard for those that will lose their jobs. It’s a protest against those elected to represent the voters’ interests but rarely, if ever, visit the factory floor. But it’s not only the political class who left the majority behind. The result also reflects the great chasm that continues to grow between the wealthy elite — Wall Street — and those on the other side. Like Australia, real wages in the US have gone nowhere for years.

The post-GFC world has only pumped more money into the top few percent, while everybody else has been left a long way behind. While the Dow Jones Industrial Index has increased more than two-and-a-half times since the lows of 2009, real wages have barely increased a dime. Nobody knows how the Trump presidency will play out. I doubt he even knows himself. And as the elites predict, it might turn out to be one of the US’ great follies.

Some are calling the result a swing back to conservatism. But the result illustrates ever so strongly how the so-called ‘silent majority’ are deciding to reclaim the way their lives are governed. It’s a major blow to elitism, and is a trend that will only grow.

Bill tried to cheer up Hillary this morning by reminding her that Nelson Mandela wasn't elected president until after he had served 27 years in prison.

I sense some hostility to politicians there Eppo. So to hell with the world to make a point ah?

gawd

heavy weather this cr*pp

This is what it's all about

Money, a shidt load of it
And this is how it ends for the ones who do the dirty work for the spineless ****s that haven't got the balls to get their hands dirty