Select to expand quotewdric said..
No Doubt PKR has cost somebody/people a lot of time and effort and most likely cash if the cost to join is about what the insurance costs, that takes some commitment not found in many people, and there is no doubt the world would be a better place with more people wiling to put in the extra mile.
And there will be many hundreds of hours year after year
I do wonder if PKR if mostly for the racers and to promote events, would that same level of commitment and time had been better put to use from within WAKSA were there are surely already resources in place for dealing with all the things the club wishes to accomplish.
While there are a few who complain about insurance costs I am sure their collective WAKSA membership would not add up to what it would cost to setup and run a club just for cheaper insurance.
Our sport along with just about every other sport has many participants that are just care free and do what they want when they want, these people will most likely never join any organisation just for insurance so the argument about WAKSA being to expensive for just insurance would surely be null an void as these people never bother to look what options they have, it just aint in their thought process.
All events need volunteers, sailing, football, surfing, pushbike etc that aren't participating to make them happen.
All events and clubs cost money, this has to come from somewhere, membership, sponsors, fund raisers, government grants, club membership is used to pay for most things but often the volunteers reward is seeing the organisation raise funds from events to help keep it sustainable into the future and do things better.
Coming from NSW and having been to a few WA events the yellow shirts are certainly appreciated.
Are there more volunteers out there not doing a job for waksa willing to assist PKR?
Will some waksa helpers also help out PKR?
Will PKR align with sailing clubs and use their support network?
will there be a divide between waksa and PKR
Will they be bidding to run events 
Will waksa waive the waksa membership for their events if you have somebody else s insurance
(the membership covers more than insurance)So many questions, Big Big job.
But most importantly
Will friendships be tested
Hopefully not as surely all concerned have the sports best interest in mind
Work to be done, a lot of people do not understand the historical journey of a 'past time' to legitimate sport. Which is the journey that Kitesurfing is on. It requires commitment and hard work by people who understand the journey and see the vision. The best thing that we can all do is 'get it'. and understand our individual contribution potential to the development of a sport we all love so much.
Hats off to the trail blazers - maybe WAKSA can put out a little clip that educates people new to the sport about the history. Maybe that's a good use of membership resources to educate the masses, articulate the vision and explain the challenges.
Select to expand quotehirschausen said..
Work to be done, a lot of people do not understand the historical journey of a 'past time' to legitimate sport. Which is the journey that Kitesurfing is on. It requires commitment and hard work by people who understand the journey and see the vision.
Wow,
All this talk about making kiting 'legitimate' and doing the 'hard work'. ^^^
lol.
What a crock of WAKSA.
Some of us kite cause it's simply hell fun ...
rubbish like keeping score, committee politic, saving the fken world, rules, more stupid rules and meetings ...
are strictly off the agenda.
I fondly remember when the 'past-time' was unashamedly illegitimate,
a freaky alien love-child hastily conceived from sweaty fertile loins of a surfer/poley orgy.
Aloha, Slave.
I see this 2 ways, if you feel secure around a group having fun in the knowledge that your arse is covered in the unlikely event of an accident, where you can talk **** about the latest and greatest kite ,race boards and foil designs at the end of a 12knt session having a BBQ, or you go out alone Billy no mates to a remote un crowded spot in 30knts finished with a guiness and talk **** to your dog, and don't even think of a BBQ cause the wind blows it out, I know which group I'm in,
It just took me two hours to read this thread and now I know why that dude straps a foil to his surf board
Select to expand quotecauncy said..
I see this 2 ways, if you feel secure around a group having fun in the knowledge that your arse is covered in the unlikely event of an accident, where you can talk **** about the latest and greatest kite ,race boards and foil designs at the end of a 12knt session having a BBQ, or you go out alone Billy no mates to a remote un crowded spot in 30knts finished with a guiness and talk **** to your dog, and don't even think of a BBQ cause the wind blows it out, I know which group I'm in,
I don't. They both sound like fun to me.
Select to expand quotewaveslave said..hirschausen said..
Work to be done, a lot of people do not understand the historical journey of a 'past time' to legitimate sport. Which is the journey that Kitesurfing is on. It requires commitment and hard work by people who understand the journey and see the vision.
Wow,
All this talk about making kiting 'legitimate' and doing the 'hard work'. ^^^
lol.
What a crock of WAKSA.
Some of us kite cause it's simply hell fun ...
rubbish like keeping score, committee politic, saving the fken world, rules, more stupid rules and meetings ...
are strictly off the agenda.
I fondly remember when the 'past-time' was unashamedly illegitimate,
a freaky alien love-child hastily conceived from sweaty fertile loins of a surfer/poley orgy.
Aloha, Slave.
This guy is like a sniper! Sits up on the ridge, taking shots at people to hurt them, and then leaving, never engaging in any conversation.
