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Anyone can share the board weights, pretty please? I'm esp. interested in the 60L (or perhaps 72L), but as a reference I guess any board size weight would do.
Much appreciated :)
Hi OMG, the 60Ls are about 10.5lbs
Interested in these, I ride x on short period waves. I ride an 80l takuma and 60l amos nitro. I need to get going quickly to get through on shore waves and downwind current quickly. Just thinking longer and slimmer will help here, I'm 80kg, should I keep my 80l and get a 60l flux or get rid of both for the 72l?
Mike
Select to expand quoteMikedubs said..
Interested in these, I ride x on short period waves. I ride an 80l takuma and 60l amos nitro. I need to get going quickly to get through on shore waves and downwind current quickly. Just thinking longer and slimmer will help here, I'm 80kg, should I keep my 80l and get a 60l flux or get rid of both for the 72l?
Mike
I'd say get rid of both and get the 72. I'm around 90Kg and that's my one board quiver currently.
Select to expand quoteburchas said..Mikedubs said..
Interested in these, I ride x on short period waves. I ride an 80l takuma and 60l amos nitro. I need to get going quickly to get through on shore waves and downwind current quickly. Just thinking longer and slimmer will help here, I'm 80kg, should I keep my 80l and get a 60l flux or get rid of both for the 72l?
Mike
I'd say get rid of both and get the 72. I'm around 90Kg and that's my one board quiver currently.
me too
Select to expand quoteburchas said..Mikedubs said..
Interested in these, I ride x on short period waves. I ride an 80l takuma and 60l amos nitro. I need to get going quickly to get through on shore waves and downwind current quickly. Just thinking longer and slimmer will help here, I'm 80kg, should I keep my 80l and get a 60l flux or get rid of both for the 72l?
Mike
I'd say get rid of both and get the 72. I'm around 90Kg and that's my one board quiver currently.
im now about 85kg (i guess 90kg in depths of winter with 5mm wetty an hood and boots) and ride a Fanatic 95 (5'4 x 26) ...but looking for a new board...i was looking at a fanatic /duotone 85 (5'1 x 24.5") but im now curious if im missing something with these narrow DW inspired type boards
note i have no interest in sup foiling or DW - i just want to wing in waves..i already have lots of Sup surf boards etc), and im very sceptical about the application of these 8ft DW boards for winging (only) unless you leave in 5kts areas.
So Burchas - do you find the 72 l Omen big enough....as your alround board?
Are you saying that a 85 litre 5'1 x 25" board, has essentially the same stability and float (even in waves and chop) as a 75l 5'10 x 22 inch board??
Here in the UK there was a big trend a couple of years ago to go small and under body weight (kg - litres) in volume but the last 12 mths i think people are going back to body weight +/- 5 or so, as we get gusty winds and often very light on the inside / between waves etc....it is definatley not like maui or West oz trade winds ....its too inconsistent and cold to ride sinkers!So given this, and say winging in 12-30 kts, what size omen d you suggest...still the 72 or would 84 be a safer bet?
Cheers for the feedback!
Select to expand quotenorthy1 said..burchas said..Mikedubs said..
Interested in these, I ride x on short period waves. I ride an 80l takuma and 60l amos nitro. I need to get going quickly to get through on shore waves and downwind current quickly. Just thinking longer and slimmer will help here, I'm 80kg, should I keep my 80l and get a 60l flux or get rid of both for the 72l?
Mike
I'd say get rid of both and get the 72. I'm around 90Kg and that's my one board quiver currently.
im now about 85kg (i guess 90kg in depths of winter with 5mm wetty an hood and boots) and ride a Fanatic 95 (5'4 x 26) ...but looking for a new board...i was looking at a fanatic /duotone 85 (5'1 x 24.5") but im now curious if im missing something with these narrow DW inspired type boards
note i have no interest in sup foiling or DW - i just want to wing in waves..i already have lots of Sup surf boards etc), and im very sceptical about the application of these 8ft DW boards for winging (only) unless you leave in 5kts areas.
