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Created by Macroscien > 9 months ago, 12 Aug 2021
Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
12 Aug 2021 8:24PM
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Rapid withdrawer of US military troops from Afghanistan could mean only one thing.
New front is ready to open soon.
We could do here some guessing and betting: who is next...

a) NK?

b) Iran

c) Cuba?

My personal favorite is

d) Guinea
mabye poor african country but:
massive , underdeveloped resources - are in needs to be secured urgently
Simandou- the greatest iron ore resources needs to be protected before fall in wrong hands
say nothing about awful dictator that torture own people, drink blood of babies,
and the most important LBGT are prosecuted and tyrannized!!

beside chance to create few new military's bases in this part of Africa do not happen every day.



What is your favorite bid ?

psychomub
448 posts
12 Aug 2021 6:57PM
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Probably Iran.

Macroscien
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12 Aug 2021 9:10PM
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psychomub said..
Probably Iran.





ok note taken
we also try to guess : when
I bet that after Christmas , but i could be wrong ..Thanksgiving ? ...Lets give people some good rest and plenty of food before games begin..


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gs12
WA, 421 posts
12 Aug 2021 7:23PM
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China for sure

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
12 Aug 2021 9:29PM
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gs12 said..
China for sure

no way..
that mean sepookuu
US is not in suicidal mode ..
but note taken and I triple your rewards if guessing correctly.
Like in and good lottery winner gets more if odds are rare.

OOOps! ,. but they could made AU to make this sacrifice seppuku

we already cut legs off our economy was standing on ...
only iron ore left from rich export thanksgiving table.
but soon to get busted to $50 per tone from $220

now we/AU are sprinting to Victory !!

FormulaNova
WA, 15090 posts
12 Aug 2021 7:54PM
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Sydney?

Macroscien
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12 Aug 2021 10:03PM
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FormulaNova said..
Sydney?



nope,
Sydney is in full lock down,
all people surrounded and kept safe on the beaches.
in total isolation, keep the rest of us safe
well....on the second thought, they may start eating each other if isolation prolongs...






but there is solution;
drinking bleach ( or urine of each other)
could prevent you from turning into zoombie !



FormulaNova
WA, 15090 posts
12 Aug 2021 8:10PM
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I think the USA are going to have a tough time. Withdrawing from these areas makes sense as you don't want to waste your time fighting something that you cannot 'win', but it sounds like the Taliban will be taking over.

Its sad, as people will accuse you of ruining a country, which has already been ruined, just by crazy religious nuts, who will no doubt blame their existence on something they think the US did to them.

Macroscien
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12 Aug 2021 10:17PM
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FormulaNova said..
I think the USA are going to have a tough time. Withdrawing from these areas makes sense as you don't want to waste your time fighting something that you cannot 'win', but it sounds like the Taliban will be taking over.

Its sad, as people will accuse you of ruining a country, which has already been ruined, just by crazy religious nuts, who will no doubt blame their existence on something they think the US did to them.





country that been already in ruins ?!
the moral is then:
lets grab a country that is not in ruin, so nobody could accuse you of anything...
-Switzerland come to mind as first candidate



WRONG AGAIN,
lOOKS LIKE SWISS IS IN TROUBLE TOO,
THEIR CURRENCY CRASHED BY 0.4% IN A YEAR!!

THEIR FRANKS BECOMES WORTHLESS, LAST YAET YOU HAD 1,000,000.01 AND TODAY THEY ARE WORTH ONLY 1,000.000 !!!WHERE IS MY PENNY???!!

gs12
WA, 421 posts
12 Aug 2021 8:21PM
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I reckon it;s the ruskies and the Pootin fella we should be worried about

Macroscien
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12 Aug 2021 10:31PM
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gs12 said..
I reckon it;s the ruskies and the Pootin fella we should be worried about



You possibly don't want to aggravate soviets in the open field

even if they will drop all their own nuclear bombs on their own territory,
then smoke from 65000 bombs will cover whole planet and killl us all.

But there is a catch.
You may load B52 with the best quality Johny Walker , drop from stelthy bomber onto Red Square in Moscow
and soviets will drink themselves to death in no time at all.






according to my calculation that should be sufficient lethal dose per Moscow capita:if consumed in one go



there is one risk only:
if Russians have access to antidote !
One jar eaten before or after JW will completely neglect lethality.


eppo
WA, 9759 posts
12 Aug 2021 8:52PM
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The military Complex will
indeed have to find another country for sure. Im looking more forward to the mainstream medias spin on the reasons why. Popcorn time.