As a "wave" slave, I wonder if he values "rules" such as not dropping in, waiting your turn in the line up, or if he is a "hell fun, no rules" kind of guy who just does his own thing without a care for others?
I guess you also hate people who speak out about others dropping in on you?
Your viewpoint that a kite organisation is "creating" rules it's rediculous. Kite org's help fight **against** rules. I can't find any evidence that orgs work to add rules.
Happy to be proven wrong (with facts)
No reply expected...
An official communication from Kiteboarding Australia in relation to the ‘Perth Kite Racing Club’ can be found here:
http://aksa.com.au/resources/Documents/140820-PKRC%20Response%20Final.pdf
Any queries in relation to this matter should be directed to <contact@kiteboardingaus.com>.
So after reading all the posts on this thread, am I correct to interpret PKR as simply a club that focuses on kite racing in it's various forms, and that PKR plans to become the first club affiliated to KA?
Have you guys made a formal application/approach to KA to be that first affiliated club, cause there'd be a certain amount of kudos being "the first"....
Select to expand quotebardunyah said..waveslave said..
Wow,
All this talk about making kiting 'legitimate' and doing the 'hard work'. ^^^
lol.
What a crock of WAKSA.
Some of us kite cause it's simply hell fun ...
rubbish like keeping score, committee politic, saving the fken world, rules, more stupid rules and meetings ...
are strictly off the agenda.
I fondly remember when the 'past-time' was unashamedly illegitimate,
a freaky alien love-child hastily conceived from sweaty fertile loins of a surfer/poley orgy.
Aloha, Slave.
This guy is like a sniper! Sits up on the ridge, taking shots at people to hurt them, and then leaving, never engaging in any conversation.
No reply expected...
Hi bardunyah,
What would you like to talk about ?
I'm always up for a friendly chat.
But first off, can you please reveal your gender to me.
I'm guessing you're female ... [your avatar picture, the feminine tone of your text]
Pardon me if I'm wrong.
Anyhow, this forum needs more girl members.
Certainly an interesting topic for those involved, probly boring as bat **** for those not into racing, maybe wavy is racer in his former days as he has taken an interest!Lets face it kite racing is a niche sport and PKR was mostly likely formed the same way kite racing has been happening in this country since the first Sail Melbourne event in December 2012, It is a few passionate kiters that are blazing the trail as far as racing goes with great support from Sailing clubs, and it all seemed to get a great boost from that Olympic decision which no doubt caught the attention of a few sailing clubs and anyone that gets existed by the word "Olympic", some see glory, some see $$$, some see an opportunity and I am sure that will be reignited in the future, thats gunna liven it up a bit 
Kite racing has more in common with sailing clubs than it does Kite boarding at the local beach.Sailing clubs already have an existing structure under YA/ISAF that has been around for a few generations, just a shame most of them are in crap locations to kite from.
With most kiters being a care free bunch and not much for the rigid rules and structure you find on a race course, In the future will most kite racers come from a sailing background or a kiting background?If we look at all the events such as Sail Melbourne, Sail Brisbane, Sail Townsville, oceanics, The nationals at Brighton, Townsville Nationals, Melbourne racing at Sandringham and Brighton yacht clubs, Perth racing, Sydney racing, Brisbane racing, it has been some of the most regular organised competition that kiting has seen in a long time in this country, and it's been mostly happening thanks to sailing clubs 
With the exception of the last three that will have been mostly organised by the resources of private companies (thumbs up) the majority have been driven by kiters and their local sailing clubs joining forces to make it happen.
Most of these events will have been sanctioned directly from IKA because the organisation is being done by sailing clubs under YA.
Except for the Townsville and Brighton Nationals which also had freestyle included looking at past events on the KA (aksa) website it is a shame not to see all these "KA sanctioned events" not even get a mention, is that a little pointer to why PKR was born!http://aksa.com.au/events
Even though we have an International kite association that sanctions our events (so the riders get points towards a world ranking) I am not convinced whether kite racing will be more closely aligned with kitesurfing organisations or sailing clubs as has mostly been the case so far at least in Australia and the USA.
Certainly looking forward to the experienced structure of new KA showing the way forward, good luck guys 
And don't forget you have a small but passionate group of racers out there
Cheers
Ric
well done pkr for stepping up and getting it started you just have to look at how the US racers are going after a yacht club started regular racers. It's a shame it has to be so complicated to just have a race. I noticed in the ka response they say they are the kite racing class for ya, so why can't a club be covered by ya like every other yacht club where, like your insurance cover you would be covered for any racers you hold without having to go to ka for permision every time.
By the way if a council or gov department have a problem with kiters they would speak to the local club rather than a national body. i.e. DEC have placed no kiting signs on several beaches here and they didn't go to ka for advise they contacted the local kiters directly as at the time we were part of our local yacht club (funny enough it all stopped due to insurance complications.)
I am sure in the future it will all come together but for now pkr have expanded kiteboarding and this can only be good for the sport.