So Burchas - do you find the 72 l Omen big enough....as your alround board?
Are you saying that a 85 litre 5'1 x 25" board, has essentially the same stability and float (even in waves and chop) as a 75l 5'10 x 22 inch board??
Here in the UK there was a big trend a couple of years ago to go small and under body weight (kg - litres) in volume but the last 12 mths i think people are going back to body weight +/- 5 or so, as we get gusty winds and often very light on the inside / between waves etc....it is definatley not like maui or West oz trade winds ....its too inconsistent and cold to ride sinkers!So given this, and say winging in 12-30 kts, what size omen d you suggest...still the 72 or would 84 be a safer bet?
Cheers for the feedback!
The 84 would be a safer bet. When I have inconstant wind out in the ocean it definitely makes it more challenging.
It's doable but more draining, especially when I want to practice stuff and need to get back a lot.
That the extra volume could save a lot of frustration in any big chop conditions when the wind is often under 15kts.
The fore and aft stability and the acceleration of that shape off the waves is very refreshing.
I sold the 84L to my friend who's 75kg and every now and again I make him switch with me on a pretense that I want to test something
@ Burchas thanks for the info you are providing on the Omen Flux board.
How stable is the 84l flux at 5.11 x 21.5 for getting up on feet in big chop, say compared to, for example, an 83l standard shape board eg 83l appleslice 5' x 24.5 board? (I'm 93kgs).
I can imagine it does plane earlier but how is the stability for getting up on feet? (Using Stinkbug).
Thanks
Not having ridden any of the larger Omen boards at 90 kgs plus 5mm wetsuit, I can only extrapolate that the positive aspects of the 60L (ability to accelerate quickly and stabilize itself moving forward) would be even more pronounced on the 72 or 84. The shape and weights allow you to ride a smaller board without many of the penalties you might have otherwise IMHO. I wouldn't let the longer lengths be a turn-off either since they are so light. I ride a 72L KT Ginxu that is a ton of fun and super compact, but it requires a little more balance and technique to start since the volume is mostly in the nose, I'm fairly tall too at 6'5" or 198 cm so a longer board requires less scrunching up into a ball when stink-bug starting. A longer, more evenly distributed volume in a less pitch unstable, longer length seen in the Omen would feel more comfortable to start even though it seems so narrow. The narrowness allows you to ankle steer better and somehow in flight it doesn't feel unstable side to side. I'm nearly convinced most wing boards will move in this direction.
Not having ridden any of the larger Omen boards at 90 kgs plus 5mm wetsuit, I can only extrapolate that the positive aspects of the 60L (ability to accelerate quickly and stabilize itself moving forward) would be even more pronounced on the 72 or 84. The shape and weights allow you to ride a smaller board without many of the penalties you might have otherwise IMHO. I wouldn't let the longer lengths be a turn-off either since they are so light. I ride a 72L KT Ginxu that is a ton of fun and super compact, but it requires a little more balance and technique to start since the volume is mostly in the nose, I'm fairly tall too at 6'5" or 198 cm so a longer board requires less scrunching up into a ball when stink-bug starting. A longer, more evenly distributed volume in a less pitch unstable, longer length seen in the Omen would feel more comfortable to start even though it seems so narrow. The narrowness allows you to ankle steer better and somehow in flight it doesn't feel unstable side to side. I'm nearly convinced most wave-riding and free ride oriented wing boards will move in this design direction. Perhaps the compact/wider designs are better for freestyle and landing tricks?
I moved to an omen 84l from a fanatic sky wing 75l 5x24. It's often light where I ride and I sometimes felt like I needed more volume on the fanatic. I'm 80kg. The omen rides like a smaller board than the fanatic despite being 9l bigger. I think partly because the foil box is further forward, but also the narrower width gives me better roll axis control, which contributes to the feeling of being on a smaller board. The omen also weighs less.
