I would not invest more money in F-one fct unless you get it insanely cheap used. I started on gravity and it's a garbage foil compared to the current market. It will be much easier to learn on newer gear. The used market is full of great stuff from a year or two ago from many brands
@miamiwngr I'm only looking for used - no bites yet. There aren't many places to go to be honest. Phantom is the only one. I see they got adapter now so I can keep the mast etc. However, I will most likely use this to get my friends into the sport.
If you're always instantly on foil, then the 5m plus 1800 foil means you're probably overpowered. Trying the 4m is a great idea, I way prefer my 4m over my 5m.
Long due update.
I got to demo the MA v2 front foils and Glide 220 tail.
I'm right now getting on foil with MA 890 in 15-18kn wind with 4.0m wing - no problem. Even this foil is set all the way down to number 3 on my board. The MA 990 had to be pushed back to 1.5 and it was still to big for anything over 20kn. The 990 has basically the same lift as Gravity 1800 except that it can glide and I can actually turn.
I had 3-4 sessions thus far and I managed to do 2 complete gybes. The MA foils are such improvement for gybes, it's scary.
I even tried MA790 which works as well, but I find it somewhat weird. Maybe it's due to the super large tail (Glide 220).
Select to expand quoteShaping3263 said..
Long due update.
I got to demo the MA v2 front foils and Glide 220 tail.
I'm right now getting on foil with MA 890 in 15-18kn wind with 4.0m wing - no problem. Even this foil is set all the way down to number 3 on my board. The MA 990 had to be pushed back to 1.5 and it was still to big for anything over 20kn. The 990 has basically the same lift as Gravity 1800 except that it can glide and I can actually turn.
I had 3-4 sessions thus far and I managed to do 2 complete gybes. The MA foils are such improvement for gybes, it's scary.
I even tried MA790 which works as well, but I find it somewhat weird. Maybe it's due to the super large tail (Glide 220).
Get the 170 or 180 tail asap :-)
The 220 is too big for those foils, especially if you have a bit of wind (eg. 12+ kn). (I only use the 220 with the HA1180 in 8-12kn)
it will take 1-2 sessions to get used to it but way more fun. More speed, more glide, more gybes :-)
Select to expand quotekiwiupover said..Shaping3263 said..
Long due update.
I got to demo the MA v2 front foils and Glide 220 tail.
No I'm right now getting on foil with MA 890 in 15-18kn wind with 4.0m wing - no problem. Even this foil is set all the way down to number 3 on my board. The MA 990 had to be pushed back to 1.5 and it was still to big for anything over 20kn. The 990 has basically the same lift as Gravity 1800 except that it can glide and I can actually turn.
I had 3-4 sessions thus far and I managed to do 2 complete gybes. The MA foils are such improvement for gybes, it's scary.
I even tried MA790 which works as well, but I find it somewhat weird. Maybe it's due to the super large tail (Glide 220).
Get the 170 or 180 tail asap :-)
The 220 is too big for those foils, especially if you have a bit of wind (eg. 12+ kn). (I only use the 220 with the HA1180 in 8-12kn)
And it will take 1-2 sessions to get used to it but way more fun. More speed, more glide, more gybes :-)
I got the 180 - no issues getting used to it! First session was great. In fact way more fun than 220!
One thing that I'm confused about is that even with 890+180 I still need to put my mast around 3-4 mark. I've seen people put masts all the way forward but for me that would be way too much lift. Is my stance wrong? Should I be using my front foot way more?
every setup and everybody is different. i typically put my mast as far back as it will go. experiment with your positioning and use what works for you.
Select to expand quoteShaping3263 said..kiwiupover said..Shaping3263 said..
Long due update.
I got to demo the MA v2 front foils and Glide 220 tail.
No I'm right now getting on foil with MA 890 in 15-18kn wind with 4.0m wing - no problem. Even this foil is set all the way down to number 3 on my board. The MA 990 had to be pushed back to 1.5 and it was still to big for anything over 20kn. The 990 has basically the same lift as Gravity 1800 except that it can glide and I can actually turn.
I had 3-4 sessions thus far and I managed to do 2 complete gybes. The MA foils are such improvement for gybes, it's scary.
I even tried MA790 which works as well, but I find it somewhat weird. Maybe it's due to the super large tail (Glide 220).
Get the 170 or 180 tail asap :-)
The 220 is too big for those foils, especially if you have a bit of wind (eg. 12+ kn). (I only use the 220 with the HA1180 in 8-12kn)
And it will take 1-2 sessions to get used to it but way more fun. More speed, more glide, more gybes :-)
I got the 180 - no issues getting used to it! First session was great. In fact way more fun than 220!
One thing that I'm confused about is that even with 890+180 I still need to put my mast around 3-4 mark. I've seen people put masts all the way forward but for me that would be way too much lift. Is my stance wrong? Should I be using my front foot way more?
Awesome. The 180 is fun. If you do get a big foil, the 220 is a great tail for low wind/small wave conditions. I've had lots of fun sessions on my 1180/220!
Mast position is very personal. If you can, get someone to take video of you on foil so you can actually compare your stance to other good riders on youtube. Or, ask some better riders what they think of your stance eg. Do they think you look balanced.
As you get better, change foils and tails, change boards, etc. etc. etc. you will find yourself adjusting the mast forwards/backwards based on what you're feeling.