Macroscien
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12 Aug 2021 11:25PM
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eppo said..
The military Complex will
indeed have to find another country for sure. Im looking more forward to the mainstream medias spin on the reasons why. Popcorn time.







indeed ,
usually it starts with some preludium in mass media. How awful this country is , dictator or hanta.
Ground under public must be soften first, before troops and bombs are send.I stil vote for Africa as the fresh meat ready to be consumed by military.
Lets not forget that modern warfare must take care of people ( their own obviously) so most of the action comes from air.Country without air defense misle system is the best.
Eventually the war is founded by own taxpayers , so chosen country don't need to be rich.


after so many mishaps recently,
this tribe seems to be the best opponent
to lift our troops spirit.

beside.
constant reports on Covid in TV news becomes boring, football matches shut down, viewers counts drops, Hunting with drones could open completely new world for wars! Each kill documented and verified by millions viewers.



Don't you think this new war is completely fair?
one side have small drones with only small weapons and grenades'but opponents have their spears and slingshots , so can defend themselves effectively.

gs12
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12 Aug 2021 9:48PM
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Macroscien said..

gs12 said..
I reckon it;s the ruskies and the Pootin fella we should be worried about




You possibly don't want to aggravate soviets in the open field

even if they will drop all their own nuclear bombs on their own territory,
then smoke from 65000 bombs will cover whole planet and killl us all.

But there is a catch.
You may load B52 with the best quality Johny Walker , drop from stelthy bomber onto Red Square in Moscow
and soviets will drink themselves to death in no time at all.






according to my calculation that should be sufficient lethal dose per Moscow capita:if consumed in one go



there is one risk only:
if Russians have access to antidote !
One jar eaten before or after JW will completely neglect lethality.



You can't beat Ruskis with alcohol. They have natural resistance to vodka and AIDS.

Also you got your ogorki mixed up with Polskie ogorki. Even they are also Slavs they don't exactly love Ruski ogorki if you get my drift. In fact they could be our allies in armed conflict with Boris.

Macroscien
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12 Aug 2021 11:59PM
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gs12 said..




You can't beat Ruskis with alcohol. They have natural resistance to vodka and AIDS.



That may be another reason not to poke bear into eye.


There are so many low laying fruits for grab.





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Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
13 Aug 2021 12:08AM
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actually I come to another idea.
War without war !


All US needs to do is confiscate all Chinese deposit in their banks,
forfeit any loan
and block all shipping line TO and OUT china sea.
The pretext is cooked well by now -COVID reparations, unfair trade and human right, global warming, pollution, LBGT discrimination, black holes on Sun surface ( due to exhausting sun energy by their solar panels) ,

That tactics should us give time till the end of the century- till Chinese will learn to drill tunnels across the planet to get directly from contry to country for their road and belt.
Whole world could be turned back to stone age, without Chinese merchandise, but that is the time we excel the best !


Isn't world without China lovely (again)?

Rails
QLD, 1371 posts
13 Aug 2021 5:35AM
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EU won't support war in Asia so you could be right about Africa but only as a proxy war with China

www.voanews.com/usa/china-eyes-more-bases-africa-us-military-official-says

They are are already streaming the China missile bases propaganda to get ya'all in the mood

oil for weapons that they have had going on in the Middle East and South American won't fly much longer so strategic minerals for weapons prob the next big thing

Macroscien
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13 Aug 2021 10:04AM
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Rails said..
EU won't support war in Asia so you could be right about Africa but only as a proxy war with China

www.voanews.com/usa/china-eyes-more-bases-africa-us-military-official-says

They are are already streaming the China missile bases propaganda to get ya'all in the mood

oil for weapons that they have had going on in the Middle East and South American won't fly much longer so strategic minerals for weapons prob the next big thing

We learned already that typical war against dictator doesn't' work well. Kim and Assad could remain in throne for decades.
So the best way to enter military any country and occupy is offer help to fight home grown terrorists.
There are plenty of "gun for hire "plundering Africa already.
Now all you need is to send agent with bag of gold to hire guys and go to the country of your choice.
So next war is Africa will not be called war but humanitarian support.
Goals are the sama -to enter, occupy and set right men at helm.
All we need to do is listen now.
Which African country screams now louder for help to fight hordes of raping country terrorists.
Any smart geologist could give as a clue, which African country is now abundant in easy to grab resources with easy access to ocean.
In new EV era oil is out of fashion, Gold didn't move in price as much as crypto coins, but Lithium and Copper will be handy.
Iron ore also is essential


But there is also warning for Aussie.
Choose wise next government and PM because one not compliant with external requests will be fought fiercely.
We are second on hit list here.
Luckily for us not war is needed , just one telephone call is needed to have another PM.
PS.Don't worry about Chile. Is not in any danger. Already buying F16 as we do so the ransom is paid in full.
as I demonstrated above:
enemy doesn't exist by now , yet
but soon will be created and we will be asked to participate
in the money and blood donation.
Lets choose your enemy wisely.