That being said, I'm not sure I need the additional volume with the omen board shape. I probably would have been fine with the 72l or maybe even the 60l.
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@ Burchas thanks for the info you are providing on the Omen Flux board.
How stable is the 84l flux at 5.11 x 21.5 for getting up on feet in big chop, say compared to, for example, an 83l standard shape board eg 83l appleslice 5' x 24.5 board? (I'm 93kgs).
I can imagine it does plane earlier but how is the stability for getting up on feet? (Using Stinkbug).
Thanks
If your technic is on point and you're properly powered it would be just as easy to get up. Compering the Flux 72 Vs Slingshot wing craft v1 75 (5'x25") for my 90kg. Stability was never an issue for me switching to the Flux, the extra length makes is very forgiving.
If you time getting up from stink bug right off the bump you'll be up almost instantly.
Select to expand quotenorthy1 said..burchas said..Mikedubs said..
Interested in these, I ride x on short period waves. I ride an 80l takuma and 60l amos nitro. I need to get going quickly to get through on shore waves and downwind current quickly. Just thinking longer and slimmer will help here, I'm 80kg, should I keep my 80l and get a 60l flux or get rid of both for the 72l?
Mike
I'd say get rid of both and get the 72. I'm around 90Kg and that's my one board quiver currently.
im now about 85kg (i guess 90kg in depths of winter with 5mm wetty an hood and boots) and ride a Fanatic 95 (5'4 x 26) ...but looking for a new board...i was looking at a fanatic /duotone 85 (5'1 x 24.5") but im now curious if im missing something with these narrow DW inspired type boards
note i have no interest in sup foiling or DW - i just want to wing in waves..i already have lots of Sup surf boards etc), and im very sceptical about the application of these 8ft DW boards for winging (only) unless you leave in 5kts areas.
So Burchas - do you find the 72 l Omen big enough....as your alround board?
Are you saying that a 85 litre 5'1 x 25" board, has essentially the same stability and float (even in waves and chop) as a 75l 5'10 x 22 inch board??
Here in the UK there was a big trend a couple of years ago to go small and under body weight (kg - litres) in volume but the last 12 mths i think people are going back to body weight +/- 5 or so, as we get gusty winds and often very light on the inside / between waves etc....it is definatley not like maui or West oz trade winds ....its too inconsistent and cold to ride sinkers!So given this, and say winging in 12-30 kts, what size omen d you suggest...still the 72 or would 84 be a safer bet?
Cheers for the feedback!
Might help, I moved from Fanatic 95 to Fanatic 75l, (92kg wet). Took a while to get used to stink bug and get going earlier than I expected. Big downside is if wind drops to a few knots so no chance of flying and having to pump wing to keep forward motion it is very tiring to keep fore/aft balance standing and even on knees. Side-to side is OK so maybe a long narrow board would be better giving stability where it is needed.
Hi, the flux seems to be marketed as a wave board, is it a a good choice for inland lake flat water foiling with it's sleek design and early lift off? Can you use a double back footstrap so you have a symmetrical setup?
Nice Handle MrPieMan!
All Omen gear is designed with wave riding performance as the objective. That being said, the attributes that made the boards good for freeride wave also lend well to the lake - I had a few windy days at a lake on Northern Vancouver Island without waves and had a blast ripping around on the 40L and 60L.
Like you mentioned having a really efficient hull design makes getting on foil easy. The wide tail provides lift when the board is submerged bringing it up to the surface of the water with minimal power. Once on the surface its hull moves efficiently through the transition between displacement and semi-planning to get a smaller faster foil up with the minimal effort. The touch down performance and rail clearance are also really nice for messing around with carving tacks and other flatwater moves.
I haven't tried using two straps in the back, also an option to use stick on inserts for a center strap:
www.mackiteboarding.com/nsi-surface-mount-insert-plates-set-of-2/
Most of our riders are loving the asymmetrical inserts since it the resulting offset stance proves better control and authority while they are waveriding or jumping and clear deck space to ride back upwind strapless.
