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Parawing Packing Comparison - Pocket Rocket 3.6 vs Gong Plus V1 4.0

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Created by scheggia A week ago, 8 Dec 2025
BWalnut
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Thursday , 11 Dec 2025 2:42PM
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BWalnut said..
4 hours today. 80km. No tangles.



Legs of steel man. Great effort.
low 40's is my limit. My poor old legs just burn from all the carving. It hurts more than pumping on the DW sup.

Are you still doing the same pack technique as your video? I have started just grabbing the 4 centre lines again and quickly going for a second take with my pinky to get the last two outside front A lines to remove the cinch step. It seems to be working better on my 3.6 and just cinch on the 2.4 and 3 as its easy.

How far are you surfing DW each time? I seem to sit between 1.5 and 3.5k.


Thanks! The last 5k was a grind. Wind got light and swell got soft but otherwise I had tons of fun.
At this spot the full runs are 4-5km but I only do that when the swell is good the whole way (it was today). I try to do a minimum 2-3km for my short runs.
Still doing the exact same pack down:

I'm meticulous through 4:05. That's done perfect every time. The gathering of the trailing edge and roll up though, that can be sloppy and fast. Doesn't seem to cause tangles if the start is done perfectly.

AnyBoard
NSW, 371 posts
Thursday , 11 Dec 2025 7:04PM
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eppo said..

AnyBoard said..



BWalnut said..
4 hours today. 80km. No tangles.





Legs of steel man. Great effort.
low 40's is my limit. My poor old legs just burn from all the carving. It hurts more than pumping on the DW sup.

Are you still doing the same pack technique as your video? I have started just grabbing the 4 centre lines again and quickly going for a second take with my pinky to get the last two outside front A lines to remove the cinch step. It seems to be working better on my 3.6 and just cinch on the 2.4 and 3 as its easy.

How far are you surfing DW each time? I seem to sit between 1.5 and 3.5k.




You weren't asking me but yeh i run the lines over my palm again to take all line slack up..

Then i put bar over back of leading edge and transfer those bunch up lines to that hand . (so im holding the lines, back of leading edge all in one hand.

Then constatina the leading up up to the bar - then a few on the other side

Slight twist as i grab the trailing edge fold over up the the leading edge then just some quick adjustments

In the pouch and "go you good thing".


Can normally have this done by the end of the first runner - sometimes need to pause and find a bit of power to complete.


Yes am interested. Very nice.
How long are you guys covering in a session of upwind downwind fun?

eppo
WA, 9686 posts
Thursday , 11 Dec 2025 7:48PM
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BWalnut said..


AnyBoard said..



BWalnut said..
4 hours today. 80km. No tangles.





Legs of steel man. Great effort.
low 40's is my limit. My poor old legs just burn from all the carving. It hurts more than pumping on the DW sup.

Are you still doing the same pack technique as your video? I have started just grabbing the 4 centre lines again and quickly going for a second take with my pinky to get the last two outside front A lines to remove the cinch step. It seems to be working better on my 3.6 and just cinch on the 2.4 and 3 as its easy.

How far are you surfing DW each time? I seem to sit between 1.5 and 3.5k.




Thanks! The last 5k was a grind. Wind got light and swell got soft but otherwise I had tons of fun.
At this spot the full runs are 4-5km but I only do that when the swell is good the whole way (it was today). I try to do a minimum 2-3km for my short runs.
Still doing the exact same pack down:

I'm meticulous through 4:05. That's done perfect every time. The gathering of the trailing edge and roll up though, that can be sloppy and fast. Doesn't seem to cause tangles if the start is done perfectly.



Cool ideas will add some into my stow method - awesome. Just did a 50km DW run - 20km through some god awful weed but it cleaned up. Hence a ton of starts, packing and redeploys to just sail through the weed . I did have a stack, ran through my lines and had one wrapped around my foil - was a bloody tangled mess when i got back on the board but sorted it eventually - user error for sure !!






BWalnut
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Friday , 11 Dec 2025 11:07PM
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20km through weeds would be brutal. Good job pushing through. We're getting a ton of rain/flooding right now so the river has areas that are getting choked with trees flushing down from the mountains so some spots start to feel a bit dicey with how much of a risk it is to be out there.