Macroscien
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13 Aug 2021 12:55PM
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What about Greenland? Is not much further the Falklands and could be bought , scammed of fought cheaply.
Rare treasure to find like hen tooth this days.

www.cnbc.com/2019/08/21/heres-why-trump-wants-to-buy-greenland.html?&qsearchterm=greenland

Nobody wants rare earth processing plants in their vicinity. Looks like nobody's land doesn't carry much about radioactive contamination.

www.mining-technology.com/features/eyes-on-greenland-how-global-superpowers-can-court-greenland-in-a-rare-earths-tug-of-war/

Not that country is in need of instant military occupation, but pre-emptive invasion could save it from falling into wrong hands.




Tonz
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13 Aug 2021 11:11AM
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what the **** are guys on about?
what the hell have you all been smoking?

Macroscien
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13 Aug 2021 1:26PM
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Tonz said..
what the **** are guys on about?
what the hell have you all been smoking?


just playing chess ..
I guess ...
exercise in predicting few moves in advance ?

I could guarantee that in a year from now there will be another great military conflict brewing.
And emporium will need defend itself again. surprise, surprise !

Who if could be this time that turn on the greatest power of all?

Since we will be asked to participate next day, there could be more then theoretical possibility in infinite outcomes.





actiomax
NSW, 1576 posts
13 Aug 2021 8:52PM
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We're already at war with China.
We have had cyber attacks and all our infrastructure has been infected already with Trojan viruses to allow it to be shut down curtesy of the Chinese government.
When ever they decide to do that.
We're scrambling now to catch up & fix that problem.
We also have the economic attacks buying our infrastructure and we also have trade embargo.
The Boss of the army was on tv saying this
We are at the highest level of war already without shots being fired & the next level of this war is shooting bullets .
And how we need to retrain the army because China has more special forces than we have regular troops &
our troops won't be effective without this .
I'm pretty sure they don't like the fact the economic sanctions have not been effective as we just found other markets for our exports and manufacturing has returned to Australia .
Hate to be an alarmist but if they do decide to invade there's really nothing we can do about it our allies wouldn't be able to mobilise fast enough it would all be over too fast .
And there might not be any point in retaliation from our allies if we're all dead .
If we take in the idea that corona virus is a test run to see how we react maybe a bit like the pre invasion of Normandy by the Canadian and Australian troops who were all slaughtered just to test the defence and it gives a good excuse to inoculate their population from another weaponised virus that's far deadlier under the guise of a corona vaccination .
And it does seem to point that this naturally occurring virus has been weaponised and come from China these seem to be recognised as facts .
And it could all kick off at any second especially if there's a world class action for damages against China for the corona virus and that would wipe out them economically.
The cyber attacks are at the final stage of pre invasion.
They are massive attacks
This is a very very serious situation probably more so than any other threat that has ever gone before.
I'm not saying this is going to happen but it's certainly a very very strong possibility .
I hope & pray that it doesn't come to pass .

TonyAbbott
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13 Aug 2021 8:18PM
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Maybe the Chinese Communist will be less draconian than our current political leaders.


psychojoe
WA, 2239 posts
13 Aug 2021 8:45PM
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America is strongly committed to "helping" Israel right now. I imagine that "help" will lead to the betterment of Israel and a warm fuzzy feeling for all Americans...or war, could always end in war.

Macroscien
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13 Aug 2021 11:15PM
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psychojoe said..
America is strongly committed to "helping" Israel right now. I imagine that "help" will lead to the betterment of Israel and a warm fuzzy feeling for all Americans...or war, could always end in war.







that's only could means Iran
is on your radar
To be fair it was quite easy to predict that nobody esle beside NK that have some already will be allowed to produce new nukes.

I still hope , last minute trade could be done
nukes/sanction for peace
if only both sides are smart enough.
win win for both sides.

but that serve should also strong warning to Talibanis.

If they got too far, now after west departure , whole site could be nice cleaned in one go,

eppo
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13 Aug 2021 9:26PM
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America will not openly go to war with china nor visa versa. Thats just MAD - mutually assured destruction. As been mentioned plenty of low hanging fruit for both big bears and / or to be hedged as proxy wars between them.


.. and we haven't been smoking anything - just reading - .. History. The wheels would already be in play / motion by both intelligence agencies.

