Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..
...The only issue is that in theory you could go for a drive, get out of the car, lose the key, get back in and continue on without noticing you lost it until you start it next time. Hardly likely though.
or....
your dumb-arse wife decides you have to drive today because ...whatever... but she puts the keys in her pocket. **** knows why, but not worth the hassle arguing.
Then she decides she wants to stop and get out and go do something (no idea what, she probably said but you weren't listening to it, probably buy some new cushions or look at some art or some ****), so you slow down, kick her out and then carry on driving.
20 minutes later you stop, nip into the servo for some chocolate milk and a cornetto and .... ****.... now you don't have the keys. They are now 20 minutes away. Your dumb-arse missus can't get back to you 'cause she don't have a vehicle and you can't get to her because she has the friggin' keys.
100% her fault.
Solution for next time - stick the spare key in the glove box, the one without the fob and at least then you can put it in the key barrel and drive the friggin stupid Elgrand.
Best solution - sell the Elgrand and get a VW and don't let the dumb bitch drive it.
Just hypothetically that is.
Select to expand quoteCarantoc said..FormulaNova said..
...The only issue is that in theory you could go for a drive, get out of the car, lose the key, get back in and continue on without noticing you lost it until you start it next time. Hardly likely though.
or....
your dumb-arse wife decides you have to drive today because ...whatever... but she puts the keys in her pocket. **** knows why, but not worth the hassle arguing.
Then she decides she wants to stop and get out and go do something (no idea what, she probably said but you weren't listening to it, probably buy some new cushions or look at some art or some ****), so you slow down, kick her out and then carry on driving.
20 minutes later you stop, nip into the servo for some chocolate milk and a cornetto and .... ****.... now you don't have the keys. They are now 20 minutes away. Your dumb-arse missus can't get back to you 'cause she don't have a vehicle and you can't get to her because she has the friggin' keys.
100% her fault.
Solution for next time - stick the spare key in the glove box, the one without the fob and at least then you can put it in the key barrel and drive the friggin stupid Elgrand.
Best solution - sell the Elgrand and get a VW and don't let the dumb bitch drive it.
Just hypothetically that is.
Why are you driving somewhere with my dumb arse wife???
(Yes, if I were you, if you still had an Elgrand, I would have the regular key on my keyring. No remote, but perfect for these dumb situations. If you want to go real low-tech, take the battery out of the fob so that it won't work and just use the key.)
Select to expand quoteNo worries, an adaptor straight into the ciggie lighter
auxiliary power supply port 
Select to expand quoteMark _australia said..
I must say I like the push button start though. Its handy to leave keys in your pocket.
Another skill that will be lost though, using the bottle opener on your beer whilst its hanging off the key set in the ignition.
Now the bottle opener is easy to get to in the centre console where I chuck the keys
Seriously... So disrespectful to the safety of other road users..
Twist tops only while driving...
