Let's go! My daily 60 and the new 60 L side by side, and for an added dramatic effect, the second picture makes the new one seem even smaller than it actually is.
man they are seriously light.
and they look a lot smaller compared to last model
PS
any repairs in that marble area is going to be a right PITA to look okay cosmetically...not a fan (i think)
Select to expand quoteMikedubs said..
Looks like an f one midlength
from the top - agreed! but it looks like the bottom of the new Super K has much wider beveled sides and consequently a smaller flat surface in the middle. the f-one has smaller bevels.
I wonder about the thickness. The Mackites review said the 95L is 5.75 inches thick (6 foot 2 inches long, 20 wide, and 5.5kg). The 95L Super K is an inch longer and 0.7 inches wider, so I'm guessing it's also a half inch thinner or thereabouts?The key difference here is most likely the weight. The regular Carbon Super K2 is 5.7kg, but the Pro version is a mere 4.9 kilos, which is honestly impressive and almost at the weight of those expensive custom boards made in Europe that are commonly seen on the race courses.
Select to expand quoteNiichts said..Mikedubs said..
Looks like an f one midlength
from the top - agreed! but it looks like the bottom of the new Super K has much wider beveled sides and consequently a smaller flat surface in the middle. the f-one has smaller bevels.
I wonder about the thickness. The Mackites review said the 95L is 5.75 inches thick (6 foot 2 inches long, 20 wide, and 5.5kg). The 95L Super K is an inch longer and 0.7 inches wider, so I'm guessing it's also a half inch thinner or thereabouts?The key difference here is most likely the weight. The regular Carbon Super K2 is 5.7kg, but the Pro version is a mere 4.9 kilos, which is honestly impressive and almost at the weight of those expensive custom boards made in Europe that are commonly seen on the race courses.
The one in the picture seems like the pro version, see the full sandwich sticker.
What a strange wind we had. 2-9 m/s, so I took a big 5.9 m2 wing, a bigger 790 cm2 front wing, and 60 L Super K, and it was actually pretty fun. I did not feel any difference in stability compared to the 1st gen 60 L, so I am not sure what all the reviews are raving about having to size up, but maybe I am just used to the small boards. Very reactive, as was the 1st gen. Definitely a nice and super balanced feel.
Filmed a friend learning tacks, so there is not much else interesting. First day without the gloves, finally : )
Select to expand quoteVenturaShaper said..
I have a hard time paying that much for a board, might just be me.
It's not just you. The cost of materials to built a board like that in the US is $600.
Select to expand quoteTaavi said..
Let's go! My daily 60 and the new 60 L side by side, and for an added dramatic effect, the second picture makes the new one seem even smaller than it actually is.
looks like the foot straps are further forward from the tail than V1, good thing on the rear strap, not so sure about the front ones though.
Select to expand quoteTaavi said..
What a strange wind we had. 2-9 m/s, so I took a big 5.9 m2 wing, a bigger 790 cm2 front wing, and 60 L Super K, and it was actually pretty fun. I did not feel any difference in stability compared to the 1st gen 60 L, so I am not sure what all the reviews are raving about having to size up, but maybe I am just used to the small boards. Very reactive, as was the 1st gen. Definitely a nice and super balanced feel.
Filmed a friend learning tacks, so there is not much else interesting. First day without the gloves, finally : )
The lake you're on looks really nice - good to hear you don't find any difference in stability compared to Gen 1.
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looks like the foot straps are further forward from the tail than V1, good thing on the rear strap, not so sure about the front ones though.
Indeed. Good eye. I have never used foot straps with any of the sizes of Super K, but I never ended standing further forward than what the front straps would have allowed (with gen 1). The way the gen 1 shape interacts with the water, it just feels logical and well balanced to stand a bit further back on gen 1.
Now with the gen 2 I noticed I can freely stand a bit further forward on the board, and it does not affect how the board gets going or how it feels while riding or during the touchdowns. So, again, if I would use the straps with gen 2 I would easily find a way to set it up.
Below is a comparison of 54 L Ginxu (with my preferred foot straps setting) and Super K 60 L.
Did any one try the V1 and V2 80L (or any other size) back to back. I am interested in the low end of the boards and the added thickness of the V2 since it's shorter and smaller than the V1. Thanks
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Did any one try the V1 and V2 80L (or any other size) back to back. I am interested in the low end of the boards and the added thickness of the V2 since it's shorter and smaller than the V1. Thanks
Not exactly the comparison you're looking for, but here we go. Last winter and summer I rode a 70L and 85L KT custom in the shape of the SK1. In November I switched to KT custom 68 and 83L in the shape of the new SK2. Measurements are near identical to the 70 and 80L production SK2. I have also ridden the 70L and 80L SK2 production boards, each for a couple of days. Having winged about 9 months on the older boards and now 6 months on the new shape here is my conclusion:
1. to me, the new boards feel more stable than the old ones. Take the 70L, it is 1 inch narrower than the SK1 70L (19.5 vs 20.5 inches). The Mackite review says that the new 70L board is 3 inches narrower vs 22.5 inches for the old board (at some point they also say it is 2 inches narrower). Reality is that the new board is 1 inch narrower. The old shape w the round bottom in the nose felt "roly" to mer, the new board with the flatter bottom feels more stable to me. I'm 6'3", 190lbs and not the most talented, so i'm very sensitive to lack of stability. The new shape has a narrower nose and it is a touch easier to sink the nose compared to the SK1.
2. the SK2 comes up earlier than last year's, I'd say comparable to last year's Dragonfly. My 83L with a 790 frontwing and a 5.5m wing gets me up in 11-12mph, which for me is Dragonfly territory (I've ridden the 100L for a year and feel comfortable saying this). Pls keep in mind that I'm 86kg, so an 80L board barely floats me as long as i have a bit of pressure in the wing.
3. the board performs a "magic trick". It is so well balanced that once on foil, the board seems to vanish, even at 80L. Any unintended touchdowns are no problem, the new rails/bottom just glance off the water. Where i used to crash the older board now it just bounces off the water (i ride without footstraps). I don't know if it's the new deckshape or what, but it just rides like a smaller board. With the narrower board i can carve really hard on a wave and don't have to worry about the rail touching the water
4. the production boards felt incredibly stiff (I rode the 80L in Carbon and the 70L in Pro construction) which definitely helps with the earlier takeoff.
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There you have it, these are my subjective impressions. Admittedly, I ride a 68L as "daily driver", so my perception of stability could be influenced by having gotten used to a smaller board and feeling relaxed and comfortable when i get on the 80L. I hope it is helpful nevertheless. To me, 1 inch less width and a flatter bottom make for a more stable, earlier foiling and more forgiving to touchdown board that is a dream to ride. As long as you don't try to ride in less than 10mph wind, the 80L is a one board solution. Btw, where i rode in Maui, a lot of parawingers also tried the new SK2 80L and were amazed by how well the board performed (stable enough and super early takeoff).
Select to expand quoteDWF said..VenturaShaper said..
I have a hard time paying that much for a board, might just be me.
It's not just you. The cost of materials to built a board like that in the US is $600.
No way. Do you know the amount of work required for a full sandwich construction?
I had many full sandwich customs for windsurfing, and the weight and durability were outstanding.
Let's see how these boards hold up; my last dragonfly was far from ideal in durability.
