Still impressive man. Let's face it once on the foil, that body weight differential becomes far less of a factor. I was out on the 4.8 (I'm 77kg) the other day ... was a gusty day and sort of marginal at times - but then she'd hit 20 odd knots and some. Was good to have that enormous wind range on tap and just use that extra wind to crank upwind with speed.
I've seen a few photos of PPC wings with windows floating around. Anybody know if there is a new Surge v2 coming, or otherwise know the situation with this windowed wing? Are there any known changes other than the window?
For what its worth, I don't really care for a window, but I am interested to know whether there is a further refined version of the Surge coming.
According to PPC instagram account they stated that only change is added windows and no V2 moniker is warranted. Think this was stated on a story so can't find link.
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... it feels like the air rushing over the top of the leading edge creates downward pressure, when holding the wing at certain angles when overpowered!
The unit for example has a decent low end. But the top end of its range you quickly get what I call blow back because that is what it feels like to me. Is that because of the more dihedral design and it's massive leading edge on the unit. I'm no engineer. Makes it a real struggle to go upwind - but doesn't matter all that much downwind.
but the ppc (and I've ridden both extensively) not only goes earlier because it's more even more direct but doesn't have same blow back at it's top end. Hence range much greater.
is that because of its flatter shape, and much smaller leading edge (as you can put 8-9 psi into the separated leading edge and strut which creates are far more rigid shape). Flatter analogous to a higher aspect kite allowing it to drive further up into the window without pulling you downwind ...
as I said I'm no engineer.
but in my opinion it's a better wing than the unit and the unit is a great wing. Plus it's construction is far more robust - looks like it may last more than a season.
What you're describing about the unit is called "back wind" and it's horrible! Despite the good quality materials the unit isn't a good wing.
PPC looks good but I would love to hear someone who had the chance to compare PPC against Smick. The Smick being my favourite wing so far.
Are the PPC handles bendy?
I wouldn't call the unit a bad wing. Not sure why you are always so black and white about things. Like your silly comment on how many Armstrong foils will be sold this year due to fuse wing connection wearing. Ive had many great sessions on the unit and so have others I ride with.
And it floats really nice flagged out. You also learn to manage the blow back as I call it - but even that is hardly an issue when doing long downwinders and or within its useable wind range. It's not horrible by any stretch if you've used one for any length of time.
PPC does handle itself better in its upper wind for sure. It's build will also well outlast either the unit or smick. But flagging out takes some adjustment, not much but some.
pros and cons. But to say the unit is a horrible wing ... well that's just straight out naive.
Smick wing is a really good wing for sure. I'd love a sneaky 3.5m for nuking downwinders. 
agreed
