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psychojoe said..
At three years old I had a confident articulate literate numerate child, regarded as being of superior intellect by our child psychologist (friend) and suspected of being "gifted" when first meeting the school principal.
After two years in the school system I have a six year who has forgotten her times tables, has lost spelling ability, developed something of a speech impediment and accordingly has lost confidence.
I guess when it comes to home schooling it's probably more about the particular parent much like schooling is greatly affected by the individual teacher.
That's a lot of pressure for a three year old to face and then at only 6.
I can't even remember doing times tables at those ages. Do they do them that early? I would have struggled at finger painting at that age.
But for me the only thing I could suggest is that the parents need to involve themselves more with the child in learning. School is not a set and forget environment where you send your kid off to become the best they can be and its the teachers responsibility. There are so many things happening at school that anything can have an affect. For an adult to sit down and help a kid learn, it is easy. I wonder if many make the time or not.
Memory is the sort of thing that is locked in with repetition. Times tables have to be repeated enough and at regular intervals that people can memorise them without having to think at all. In fact that's the whole point. These patterns become rote and become the building blocks for the rest of their learning in maths.
Same thing with spelling. English is not as consistent as other languages, but its largely a memory thing, and memories work through repetition not being a 'super-kid'.
I can't imagine being home-schooled though. There are many things to learn at school and I am not sure being taught only at home is a good idea.
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I can't imagine being home-schooled though. There are many things to learn at school and I am not sure being taught only at home is a good idea.
There are some pretty woeful schools out there and I can understand why people wouldn't want their kids attending some of them. I know a lot of people that home school as my wife is a teacher and provides support services to them. From what I've seen, their kids turn out great, typically more mature, polite, well educated, and socially adept than your average kid. It's done by a lot more people than you probably realise and there are a lot of varied and valid reasons that people do it. There are plenty of ways for kids to socialise with other kids, whether it be sports, scouts, etc. and many home schooling groups run regular sports and excursions together. Ironically, one family we know that home schooled their son did so because of the lack of socialisation he was getting at school since most of the kids at the school came from a particular cultural background that values academic achievement so much that all they ever did was study and wouldn't socialise at all. Also, the lord of the flies environment in some schools is atrocious and the number of people that end up with negative life-affecting psychological conditions as a result of their schooling is not insignificant. We haven't home schooled ourselves, although one of my kids was at a pretty poor high school, (teachers not knowing the kid's names, some teachers regularly turning up 20 minutes late to class, if at all), drugs, general misbehaviour, and poor education, so if we couldn't have afforded the private school fees to move her out we would have considered it as an option.
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I can't imagine being home-schooled though. There are many things to learn at school and I am not sure being taught only at home is a good idea.
There are some pretty woeful schools out there and I can understand why people wouldn't want their kids attending some of them. I know a lot of people that home school as my wife is a teacher and provides support services to them. From what I've seen, their kids turn out great, typically more mature, polite, well educated, and socially adept than your average kid. It's done by a lot more people than you probably realise and there are a lot of varied and valid reasons that people do it. There are plenty of ways for kids to socialise with other kids, whether it be sports, scouts, etc. and many home schooling groups run regular sports and excursions together. Ironically, one family we know that home schooled their son did so because of the lack of socialisation he was getting at school since most of the kids at the school came from a particular cultural background that values academic achievement so much that all they ever did was study and wouldn't socialise at all. Also, the lord of the flies environment in some schools is atrocious and the number of people that end up with negative life-affecting psychological conditions as a result of their schooling is not insignificant. We haven't home schooled ourselves, although one of my kids was at a pretty poor high school, (teachers not knowing the kid's names, some teachers regularly turning up 20 minutes late to class, if at all), drugs, general misbehaviour, and poor education, so if we couldn't have afforded the private school fees to move her out we would have considered it as an option.
Yeah. I can sympathise. I went to a high school that was a bit rough. I think drugs weren't much of a problem though as everyone was too poor to afford them.
As a rougher school we seemed to attract a mix of devoted good teachers and terrible teachers. We had a principal that didn't know the names of kids, so much so that he informed me at a school certificate presentation that he wanted to see me in his office for a problem that another student with the same surname had caused. Clearly he had no idea who anyone was, but that's what we got.
I also agree with the pschological problems as someone recently was telling me about the problems he had with this at school.
I guess you are right and socialising should be okay and today the internet probably makes it even easier.
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..Harrow said..FormulaNova said..
I can't imagine being home-schooled though. There are many things to learn at school and I am not sure being taught only at home is a good idea.