Shlogger
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Friday , 12 Dec 2025 12:41AM
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Minor complaints resolved !!! We have the new PowerPack. ;)

eppo
WA, 9686 posts
Friday , 12 Dec 2025 8:34AM
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Minor complaints resolved !!! We have the new PowerPack. ;)


Be interesting see how it goes starting in those marginal conditions - i know from the lower aspect D Flow is has. ore initial grunt - but then the power can suddenly drop out especially if you running into the swell runners coming at you. The higher aspect PR builds its own apparent wind when you couple it with correct pumping of the board - generating its own speed to get up on foil.

eppo
WA, 9686 posts
Friday , 12 Dec 2025 8:36AM
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20km through weeds would be brutal. Good job pushing through. We're getting a ton of rain/flooding right now so the river has areas that are getting choked with trees flushing down from the mountains so some spots start to feel a bit dicey with how much of a risk it is to be out there.



been going through your stow technique - have a question though regarding establishing the anchor point , with collapsed leading edge battens - because i won't know this until im on the water.

How collapsible are these battens given your technique when the para is full of wind even with all the A lines pulled in and the following slack take up of the rest of these lines ?

BWalnut
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Friday , 12 Dec 2025 9:33AM
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How collapsible are these battens given your technique when the para is full of wind even with all the A lines pulled in and the following slack take up of the rest of these lines ?


Once you've drawn the A lines in to de-power the PR it's quite easy to collapse the battens together. Riders who use the larger sizes have reported to me that the 4-A's collapse works best to start, then the battens come together from there. I use the 3m and smaller, 6 A collapse, stroke the central lines in, then snatch the battens together. Pretty mindless after practicing in your house for about 50 rounds.

hilly
WA, 7854 posts
Friday , 12 Dec 2025 1:56PM
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BWalnut said. Pretty mindless after practicing in your house for about 50 rounds.


Haha you need a hobby. Oh you have one

I need to practice my stow is a ****show

scheggia
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Friday , 12 Dec 2025 3:04PM
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Shlogger said..
Minor complaints resolved !!! We have the new PowerPack. ;)


It looks like I wasn't the only one who noticed the issues with the PR.

BWalnut
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Friday , 12 Dec 2025 3:06PM
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hilly said..

BWalnut said. Pretty mindless after practicing in your house for about 50 rounds.



Haha you need a hobby. Oh you have one

I need to practice my stow is a ****show



Throw a movie or podcast on and just repack over and over again without looking at the wing for 30 minutes to an hour and you'll be locked in!

eppo
WA, 9686 posts
Friday , 12 Dec 2025 8:14PM
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eppo said..


How collapsible are these battens given your technique when the para is full of wind even with all the A lines pulled in and the following slack take up of the rest of these lines ?



Once you've drawn the A lines in to de-power the PR it's quite easy to collapse the battens together. Riders who use the larger sizes have reported to me that the 4-A's collapse works best to start, then the battens come together from there. I use the 3m and smaller, 6 A collapse, stroke the central lines in, then snatch the battens together. Pretty mindless after practicing in your house for about 50 rounds.


Yeh was trying it on a 4.3m today and pulling the front 4 works best . infact on the water it's quite hard to pull all 6. Did a 25km DW and chickened out and went back to my normal method . need to practise it more lol.

Velocicraptor
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Friday , 12 Dec 2025 10:22PM
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eppo said..

BWalnut said..





eppo said..



How collapsible are these battens given your technique when the para is full of wind even with all the A lines pulled in and the following slack take up of the rest of these lines ?




Once you've drawn the A lines in to de-power the PR it's quite easy to collapse the battens together. Riders who use the larger sizes have reported to me that the 4-A's collapse works best to start, then the battens come together from there. I use the 3m and smaller, 6 A collapse, stroke the central lines in, then snatch the battens together. Pretty mindless after practicing in your house for about 50 rounds.



Yeh was trying it on a 4.3m today and pulling the front 4 works best . infact on the water it's quite hard to pull all 6. Did a 25km DW and chickened out and went back to my normal method . need to practise it more lol.


Agreed. On the 3m you can collapse with all the A lines, but on the 4.3, if there is ANY power in the wing it really doesn't work and you need to pull the center 4. Gathering the battens is no problem on land, but due to the slippery fabric, when I gather the battens on foil it always gets much sloppier than I'd like. Even if its 80%, the redeploy seems to work fine.

I'm liking my 9" shortened lines on the 4.3. I did the temporary shortening method and the rigging looks janky, but I'm still happy with how it flies and it does make the stow easier. I may eventually bite the bullet and permanently shorten them.



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