Macroscien
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13 Aug 2021 11:44PM
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eppo said..
America will not openly go to war with china nor visa versa. Thats just MAD - mutually assured destruction. As been mentioned plenty of low hanging fruit for both big bears and / or to be hedged as proxy wars between them.


.. and we haven't been smoking anything - just reading - .. History. The wheels would already be in play / motion by both intelligence agencies.







that is quite funny, ( totally reasonable logic)
the only question WHY Australis is going openly into war with China?
Because it is not a MAD ??? just OSAD !! one side assured destruction ?
I am sure we could/should be smarter then that..

World may not a be a chess plate strategy,
where attack it the best defense strategy.

Unless we could prove one day that Earth is not only flat but square too !!






eppo
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13 Aug 2021 9:56PM
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Ah thats all smoke and mirrors. Im sure behind closed doors respective parties are working through the spin. "Look we gotta say something here, you guys stop importing crayfish and wine and other crap like that and while the media goes to town we can still send you the iron ore and gas and other agricultural essentials" and you keep sending us your value added consumer products".


ps a better pic would have been a toyota or better a big mitsi" truck running over a roo lol.

Macroscien
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14 Aug 2021 12:05AM
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eppo said..
Ah thats all smoke and mirrors. Im sure behind closed doors respective parties are working through the spin. "Look we gotta say something here, you guys stop importing crayfish and wine and other crap like that and while the media goes to town we can still send you the iron ore and gas and other agricultural essentials" and you keep sending us your value added consumer products".


ps a better pic would have been a toyota or better a big mitsi" truck running over a roo lol.





That could be quite unfair comparison
Great Wall4 WD 1500 kg vs 50kg Roo
30:1

1500 mln vs 24 mln
62:1
more like wallabies comes to mind




actiomax
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14 Aug 2021 8:50AM
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Australian is not going to war with China.
Macro
China is at war with us on the highest level before shots fired .
Why do people think that unless bullets are flying it's not a war ?
How many politicians got caught with there hands in Chinese pockets and wasn't new laws enacted to stop this ?
There not doing that just because they love our politicians.
Stop thinking about things from our perspective when all our plans revolve around the election cycle.
China has a 2 thousand year plan & they can stick to it because they don't have the election cycle.
I'm absolutely disgusted that this announcement from the head of the army didn't get discussed by our media talking heads & footballers in a pub brawl got more discussion.
And realistically it's not if but when & honestly it's probably going to be our own fault because of our complacency.

Macroscien
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14 Aug 2021 10:12AM
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actiomax said..
Australian is not going to war with China.
Macro
China is at war with us on the highest level before shots fired .
Why do people think that unless bullets are flying it's not a war ?
How many politicians got caught with there hands in Chinese pockets and wasn't new laws enacted to stop this ?
There not doing that just because they love our politicians.
Stop thinking about things from our perspective when all our plans revolve around the election cycle.
China has a 2 thousand year plan & they can stick to it because they don't have the election cycle.
I'm absolutely disgusted that this announcement from the head of the army didn't get discussed by our media talking heads & footballers in a pub brawl got more discussion.
And realistically it's not if but when & honestly it's probably going to be our own fault because of our complacency.



OK , lest suppose for a moment that we won .
We scared sheet of China and there are going give us everything we wanted from them;

a) they gave us back Chinese See and now you could sail out there straight from Sydney Harbor. Change anything ? For us ? Country that have already more water around then any other nation on planet?

b) we asked for 5 quadrillion dollars for Covid reparation - before even pandemic started. Ok they gave us all in hard cash. we deposited in safe bank and need to pay negative interest rate of all those mountain of cash. How are you going to pay that interest to US banks? Rise taxes here?

c )Suppose that Chinese released all our brothers and sisters living in Uguru mountain. They all can come here and do what? Set new camp at Uluru mountain? build a mosque on top?

d) they could give us back two more islands HK and Taiwan , that we could now attach to tug boat and tow to our shores. We have already plenty of beautiful islands that hardly nobody visit - Green Island.
You not even can afford to buy apartment in your possession now recovered from China. We could prove they both HK and Taiwan belongs historically to Australian land- commission in Europe could certify this, within 200 mile sea border line.
Eventually we Australian live here 60,000 years and Chinese only 20,000 there, so we are here even before dinosaurs were born.

You can't afford to pay $50,000 per square meter of their apartments and squash your family into whole 20 m2 - 6 bedroom mansion.

I am not aware of any other complains that we may have against China and they refused to comply.


|But you may have a point at one :
There are spying on us , reading SB notoriously.
But we could not spy back on them !!!!!




it looks totally encrypted for no reason for me....

we should ask Chinese now to change to something easier to decrypt





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