There are some pretty woeful schools out there and I can understand why people wouldn't want their kids attending some of them. I know a lot of people that home school as my wife is a teacher and provides support services to them. From what I've seen, their kids turn out great, typically more mature, polite, well educated, and socially adept than your average kid. It's done by a lot more people than you probably realise and there are a lot of varied and valid reasons that people do it. There are plenty of ways for kids to socialise with other kids, whether it be sports, scouts, etc. and many home schooling groups run regular sports and excursions together. Ironically, one family we know that home schooled their son did so because of the lack of socialisation he was getting at school since most of the kids at the school came from a particular cultural background that values academic achievement so much that all they ever did was study and wouldn't socialise at all. Also, the lord of the flies environment in some schools is atrocious and the number of people that end up with negative life-affecting psychological conditions as a result of their schooling is not insignificant. We haven't home schooled ourselves, although one of my kids was at a pretty poor high school, (teachers not knowing the kid's names, some teachers regularly turning up 20 minutes late to class, if at all), drugs, general misbehaviour, and poor education, so if we couldn't have afforded the private school fees to move her out we would have considered it as an option.
Yeah. I can sympathise. I went to a high school that was a bit rough. I think drugs weren't much of a problem though as everyone was too poor to afford them.
As a rougher school we seemed to attract a mix of devoted good teachers and terrible teachers. We had a principal that didn't know the names of kids, so much so that he informed me at a school certificate presentation that he wanted to see me in his office for a problem that another student with the same surname had caused. Clearly he had no idea who anyone was, but that's what we got.
I also agree with the pschological problems as someone recently was telling me about the problems he had with this at school.
I guess you are right and socialising should be okay and today the internet probably makes it even easier.
No way!
FN actually admits defeat.
Must be a glitch.
Maybe we need more media claiming that our school system is great.
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I also agree with the pschological problems as someone recently was telling me about the problems he had with this at school.
Yeah, I've been amazed at the number of times that I've run into someone I hadn't seen since leaving school and when I start to reminisce, they then tell me what a horrible time they had at school, how much they hated it and how it has affected them, when I would never have guessed they had a problem at all. One guy I ran into on the local train station a couple years ago refused to admit that he ever attended my school, pretending he wasn't who I thought he was. It was totally bizarre, since we got on pretty well at school. I mentioned it to my wife and she said, "I know his wife, he hated his time at school so much that he refuses to talk about it or acknowledge it."
One of my daughters works in youth and young adult mental health and says she hears these stories every day.
This girl was raised by wolves........FN 
www.msn.com/en-au/video/news/girl-raised-by-wolves-shorts/vi-zywNI5C7vVMJMw?vid=fDE2sAwU6mw&provider=yt&ocid=msedgntp
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Tequila, ok, my daughter, and Dutchman's two mates aren't dead. Their lives, however, have been dramatically affected. None of them appear in any official public vaccination statistics.
What is your response to the recent statements made by the former president of the Australian Medical Association, Dr. Kerryn Phelps? Is she a CT?
www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/ask-ahpra-dr-kerryn-phelps-doesnt-know-why-regulator-silenced-doctors-on-vaccine-injuries/news-story/a731a655120649f913c8170bfbf1bb96
"Within minutes of having the vaccine, [Jackie] had a quite severe reaction with numbness of the hands and feet, tingling all over her body, her head feeling like it was going to explode [with] pain. And then over the weeks and months following that, the condition continued.'
FN - could well be Long Covid
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What is your response to the recent statements made by the former president of the Australian Medical Association, Dr. Kerryn Phelps? Is she a CT?
www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/ask-ahpra-dr-kerryn-phelps-doesnt-know-why-regulator-silenced-doctors-on-vaccine-injuries/news-story/a731a655120649f913c8170bfbf1bb96
Damn, she's gone full anti-vax conspiracy theorist?
Hopefully she gets censored and cancelled, it's offensive that she questions the science.
Reality is a great teacher.Just shows how panic and hysteria cause bad policy decisions.
They played upon fear no two ways about it.
On a positive - big pharma and big everything have now lost their air of honesty for many.
Biggest liars this world has ever known and some.
In response to Dr Phelps revelation, Crikey website has reported today that anti-vaxxers are silencing people who have been injured by the Covid vaccine.
Haha, wtf...you can't make this shiit up.
www.crikey.com.au/2022/12/21/vaccine-safety-side-effects-covid-1
I don't imagine Kerryn Phelps has a Vaxxed and proud frame on her Facebook profile picture, I find them exceedingly offensive
She says she researched the jabs, so did she, did she believe lies, did she fail to read between the lines, is she a lot older than she looks.
No matter which way you look at it, this person who is more than qualified to make decisions about the health of all Australians failed miserably, couldn't even protect her own family and we're all forced to rely on lesser people for our advice.
Who's going to miss the good old days, when you were labeled an 'Anti-Vax Conspiracy Theorist Idiot'. What can we be called now?
I'll miss that name.... oh well, I guess it was fun while it lasted.
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What is your response to the recent statements made by the former president of the Australian Medical Association, Dr. Kerryn Phelps? Is she a CT?
Let Sean Penn answer your question Harrow.
You antivax CT nutters make me sick. We have two young police officers and a neighbour murdered here in Queensland by you lot and you continue to spread you crap.
Have some respect, god I hope none of you have no access to firearms.
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You antivax CT nutters make me sick. We have two young police officers and a neighbour murdered here in Queensland by you lot and you continue to spread you crap.
Have some respect, god I hope none of you have no access to firearms.
Twice a week a woman dies at the hands of her partner. Yes it's sad one someone wanting to get even with the government takes it out on public servants but if you're not mourning the death of defenceless women then why are you virtue signalling over he death of people knowingly entering dangerous situations with loaded firearms in their hands.
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You antivax CT nutters make me sick. We have two young police officers and a neighbour murdered here in Queensland by you lot and you continue to spread you crap.
Have some respect, god I hope none of you have no access to firearms.
With all due respect airsail, that's a bit of a long bow to blame all unvaxxed people who have questioned whether the Covid jab is detrimental to their health with the murders of police officers by a nutter. Does that mean that the other 95% of murders & crimes that occurred this year by people who happened to be Covid vaxxed is associated with you or anyone else that are vaxxed? Of course not.
The killer Gareth Train identified as a fundamentalist Christian and wanted to build an Ark for the coming flood. He believed in demons and devils. He hated police & government. His neighbour thinks he was on ice. He obviously had many twisted ideas and was deranged.
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You antivax CT nutters make me sick. We have two young police officers and a neighbour murdered here in Queensland by you lot and you continue to spread you crap.
Have some respect, god I hope none of you have no access to firearms.
There are people here who's lives have been ruined because they took a vaccine that they were told was safe to prevent the spread of the virus. Now we see that the vaccine has not stopped the virus being transmitted, but even worse, it has been revealed that there wasn't even any testing done to show whether or not it would. Also, the significant negative health impacts the vaccine has had on many people are acknowledged by medical bodies globally and the Australian government has instigated a compensation scheme for them.
Which part of that is 'crap' or CT and what does discussing it have to do with murdered police officers?
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...virtue signalling over he death of people knowingly entering dangerous situations with loaded firearms in their hands.
I think its important to remember that those people with loaded firearms are protecting us from the bad people in society. They are not running around unnecesarily threatening people. I am sure people feel sorry for people killed in domestic violence, but when someone dies in service of protecting us it deserves a bit more respect.
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Now we see that the vaccine has not stopped the virus being transmitted, but even worse, it has been revealed that there wasn't even any testing done to show whether or not it would. Also, the significant negative health impacts the vaccine has had on many people are acknowledged by medical bodies globally and the Australian government has instigated a compensation scheme for them.
Which part of that is 'crap' or CT and what does discussing it have to do with murdered police officers?
Is it really true that the vaccinations have not stopped the virus being transmitted, whether or not we are talking about testing?
I would agree that the vaccinations are targetted towards a strain that predates Omicron, but I am not sure I agree that it does not affect the virus being transmitted or infecting people.
I may know soon anyway. I was at an event last night and spent a bit of time talking directly to someone that has now tested positive to Covid. If I don't get it, does that prove anything at all?
If I can answer for Airsail about the link to the murdered police officers, the people that gunned them down were confimed conspiracy theorists and believed that Covid/Vaccination was part of the changing of the world. They felt they were in some sort of war which is why they attacked them unprovoked. I suspect that taking meth was part of their problem where they became even more trapped in their own made-up reality, so I would agree its not good to spread this sort of rubbish.
I get mystified when people claim there is a new world order that is going to do things, yet this NWO seemingly lets people do more or less what they want.
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Is it really true that the vaccinations have not stopped the virus being transmitted......
{ insert startrek face palm meme }
Yes it is really true.
The people who said it was true 18 months ago still say it is true.
But now the people who make and sell it say it is true.
And the people who test it and regulate it say its true.
And the media who didn't question if it was true now question why they didn't question if it was true.
Yet...... FN still believes what he was told 18 months ago. Maybe another 18 months and you'll catch up ?
You must really fit in in WA FN.
I'll put it simply FN. Not that you'll ever accept it.
The covid vax does not stop you catching covid
The covid vax does not stop you transmitting covid
You having the vax does nothing to protect anyone around you.
You having or not having the vax makes no difference to anyone else.
The Covid vax does not, and has never, "vaccinated" anyone, anything or any society against covid.
A few people said that 18 months ago. Now lots of people ate saying it. Like ex-presidents of the AMA and the CEO's of the companies that made the vax.
(also nothing nefarious about it, just incompetance and ****-wittedary of the highest political level).
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..psychojoe said..
...virtue signalling over he death of people knowingly entering dangerous situations with loaded firearms in their hands.
I think its important to remember that those people with loaded firearms are protecting us from the bad people in society. They are not running around unnecesarily threatening people. I am sure people feel sorry for people killed in domestic violence, but when someone dies in service of protecting us it deserves a bit more respect.
Injuring healthy young people matters less than the severity of old people getting colds.
Defenceless women and children are less important than police, got it.
Got any more tips, I'll just jot them down.
Slightly incorrect, Carantoc.
The jabs did elicit antibodies against the Wuhan wild type virus, so some of the people who were infected before the vaccine was made may have benefited.
Only accepting responses from those who are aware of how often flu vaccines are updated.
